Crown Point, IN
Lemon Lake County Park - Silver Share
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Hole #10 Silver Tee



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A Fraggle Party

1    11/15/2010   10/20/2012
Review By: Martin Dewgarita
Played: 1048  Reviewed: 93  Exp: 3.6 Years
4 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Personal rank: 110
Just because this course comes in at last place of my favorites list doesn't mean it's not a great course. Dual layouts offer a variety of challenges and an opportunity to play multiple times through without repeating the same holes. The course offers a great variety of technical shots utilizing heavily wooded areas, open fields, and decent elevation. The complex is an added bonus, with 3 other great courses on site, Lemon lake in my top 5 destination complexes.

I highly recommend this area for people traveling through or someone looking for a great disc golf destination area. I know I'll be making a point to stop by and play another round when I'm in the area.
Other Thoughts: After playing 1000 courses, I'm excited to share my opinion on some of my favorites. My top 100+ list can be found on my blog, my favorites list is at 110 of 1020 courses played as of writing this review. Of all courses played, the top 1.5% receive a rating of 5, down to 6% is a 4.5, and 15% is a 4.0 creating a bell curve distribution. I apologize that my reviews are not as detailed as they have been previously. I have included the details as to why this course stands out to the best that my memory serves.

My personal criteria is very subjective, a gut feeling:
~Physical beauty stands out, both scenery and the beauty of each hole.
~Amenities don't mean much to me, it doesn't much matter if there's benches, concrete tee pads, or garbage cans.
~Technical design - How well designed are the fairways/airways and landing areas? Are there unique holes that stand out? Variety of holes - distances, shapes, elevation, tree density, rough thickness. Pars 4 and 5?
~I love extreme/adventure golf. Rugged and secluded courses stand out more than park style courses. In general I prefer more technical over more open.
~Local Scene. If I was involved in a tournament or league or met up with some locals and played the course multiple times I appreciate different aspects of a course.

Thank you, enjoy my reviews and if you don't find this information helpful, please let me know what I can do to improve.

4 of 7 people found this review helpful.

2 courses in 1. Gold/Silver TOUGH

5+    10/10/2010   7/10/2011
Review By: #19325
Played: 299  Reviewed: 156  Exp: 12 Years
8 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The Silver/Gold course is much different than the other 3 courses. The land is heavily wooded with some nice rolling terrain. Some areas have drastic drop offs. Several of the open holes have high prarie grass. The rough is much thicker and this is by far the toughest and longest course on the property.

There is a nice flow to this course. Each hole is fairly secluded and there are no major conflicts.

The baskets are in great condition. They are factory yellow Innova Discatchers. The last time I played several holes had a 2nd basket.

There is a wide variety of shots and lines on this course. Every hole has 2 concrete tee pads and some holes have multiple pin positions.

The tee signs are rather basic. They are huge logs engraved with the hole # and distance. They have gold paint for the long and silver paint for the short.

Once you find hole #1 with the use of the maps on this site navigation is not a problem.

This is a professional calibur course. It plays approximately 6,500 to 8,500 feet depending on what layout you play. A score of 61.79 was a 1000 rated round at pro worlds on the toughest layout. The silver layout is much easier and more beginner friendly. You will throw every shot and disc in your bag.

There are quite a few memorable holes and greens on this course.
Cons: Finding hole #1 can be difficult if you don't have a map.

Standing water and mud can be an issue after rain. Hole #11 can be flooded ankle deep at times. There is no way around it to get to the next hole.

Although the tee signs are adequate they are nothing special. There are no hole descriptions.

Although the tee pads are concrete they are a little short and some are not flat to the ground and don't allow run ups from behind. This can be an issue on this brutally long course.

This is the least beginner friendly course on the property.
Other Thoughts: This is a pay to play facility.

If you are not familar with poison ivy there is some at this facility. Educate yourself and take precautions if you are allergic.

The 2010 Pro Worlds did wonders for this facility. 4 courses with a ton of options. There are plans for a 5th course.

The Homie event every October is a must play midwest event. Great atmosphere and always a ton of people.

Here are the results of Pro Worlds. You can get an idea of how the best players in the world scored on this course.
http://www.pdga.com/course_ratings/15193

8 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 Expert

2-4    3/5/2011   3/16/2011
Review By: GoodDriveBadPutt
Played: 351  Reviewed: 279  Exp: 9.8 Years
13 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - Course is set in a large section of the entire complex, the occasional (dog) walker is probably the only non-DGer out there. Some of the holes are kind of close to each other, but overall it is pretty well secluded.
- First thing of note; this course is extremely, extremely different depending on how the holes are played. With gold/silver tees on almost every hole, and some gold/silver baskets on other holes, playing the gold-to-gold, or silver-to-silver, or anything in between, will be a drastically different round. This review will be for the gold-to-gold configuration, as that is the most noteworthy.
- Pretty much broken into three different sections; the deep forest with a great mix of skinny and mature trees, medium forest with clear fairways but deep rough, and open areas with various trees and shrubbery. Good mix all around, as you go into the deep forest, into the open areas, back into the deep forest. Good variety, including shooting out of and into the forest; both for drives and some approaches.
- Parts of the course have pretty significant elevation changes, especially in the forested areas. Some good elevated teepads, starting with #1, downward sloping fairways like #3, mild uphill shots like #13, and lots in between. A few spots have real roll-away potential, like almost all of #14, fairway to basket. The holes within the forest usually have some dangerous areas to avoid, like a creekbed and just straight-up rugged terrain.
- Simply awesome variety of lines to be found here, with the different areas of forest, elevation changes, and multi-shot holes. Each hole is pretty different from any other, with the exception of some similar straight shots. Mega hyzers, long, low hyzers, uphill anhyzers, a few obvious places for flex shots, some longer uphill shots that finish left or right into the forest, it is a lot to get into. In short, almost every shot to be found here, regardless of arm.
- Course has absolutely no shortage in length, especially from the golds. While the 850' and 1100' hole definitely skew the average hole length, it is still a fairly long course. Including all 18, it averages out to 461' per hole. Taking out the two long ones, the 16 remaining holes still average 396'!
- Water comes in play on only one hole, but is both scenic and potentially dangerous (in a good way). It sits at the bottom of a downhill shot, through the woods, where you need to do a 90 degree turn before the lake. Bigger arms can definitely reach it if the disc decides not to hyzer (RHBH).
- Great baskets, good signage (tee signs are pretty, say hole number and length[s]), decent teepads (some are in bad shape). Some benches and stuff here and there, nice to take a break at least once.
Cons: - Some parts of the course are still very rugged, with dirt steps that turn to mud, and some places where crossing the creekbed takes a little creativity. Hopefully still a work in progress.
- A lot of the holes really just need a straight shot in some form or another. There is great punishment for failing to do so, like rollaways and deep rough (and some nasty, nasty schule in the open holes), but the line itself is kind of bland. This is true for the bombers, some ace runs, and a few in between.
- This is nit-picking, but the course definitely lacks any large elevation changes. No huge downhill bomber to add some fun/flavor to the set-up, just because of the terrain.
Other Thoughts: - Just an all around fantastic course. Definitely championship level, with some extremely tough holes, some punishing "easy" holes, and a great variety of different looks. No matter how big an arm, or how accurate, both will be tested to the max. Fantastic variety of lines, constant, though mild, elevation changes, some tricky greens, nearly every hole has something to make it challenging.
- Beginners should stay far away from this course, play the red or white. Everyone else should be challenged in a big way, from rec players to top pros. If you aren't able to get the few deuce-able holes, it is impossible to score well here.

13 of 13 people found this review helpful.

 

1    6/22/2010   11/14/2010
Review By: bjreagh
Played: 212  Reviewed: 206  Exp: 16.7 Years
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The Silver/Gold course is the hardest and longest of the courses at Lemon Lake. The Silver and Gold courses play over the same layout with Gold being a longer version of the Silver. Often times the Gold tees drastically changed the angle to the hole adding difficulty as well as length. Holes either have 2 tees, 2 baskets, or both to provide several combinations of difficulty. (It is possible that the course may have 2 tees and 2 baskets on every hole when fully completed.) The "tee signs" were a nice touch as they were not the traditional signs you find on the rest of the course, but were half logs with the hole number and distance for both gold and silver etched into the wood.

This course has a good mix of wooded holes with clearcut yet challenging fairways and several longer open holes with fairways protected by tall thick rough. The wooded holes also utilized a decent amount of elevation and several holes had deep ravines just off the fairway. The open holes are really long and will appeal to those with the big arms.

The courses were just used for 2010 Worlds so everything should still be in great shape. The baskets are one of the coolest features in this complex as they match the color of the name of the course. This also helps you to locate the courses better when you enter the park, and it helps to spot the correct basket as the courses border each other in many places. (Imagine if the park just had 90 yellow baskets!)
Cons: There is not a parking area for this course and you have to walk a decent distance to #1 and after #18. (The 2nd parking lot by the restrooms is the closest.) Hole #1 is a little tricky to find as well, since you have to cross over the Blue Course to get there.

In some ways it was cool to have 2 sets of baskets permanently installed and color coded, but in some ways it was distracting. There were also some holes that only had 1 but no designation on the tee, so not knowing if a basket was there or not could be a factor the first time playing it.

A lot of places still had that "course just installed" look as it is the newest of the courses here, but time should help it mature. (This course needed some finishing touches and was missing some concrete tees and baskets, but I assume the course was completed for 2010 Worlds.)
Other Thoughts: Obviously having 4+ courses in one spot is a huge bonus, especially when they are all good courses. I like that each course has its own personality and degree of difficulty. (Ranking: easiest-White- Red-Blue-Silver/Gold-hardest) The Silver/Gold Course is the most difficult of the 4 courses at Lemon Lake. It will definitely take a lot out of you, but it is not impossible to play. I personal prefer the Blue and Red Courses over this one, but those looking for a huge challenge may enjoy this one the most.

There is a vehicle entrance fee, but the gatehouse was not always manned. Also, the park workers are extremely friendly and obviously take pride in their disc golf courses.

We had the chance to play these courses as they were making final preparations for the 2010 Worlds. I am sure the courses are in even better shape now since that event has past.

6 of 6 people found this review helpful.

 Silver and Gold

5+    9/24/2010   9/26/2010
Review By: Jukeshoe
Played: 162  Reviewed: 136  Exp: 3.7 Years
This review was updated on 2/23/2011
10 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: - Lemon Lake's Silver and Gold courses share fairways and often baskets. Gold is championship-caliber, while Silver allows mere mortals to play along with shorter, easier tee (and occasionally, basket) layouts.
- The Gold course challenges all aspects of a discer's game and requires distance driving, precision on approaches, careful putting, and the ability to recover from thick schule in order to score well. This course starts off with shorter wooded holes before opening up into a mostly flat field covered in thick prairie. Once into the open, the holes become much longer in length with one topping 1100 ft. After several in this style, the course again enters the woods and finishes much in the manner it began, with 18 ending near the beginning.
- Silver tees simplify matters greatly but still provide a decent challenge for less-experienced players. Many holes are shortened significantly, providing several ace runs, and often give a straight look whereas the Gold tee might be blind. On most holes, silver tees play to the Gold basket, but several holes also contain a Silver basket. Baskets are extremely easy to distinguish, as they are boldly covered in metallic spray paint of the corresponding color. On holes where a Silver basket appears, Silver tees play to the Silver basket, Gold tees to the Gold basket.
- Brushed, level, grippy new concrete tees on all but one or two pads, where above-average brick was used instead. Most concrete tees are trapezoidal in shape and absolutely top-notch, others are square and slightly shorter but still sufficient.
- Dual pin positions for both Gold and Silver baskets keep things fresh.
- Excellent signage throughout, once you actually find the semi-hidden #1. Next tee signage is everywhere and greatly alleviates a somewhat awkward flow in a few places. Rustic tee-signs made of large logs add charm while providing the hole number and each pin position's distance in either silver or gold.
- Moderate elevation comes into play and is used to great effect. Pin positions near slopes provide risk on several holes. Several doglegs ascend or descend through woods. A couple of holes feature miniature "gorges" that offer the potential for trouble on errant shots.
- Stairs, earthen steps cut into slopes, bridges, mulch, and gravel implemented throughout as needed. Mulch and gravel used sparingly and effectively.
- Great amenities: bathrooms, drinks, water fountain, pavilions, tennis courts, etc. on site. Several holes have brooms for the tees. Benches and trashcans throughout.
- Isolated and pristine natural setting.
Cons: - Although the wooded holes are cleared out fairly well, holes 8 - 12 have rough consisting of super-dense prairie and/or scrubby, brushy woodland. The prairie is largely composed of goldenrod, thorns, nettles, and poison ivy. Some trails are worn in, but finding discs off the fairway proves to be a major hassle. In fact, a large part of the risk on these longer holes is that of the rough swallowing a disc.
- A bit of a challenge to find initially.
Other Thoughts: - Located on the same property as three other outstanding courses: Blue/White/Red. The first tee is located near Blue's #13. Park at the 2nd lot, pass Blue's #12 tee, and cross the bridge.
- $4 local, $7 out-of-county pay-to-play. Certainly reasonable for the quality and quantity of disc golf available on-site.
- My rating reflects not only the solid Silver course, but also takes into account the outstanding Gold layout.

10 of 11 people found this review helpful.

 Get Ready for A Beatdown

2-4    2/19/2011   9/23/2010
Review By: ArcheType
Played: 33  Reviewed: 25  Exp: 3.1 Years
This review was updated on 2/21/2011
4 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: -This course is in the LL complex, so the fairways are well maintained and groomed.

-These tee pads were nice as well.

-This course has the most shot variety I've ever played. You'll need your entire bag of tricks for this one.

-Almost none of the holes felt the same. 8 and 9 are similar, but not exactly the same.

-The different sets of tees and pins make the holes feel very different. Also, the use of dga and innova baskets to distinguish the different pin positions is a wonderful idea.

-Risk/Reward is the name of this course.

Update: after playing this course from the silver tees, and as a better I have a few more things to add.

-This course has several holes that offer a good multiple routes, not just forcing you to a single type of shot.

-There are no "gimme" holes in this course at all.

-Some very legitimate par 4s from gold tees.
Cons: -The tee "signs" were just numbers and distances cut into a log, nothing fantastic.

-Some holes are hard to navigate, they could use more "Next Tee ->" signs.

-The longer holes, 8 and 9 in particular, were very boring. The 1000+ft straight fairway just felt like a driving range. It was a drag. Seeing the same type of fairway immediately next on hole 9 bored some people in my group to just chuck rollers for fun.
Other Thoughts: This course, while beating me down, really gave me something to aspire to. I felt awe at the pros who actually shot well on this course, and it really inspired me to get more practice.

Also, check my "Other Thoughts" in my review of read to see the order I recommend playing the courses in if you choose to hit them all in a day.

4 of 7 people found this review helpful.

 

1    9/17/2010   9/21/2010
Review By: tistoude
Played: 162  Reviewed: 61  Exp: 4.9 Years
8 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: First off this course is located in a beautiful little park that has 4 courses on the property. There is a nice fishing lake, very nice bathroom facilities, huge playground, sand volleball, basket ball courts, walking paths and a bunch of nice pavilions.

This course has a wide variety of hole types, narrow turning wooded, wide open, right turning, left turning, uphill, down hill, strategic multiple shot, and grip it and rip it. Each hole has a very clearly defined fairway and there were no Poke and Hope holes.

Since there is such variety in the holes you end up being forced to use alot of different shots. Power helps alot on this course but you will still need touch shots, flicks and Backhands and a few overhands. Almost every hole requires some shot shaping.

Pin Placements. The pins are placed very well, often on slopes and tucked into trees. The placements enhance the layout tremendously.

Well maintained. This course was immaculate. There was no litter, very little debris (sticks ect..), the grass was well trimmed and Baskets/Tees were in perfect condition.

Navigation once on the course is easy. Without a map I had no problem finding the next hole. there is a very natural progression to the course.

Woods Holes. This course has some beautiful woods holes. They are aestically pleasing and you are able to see that a tremendous amount of work went into clearing, drainage, and steps. The wooded holes really stand apart on this course.
Cons: Finding the first hole! Unlike the other courses on location Silver/Gold does not play in nine hole loops and does not start near the parking lot. We did not have anyone to ask where the course began and only found it because we played the blue course first which plays near the first hole. Hint: Gold/Silver starts near Blue 13's basket.

Holes 7 through 11 seem to be just a long drive contest. The pins are still placed well but the holes themselves are not as interesting. 10 and 11 play down a pipe "right of way" or something like that and are very bland. These of course are personal opinions. Some people might really like this stretch of holes.

The tee signs are very neat, carved logs with hole number and distance, but I would like to see a little more detail on the hole since on quite a few of the holes you cannot see the basket from the tee.
Other Thoughts: This is a great course. I played Gold while my wife played Silver. We had already played Red and Blue earlier so needless to say this course wiped us out. It is long! be prepared for a bit of a hike.

SIlver is a good course for moderate to experienced golfers but the gold course is really for experienced to expert players.

This is definitely a Disc Golf destination park. With 4 courses on location you can really get your fill. It cost us 4 dollars to enter the park but I feel that we got way more than our money's worth.

8 of 9 people found this review helpful.

 Gold layout is fantastic!

1    9/9/2010   9/10/2010
Review By: gdub58
Played: 76  Reviewed: 7  Exp: 4.7 Years
7 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course was in tremendous condition, with new tee pads and baskets, well-groomed fairways, and plenty of trash cans and places to sit.
The length here (and there's a lot of it) was integrated well into the design - except for a couple of holes it didn't seem to be there just for the sake of adding distance. Even on the 1120' #8, while the first 800' is "grip and rip", it finishes with an interesting and well-protected pin. Virtually every hole here would be a stand-out on most courses.
This course demands and rewards accuracy, but the lines are clearly defined and there are virtually no random trees that would get in the way of a good tee shot.
There's a lot of elevation changes, and the holes are well balanced between up/down and left/right shots.
Cons: Navigation was really difficult in some places, starting with just trying to find the first tee. My biggest issue was with the scorecard, especially where it shows hole #1 and that it has #16 as a dogleg right when it is actually a severe dogleg left. Also, while there were "next tee" signs on most holes, in a couple of cases they were not clear (good luck finding #6 tee!)
The rough is deep and there are many places where finding a disc would be extremely difficult if you are off the fairway. This is true even on the open holes and I would suggest having a spotter on several of them.

Other Thoughts: I played the gold tees/pins, which plays over 8,900'. Pro Worlds was here recently, and there was clearly a ton of work put into this course. The locals who put their time into this should be recognized for their efforts - I certainly appreciated it.
There were some long walks between holes, although on a course this big that shouldn't be a surprise.

Overall, this is a course I would definitely play again (especially since I know my way around it now!) and qualifies as a destination course. And, with three other courses in the park I would definitely recommend a trip here.

7 of 7 people found this review helpful.

 Challenging course that will grow...

1    6/25/2010   7/22/2010
Review By: ZMan44
Played: 125  Reviewed: 102  Exp: 9.1 Years
10 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The Silver Course at Lemon Lake is a championship caliber challenge. There are significant elevation challenges. Shot-shaping is important at this course. (as with all the Lemon Lake courses) The land is exceptionally used. There are a wide variety of lengths of holes. There are some that can definitely be birdied by the average player. There are some that definitely cannot be birdied by the average player. The wooded holes showed a great deal of promise. As the course grows in, these holes will mature and this may be one of the best courses in Indiana at that point. The amenities were fantastic including the baskets.
Cons: Since I have to rate the course as I played it, the current state is extremely rough around the edges. I had hoped that it would be in immaculate condition given that Worlds was approaching so quickly. While the other 3 courses seemd ready for play, this course looked like it had been planted within the last month and was requiring extra attention of the parks department. There were a few of the open holes that seemed to be long for the sole purpose of having a long hole. Sure, I don't throw that far, but even with my arm I didn't find these holes to be challenging. I pretty much looked out from the tee and said "I am getting a 4 on this hole"...and I did. That kind of hole takes a lot of the fun factor away for me. There were a lot of places were the rough and undergrowth was still very thick. It could be cleaned up and still punish errant throws. There were a few places were the terrain was difficult to navigate, but I assume that as this course grows, bridges and steps will be built.
Other Thoughts: It may seem like I am being hard on this course. Maybe I am, but this is my review and my opinion. I find no fault with someone who gives this course a rave review. It is challenging and I firmly believe that it has the potential to be an elite level course. The Silver course definitely has a home at Lemon Lake as it is the most challenging layout by far. It is definitely worth playing if you are in the area. I graded it the way I did because of its state on the day that I played. It is a good course. I plan to play these courses again in the future and I can see myself raising my grade for this course by as much as a disc given the maturity of the course from now until then.

Just a tip for those who don't pay attention or haven't printed a map. Park at the second parking lot. Go over the covered bridge across the main park road. This course begins very close to one of the holes on the Blue course.

10 of 10 people found this review helpful.

 Bring a Meal When You Play

1    6/11/2009   12/23/2009
Review By: gkeberhart
Played: 36  Reviewed: 31  Exp: 4.7 Years
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Lots of wooded holes and challenging shots. didnt feel like a course where you could count on a lot of easy birides. made you work for your par and left you feeling satisfied when you got it. wasnt a quick one to play so you felt like you really played a round after the hike was complete. makes for a great course to settle the decision of who will win the day after playing the other three courses. the better players will shine on this course.
Cons: some of the holes felt repetative and alternate tees just seemed to be the same shots just different distances. a few holes were obnoxiously long and one followed the other. the course was still in the stages of being fully cleared out when i played (or that is what i think) so there were some stumps that could trip you up.
Other Thoughts: the scenery was never the same, and the holes were nothing short of interesting to play. I love the sign that tells you not to start the course after a certain time of day. plan to stop and have a small meal during the round, it is a nice hike. this is the only course at Lemon Lake that i have not shot par or better at and since i have only played it once i am hoping there is a good chance to change that.

6 of 6 people found this review helpful.

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