Whitmore Lake, MI 
Independence Lake - Red Hawk Share
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 Tee off here ASAP

5+    7/14/2012   7/21/2012
Review By: BearClaw
Played: 33  Reviewed: 7
This review was updated on 8/1/2012
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: * Long, medium and short tees for 1-18
* Concrete tees for long/medium grass tees for short fpr 1-18
*Color print out map on tee sign for every hole at long/medium tees
*Tee signs include elevation height and warn to send spotter when needed opn 1-18
* Long/Medium tee signs have a broom at every tee
* Near Whitmore Lake but situated in a large park amongst farms, feels isolated, but its not
*Only $25 in county for a year pass that also works at another top notch Washtenaw Co course, Rolling Hills.
* Even if you don't have the year pass when the weather is not conductive to people using the beach they will often not charge for park entrance (This is most common in fall, winter, and early spring when the picnic course will be open across the parking lot as well)
*Great mix of wooded and open holes
* Course is on a relatively flat piece of land but makes superb use of the available elevation changes
* beautiful, large, old trees
* 6 newly added extension holes with short/long crushed limestone tee pads are situated so that they can be played after hole 4 or after hole 12 giving you not one but two chances to play them in the middle of your round (I like to play the extensions twice here
*Extremely well maintained
* There are hiking trails through the course but this is one of my favorite courses so I play it often and have never once seen a hiker out there.
* The only time the course is crowded with discers tends to be on league day which at the time of this writing is Saturday
* Lake with a beach in the park, sometimes with lifeguard and a splash zone.
*Bathrooms by beach
*dedicated disc golf parking lot
*picnic tables on course
*NO boring or repetitive or uninspired holes
*Short tees are relatively easy while long tees are highly challenging and from different angles
Cons: *biting flies in the summer
*there were drainage issues last year on some of the holes that are under construction right now (with the drought they probably would have been fine this year but have been boggy during wet weather last year)
*holes 13-16 under construction until nov 2012
*5/9$ for in/out of county cars (but you can also use your day pass to play Rolling Hills)
Other Thoughts: Even though 13-16 are down for now with the 6 new extensions there are 20 AWESOME holes that you can play now. If you forget to download a map there is one on the bulletin board by the long tee for hole #1.

5 of 5 people found this review helpful.

It really is that good...

5+    6/26/2011   6/27/2011
Review By: BogeyNoMore
Played: 204  Reviewed: 138  Exp: 12 Years
This review was updated on 12/6/2014
8 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Probably my favorite course in the area. Isolated from (but still close to) other park activities. Scenic and secluded, it's like taking a nature walk while playing a round. Course is well designed, well executed and well maintained. Whatever "it" is, they got it right:
Great mix of straight, left and right fairways with plenty of subtle to significant elevation changes coming into play throughout the course. Well placed guard trees force tight lines, deflecting drives and slapping down upshots. Tight fairways to challenge your control, with others playing in fields that give you several open lines, but force you to hit the fairway or risk losing a disc. Shot variety and lines required give you an opportunity to use all your plastic, as well as all your skill. Many visually appealing holes, all of which grab and maintain your interest. Nothing boring or repetitive. Wonderful balance of challenge and playbility.
On most holes, the Pro/Am cement pads are distinguished by more than just distance. With very few exceptions, the Pros require far more control over quite considerable distances. Red tees (not concrete) provide easier looks for less skilled players - but this is no beginner course.
Most informative signage I've ever seen. Simple, yet highly effective and cost efficient - easily replaced or broken/defaced. Full color print of hole layout w/distance, showing all tea areas, and total elevation change from tee to basket (+ or -). It's nice to know how much terrain gives or takes on your drive. The tee posts even have a place put scorecards even a while jotting scores from the previous hole.
Cement tee pads for Pro/Am, and all orang DGA baskets are easy to spot and in great shape. Trash cans located throughout, with Recycling bins in parking area. Picnic tables/benches located in several shady areas. Clean Porta-Potty with hand sanitizer in parking area. And if you really need a restroom with running water, one's available across the way at the water park.
Hole 6 is blind due to elevation, but has a flag so you could see your target from the tee.
Several aesthetically appealing means to avoid any possible confusion are employed to show the way: logs lining paths, manicured path of wood chips, mowed paths to next tee pad, "Next Tee" signs. Throw in tall, easy to spot tee posts and navigation's a snap.
Recent improvements include 6 new holes (A-F) in a loop of the original 18with which you can elect to play after hole 3 or after hole 12 based on the pace of the group in front of you and the terraformed fairway on 16. Retaining wall to combat erosion between holes 13 and 16 was added Nov 2014.
Only 8 miles or so from Hudson Mills,
Cons: $9/car for out-of-county residents, (not enforced at all during fall and winter)
Really no wide open holes you could let rip without concern for disc loss - even the open fairways have 3 feet of grass lining them.
The rough really is (and can be thorny)=high risk of disc loss... but that seems to come with the "Championship Caliber" package. If you wanna run with the big dogs, sometimes you get bit.
Still hurts from kicking myself for not having played here sooner!
Other Thoughts: One of the best courses I've played anywhere. In terms of course grooming and overall appearance, Red Hawk set a high standard for a pleasant day's discing. The only thing Hudson Mills had up on Red Hawk was convenient location of the Activity Center, with it's snack bar, dining area and restrooms.
What Red Hawk concedes to some of the best very best courses in terms of sheer challenge, it makes up for in playability.

BRING FRIENDS!!! Non-Resident Admission to Washtenaw County Parks is steep ($9/car), but the course is immaculate; split 3-4 ways, it's not so painful. Bonus: play Rolling Hills (another great course) the same day with your park admission.

8 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 Established and SOLID

2-4    11/9/2010   11/10/2010
Review By: deezler
Played: 15  Reviewed: 4  Exp: 16 Years
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: This course is now fully planned, developed, installed and DONE (ok so they still need to finish the signs for the white tees, whatev). Concrete tees on all 18 holes, great and spacious course design in a beautiful natural area. Joins the ranks of Southeast Michigan's BEST courses, easily. Clean course with a surplus of trash cans, and some benches. If you litter on this course, you are an idiot.
Cons: Hmmmm, cons? I dunno, right now I am loving this course. Lots of areas of rough are straight up thorns, ouch.
Other Thoughts: Don't come play here. Keep it quiet, empty and available for me. haha.

There is room to expand the course... 6 extra holes would be tasty.

1 of 3 people found this review helpful.


5+    7/16/2010   7/16/2010
Review By: mcphatty
Played: 40  Reviewed: 5  Exp: 12.1 Years
This review was updated on 8/19/2010
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - Favors forearm shots, but has a nice variety of every shot type
- Usaully free to play
- Not too crowded
Cons: - Course changes often, which can be confusing.
- While the course is usually free, its expensive when the park booth is staffed. $5 for residents of washtenaw county, $9 for everyone else.
- Tees can be hard to find if you're not familiar with the course.
Other Thoughts: One of my favorite courses in the area. Its challenging enough for some good competition between players, but not so hard that you're sent home crying. The 6th hole is a blind water shot, so keep your discs to the right or use a spotter and you should be okay.

2 of 2 people found this review helpful.

 Decent course, Great under the right conditions.

5+    7/18/2010   7/8/2010
Review By: AKormendi
Played: 65  Reviewed: 27  Exp: 17.7 Years
This review was updated on 10/3/2010
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: Challenging shots, lots of finesse shots and big hooks. Well marked tees. Easy to find your way around. Lots of neat wildlife to observe. I watched some frogs and garter snakes today.
Cons: Rough roughs, and insects are bad when it's been hot and wet. No running water on site.
Other Thoughts: Great quiet course with just a touch of elevation changes. Well maintained, and well respected.

1 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 very nice park

1    6/10/2010   6/18/2010
Review By: discNDav
Played: 331  Reviewed: 69  Exp: 30 Years
This review was updated on 7/8/2010
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Two tees per hole were very easy to find. The overall design was excellent with alot of different type of shots required. Water comes into play (rather surprisingly, thanks for the heads up marked on the tees!).

None of the holes were on top of each other, very spreadout course which lessons the interference from other holes/golfers.

Benches and/or picnics tables were near the tees every few holes.

Very close to another great DG destination, Hudson Mills.The park entrance fee keeps the 'riff raft" out. Just minutes from highway 23.

Very clean and maintained course, the cut grass and carved fairways along with the tall grass in spots really made it feel like a "golf" course.

I got the feeling as if it were almost private since there were a minimal number of golfers playing on a nice summer afternoon. Drinking appeared to be tolerated, we sat with beers afterwards and the park employee said nothing to us.
Cons: $9 per car for non-county residents. Can be wet/muddy in places even on the holes not with the water hazards, I was glad I had proper waterproof footwear.

Other Thoughts: When the cement tees are installed, this course will even better. My group of 3 from Philly really enjoyed playing this course a lot.

4 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 New home

5+    5/8/2010   5/16/2010
Review By: eugy9228
Played: 22  Reviewed: 5  Exp: 12 Years
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: I love this course i live 5 min from kensington and i play this course more then any other.
A wide arrange of shots Great for a Drivers dream.
Well maintained and great friendly players that are regulaurs as well.
Hole design is fantastic and well played everytime.
Cons: Very few that are ever a game ruiner, truthfully almost a great time everytime i play.
Other Thoughts: Iv'e played boh summer and winter courses here and many others around michigan, not only a great fun course but a beautiful park and wildlife is very frequently seen on the holes. Truthfully had to wait 15 min for 3 deer to clear the hole before we could continue playing.

2 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Give me freedom or give me golf

5+    4/28/2010   4/29/2010
Review By: bygwyllay
Played: 87  Reviewed: 78  Exp: 9.1 Years
This review was updated on 6/9/2011
7 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: **UPDATE**
Awesome upgrades have put this course in with the elite in the area!! New Cement tee pads have been put in for both Pro and Am, and they have added new red-marked dirt tees as well, offering different sight-lines and shorter distances. Fantastic! They drained and destroyed the mire that was the only water hazard on the course (I wonder how many hundred discs they found under the slop) which was an eyesore not to mention horribly placed on hole #6. A few pin adjustments (like #7) make the course much more enjoyable. They've also filled in some of the low-lying areas with mulch which makes your round more comfortable while adding some class to the links. In time this course will be broken in a bit more and really feel like home. Now on par with rolling hills, the other 18 hole course controlled by Washtenaw County. Highly recommended!!!

-Great variations between pro and am tees, both clearly marked. I have a feeling playing the pros would make the course COMPLETELY different
-Moderate mix of hole types throughout
-Clean course, nice folks, not very busy
-Signs on every hole and in between some holes with long walks for guidance
-Makeshift bridges put down over low-lying areas keeping you dry
Cons: This course is hellacious in the summer months, when the brush is at its thickest and the bugs devour your soul. Very challenging and you must harness your Chi to keep your disc on the straight-and-narrow. Thorns everywhere - tell your legs you love them when its all over.
Other Thoughts: This course is becoming one of my favourites. Right up the way from work, it's perfect for an afternoon delight. Still not as good as Rolling Hills, but I think that will come with time. RECOMMENDED!

7 of 7 people found this review helpful.

 A long walk gone...good.

5+    11/22/2009   11/24/2009
Review By: Rupert M
Played: 78  Reviewed: 22  Exp: 18.2 Years
This review was updated on 9/7/2011
4 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: This is a wilderness-hike type course. Lots of ambience and critters abound. Beautiful scenery and great sights. Tee boxes are marked black for pro, white for am and footages are listed with great signs. Signs have more info than I've seen, covering distance to and elevation of the target. Great cement tees. The two sets of tee-pads enable a cornucopia of sight lines. The am-tees aren't always just short pro-tees. They are set up along different lines towards the basket. The use of elevation is optimal. Great elevated tees. Excellent baskets. A nice mix of open and closed fairways. More than an ample amount of grip & rip type holes mixed in with some obscenely difficult tree filled holes. Very challenging throughout. Trash cans on about half the holes. Picnic tables are on about a third.
Cons: The course flow is decent. A few long walks between some holes. Missing a few key 'next tee' signs. It really gets confusing at some areas. No scorecards/maps but there is a course diagram at hole #1. Its out in the middle of nowhere, so stock up on your essentials. And wear your hunter's orange in the fall.
Other Thoughts: This is one of my favorites. A great challenge, great scenery and a hell of a way to spend a day. With a superb mix of difficulties and top notch amenities, this place should rise in the rankings.
As it is right now, its a great start to a very good course.
Right now its free to get in the park. During the warmer months it will not. Me thinks that it belongs to the same county park system as Rolling Hills. They charge $9 per car for non-BFE residents. That is steep, so play them both during the same trip if you can. I sure hope that there will be no additional pay-to-play charge. Unless carts are included.

4 of 5 people found this review helpful.

 Designer Notes

5+    11/2/2010   11/16/2009
Review By: esdubya
Played: 100  Reviewed: 20  Exp: 21 Years
This review was updated on 11/10/2010
3 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: -Amazing land bursting with wildlife. I've seen many red-tailed hawks, honey bee hives, praying mantis, deer, huge frogs. Coyote's have been heard not seen. Wild boar have been spotted.
-Every hole is different and has it's own personality.
-Three different layouts (Black, White, Red) for fun for all skill levels and variety.
-HUGE Concrete Teepads. 6x12 long and 5x10 short.
-Distances measured by a registered land surveyor.
-Elevation measured and printed on the tee signs.
-Feels like a National Park when you are inside.
-Professional staff that knows the game of disc golf.
-Recycle bins in the parking lot.
Cons: Closes at dusk.
High price for a daily pass.
Other Thoughts: I'm one of the designers so my opinion is biased.. I do feel that this is a great course and worthy of a 5 disc rating.

Design took into account course flow, scoring spread, aesthetics and just plain fun-to-play-ness.

The land here is really great, and our club was lucky to have the opportunity to add disc golf here. This project is a labor of love and we did the complete design on volunteer time.

HEY, it could have been a mountain bike trail or a campground.. Now it is disc golf and should be for the foreseeable future. Enjoy!!

3 of 5 people found this review helpful.

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