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Hole #11 (Taken 10/2011)
Hole #11 (Taken 10/2011) 
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Reviews: 28
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Stopped out for a quick round
Pros: - Good variety of holes
- Benches at most of the tees
- Bag hangers and garbage at every tee.
- Well groomed
- Benches at most of the tees
- Bag hangers and garbage at every tee.
- Well groomed
Cons: - A second tee would be nice for some of these holes.
- Blind baskets require a bit of wandering if you are a first-time (I was.) Minor complaint though.
- Signs could be a bit more descriptive. To explain a bit, the signs seemed to be too small to show an appropriate scale for the hole. A dog leg left that was a sharp turn was shown the same way as a gentle dog leg. The signs seemed too cramped to offer what people expect from a sign.
- Blind baskets require a bit of wandering if you are a first-time (I was.) Minor complaint though.
- Signs could be a bit more descriptive. To explain a bit, the signs seemed to be too small to show an appropriate scale for the hole. A dog leg left that was a sharp turn was shown the same way as a gentle dog leg. The signs seemed too cramped to offer what people expect from a sign.
Other Thoughts: Overall a great course, definitely worth stopping at. I wasn't able to try the suggested 27 hole path, but look forward to getting back out there to try it.
I can't speak to how busy it was. I only saw one other group on the course but I was there mid-day on a Tuesday.
I can't speak to how busy it was. I only saw one other group on the course but I was there mid-day on a Tuesday.
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Pros: 1. Good variety in holes. Some fields, some trees, some open, some elevation in addition to great variation in distance.
2. Great, large concrete tee boxes.
2. Clean (Garbage cans on every hole)
3. Good signage
4. Great fairways- with the exception of a couple of holes every fairway is grass
5. Huuuge park
6. Great layout and flow
2. Great, large concrete tee boxes.
2. Clean (Garbage cans on every hole)
3. Good signage
4. Great fairways- with the exception of a couple of holes every fairway is grass
5. Huuuge park
6. Great layout and flow
Cons: 1. Holes 1,3,5,6,7,9 often acquire large amounts of water
2. Late summer = lots of apples on the ground. Lots of apples on the ground = lots of bees
3. Highest chance of encountering large groups of rude disc golfers in the area as Plamann is often crowded.
4. It's always more windy in comparison to other local parks
2. Late summer = lots of apples on the ground. Lots of apples on the ground = lots of bees
3. Highest chance of encountering large groups of rude disc golfers in the area as Plamann is often crowded.
4. It's always more windy in comparison to other local parks
Other Thoughts: My favorite place to go when it isn't windy or crowded.
1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
Plamman 18
5+ 
5/17/2011 
5/17/2011
Review By: DiscGolfer947 Played: 22 Reviewed: 21 Exp: 2.8 Years
This review was updated on 6/8/2012
Pros: 1) nice country club feel
2) concrete tee pads offer great footings for drives.
3) great use of the hills and small patches of woods.
4) has a few good places to bomb a disc
5) very good flow throughout course.
6) practice basket
7) well manicured
8) benches and trash cans at nearly every hole
9) the Medoview 9 picks up after hole 11, makes a good 27 hole course if you have the time.
2) concrete tee pads offer great footings for drives.
3) great use of the hills and small patches of woods.
4) has a few good places to bomb a disc
5) very good flow throughout course.
6) practice basket
7) well manicured
8) benches and trash cans at nearly every hole
9) the Medoview 9 picks up after hole 11, makes a good 27 hole course if you have the time.
Cons: 1) there's a drainage problem that causes holes 1, 3, 6,7, and 9 to be very wet and soupy more often than not.
2) holes 7 and 8 run very close together and can cause problems with golfers on the adjacent hole.
3) VERY undesrciptive tee signs
4) busy, busy, busy
2) holes 7 and 8 run very close together and can cause problems with golfers on the adjacent hole.
3) VERY undesrciptive tee signs
4) busy, busy, busy
Other Thoughts: An all around good course that has had trouble keeping up with the times and really has no legitimate par 4s or 5s.
2 of 6 people found this review helpful.
Plamann Apple creek 18 
Pros: -Very nice well kept park, well kept fairways, rolling hills, surounded by grassy medows.
-Fantastic use of elevation
-Nice concrete tees
-Trash cans on most holes
-Tee signs
-Easy to follow course flow
-an optional 9 holes come into play about halfway through (at hole 12)
-A creek winds through several holes adding an extra obstical, shallow enough to retrieve discs easily.
-Many old and beautiful trees make certain shots fun and challenging.
-Several blind pin placements
-Baskets in good shape
-Several benches at holes
-Dual pin placements
-Excellent variety of short to long holes, left to right shots etc...
-Erosion mats around some of the teeboxes is helpful for preventing erosion, and also helps to retain turf in these areas.
-Nice basket placements, several baskets are on hills and offer roll away potential
-Fantastic use of elevation
-Nice concrete tees
-Trash cans on most holes
-Tee signs
-Easy to follow course flow
-an optional 9 holes come into play about halfway through (at hole 12)
-A creek winds through several holes adding an extra obstical, shallow enough to retrieve discs easily.
-Many old and beautiful trees make certain shots fun and challenging.
-Several blind pin placements
-Baskets in good shape
-Several benches at holes
-Dual pin placements
-Excellent variety of short to long holes, left to right shots etc...
-Erosion mats around some of the teeboxes is helpful for preventing erosion, and also helps to retain turf in these areas.
-Nice basket placements, several baskets are on hills and offer roll away potential
Cons: -Thick rough surrounds some holes making errant shots difficult to find
-Course gets muddy and soft after rain
-Course gets muddy and soft after rain
Other Thoughts: I had a great time playing this course, Im not sure why they didnt just add the optional 9 holes to the other 18 holes. This seems a bit goofy. You also start the optional 9 holes at hole 12 which seems out of place. I would agree with some other reviewers in the fact that if this course were 27 holes instead of 18+ 9 alternates I would have rated it higher. The course was very fun to play and I would love to come back and give it another shot now that I have seen the blind pin placements and have a good feel for where everything is. This is a Rich Martin designed course which adds to its overall coolness. Rich is the man!! He really knows how to use the land he has available to maximise its potential for disc golf, hes a great designer. Its definitely worth a trip to play if your around the area.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Apple Creek 18 
Pros: - The Plamann Apple Creek 18-holer is situated in a spacious, well-maintained, multi-use park along with the Plamann Meadowview 9-hole course. After Apple Creek's 12th hole, you are given the option of playing Meadowview's 9 holes before looping back to Apple Creek's 13th hole.
- Moderate elevation and tightly-spaced trees and bushes require precision and skill to score well. Elevation, as well as the course's trees and brush, is used well throughout. Most holes are in the 300' range or shorter, and several are aceable. A few longer open holes scattered here and there, although nothing punishingly long.
- Risk/reward opportunities throughout. A small creek comes into play on several of the holes, but isn't deep enough in most places to lose a disc in. Most risk comes from trying to hit the "perfect line." Trees will smack you down and ruin your upshot/putt if given half the chance.
- A good mix of hole styles. Everything from short straight ace runs to bombing off of small hills. Trees provide the main obstacles, but do so in a way that doesn't become boring or repetitive. Good mix of anny and hyzer lines. Plenty of blind holes to navigate.
- Concrete tees in great shape. Baskets in good condition for the most part. Adequate signage, trash buckets, and benches at each hole.
- Dual pin positions, although apparently the baskets get moved only very rarely (once every couple of years or so).
- Moderate elevation and tightly-spaced trees and bushes require precision and skill to score well. Elevation, as well as the course's trees and brush, is used well throughout. Most holes are in the 300' range or shorter, and several are aceable. A few longer open holes scattered here and there, although nothing punishingly long.
- Risk/reward opportunities throughout. A small creek comes into play on several of the holes, but isn't deep enough in most places to lose a disc in. Most risk comes from trying to hit the "perfect line." Trees will smack you down and ruin your upshot/putt if given half the chance.
- A good mix of hole styles. Everything from short straight ace runs to bombing off of small hills. Trees provide the main obstacles, but do so in a way that doesn't become boring or repetitive. Good mix of anny and hyzer lines. Plenty of blind holes to navigate.
- Concrete tees in great shape. Baskets in good condition for the most part. Adequate signage, trash buckets, and benches at each hole.
- Dual pin positions, although apparently the baskets get moved only very rarely (once every couple of years or so).
Cons: - The signs, while in good shape and easy on the eyes, don't really depict the hole layout very well. Most end up looking very much the same. This becomes a slight issue with the number of blind holes.
- A few of the baskets had chains that have come loose from the ring that holds them, allowing the chain-links to hang straight down.
- A little on the short side, but not short enough to be super easy or boring. The addition of long tees (if possible) would make this course outstanding.
- A few of the baskets had chains that have come loose from the ring that holds them, allowing the chain-links to hang straight down.
- A little on the short side, but not short enough to be super easy or boring. The addition of long tees (if possible) would make this course outstanding.
Other Thoughts: - As a stand-alone 18, this course is a solid 3.5 discs. Coupled with Meadowview's optional 9 holes, this 27 hole course delivers and would rated higher on my scale.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Very nice course
Pros: The course plays through a nicely manicured multi-use park with awesome maintenance and good separation from other park activities. There are lots of elevation changes, and though none are really drastic they are enough to add quite a bit of challenge and variety to the course. There are some tough uphill shots and some fun downhill holes, and a couple pin placements that are quite conducive to roll aways on missed putts for a little extra risk.
There is a mix of left and right turning holes that make the course play pretty balanced for righty and lefty players. There is a nice variety of distances from ace runs to long bombs which helps keep the course from ever feeling very repetitive. Many holes have enough rough and obstacles that the few open holes make a nice contrast, and the brush that lines some fairways makes for a punishing lie if you throw an errant drive. There are decent signs here with the hole distance, and good concrete tees. The park is well kept with no trash or vandalism that I saw.
There is a mix of left and right turning holes that make the course play pretty balanced for righty and lefty players. There is a nice variety of distances from ace runs to long bombs which helps keep the course from ever feeling very repetitive. Many holes have enough rough and obstacles that the few open holes make a nice contrast, and the brush that lines some fairways makes for a punishing lie if you throw an errant drive. There are decent signs here with the hole distance, and good concrete tees. The park is well kept with no trash or vandalism that I saw.
Cons: The hole maps on the signs are useless, they all look exactly the same so they don't really help all that much, and you still have to walk up the fairway to know where to throw on the several blind holes. There are several holes that bring the park roads into play, making for some possible safety hazards and waits for traffic to pass.
Though there is a good balance of left and right turning holes, few of them require very much turn to negotiate the fairway. This ends up making the course feel like too many holes play pretty much straight ahead, and takes away from the fun factor and challenge for me.
Though there is a good balance of left and right turning holes, few of them require very much turn to negotiate the fairway. This ends up making the course feel like too many holes play pretty much straight ahead, and takes away from the fun factor and challenge for me.
Other Thoughts: This is a nice course that's definitely worth the stop if you're in the area. With the 9 hole course in the same park that intersects this course, you can play a full 27 hole loop which is a nice plus. Beginners will find the course long, and a little punishing. More experienced players will be challenged, though much of the challenge comes from keeping the disc on the fairway not from making a wide variety of shot shapes.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
play while in the area 5+ 10/15/2009 12/28/2009
Review By: tallpaul 
Played: 604 Reviewed: 132 Exp: 25 Years
This review was updated on 7/13/2010
Pros: Quite solid course; has stood the test of time. One of the first 10 with baskets in Wisconsin. Steady Ed involved with original course walk through and design.
Well designed mixture of lhbh and rhbh shots.
Well designed mixture of long and short holes.
ALL shot types are represented here...for blue level players)
Some fall-away greens.
Some ace runs, but only a couple that you should "absolutely" get.
Very well maintained park (with ball golf course feel, as noted by other reviewers). Plamann Park staff maintains this course wonderfully, especially considering amount of play. Trash cans emptied daily; etc. Trash buckets attached to each and every tee post.
Both a con and a pro is the fact that there are few "wow" holes. However, nearly every conceivable "almost wow" shot IS presented.
One 400 foot, but requiring steerage, hole per nine.
Gold level players will find this course rather short. Everyone else should enjoy Plamann a GREAT deal; as nearly every shot presents a good challenge to this level of player. (Thus the 4 rating and above from many "average" players in other reviews.
Meadow view nine makes this overall layout, 27 holes. Big plus. (In most reviews, I bump a course up by .5 for this alone. Here, I did not; as they are listed separately. Meadowview nine less played than Apple Creek, and offers more alone time. (After #11 (original course), go to tee to right of #12 and begin play at #2, Meadow view, to play full 27.)
Big parking lot.
Swimming offered in nice setting.
Hole #1, longest hole on front nine, challenging you from the start. Rhbh players may choose to brave the road to the right with a hyzer and attempt a road skip back into fairway. Tough to get it to come all the way back, without tree trouble on the upshot.
Blind #4, quite a tough hole.
#7 and #8 require long drives to reach. #7 is a quite scenic hole; and for rhbh; required a shot that follows the contours of the land to a blind pin.
#10 and #11 are two of the better short holes anywhere. #10 has all kind of rollaway possibilities, as well as huge pin protection. #11 is aceable through the "two goal post trees", but is a blind placement.
#13 is probably the signature hole here; a "top of the world" type of hole.
#15 is only 245 ft., buts plays uphill the entire way and plays like 300+; in nearly 20 years; I've seen very few drives past this pin
#16 and excellent blind pin. I would perhaps call this one the signature hole.
#17 is only 271 ft., but, again, is an uphill hole.
To sum this up; the overall footage here is only 5300 feet; and there are a few short holes (10,11, 12, and 14); but, a number of the others you may think are short; play longer.
Well designed mixture of lhbh and rhbh shots.
Well designed mixture of long and short holes.
ALL shot types are represented here...for blue level players)
Some fall-away greens.
Some ace runs, but only a couple that you should "absolutely" get.
Very well maintained park (with ball golf course feel, as noted by other reviewers). Plamann Park staff maintains this course wonderfully, especially considering amount of play. Trash cans emptied daily; etc. Trash buckets attached to each and every tee post.
Both a con and a pro is the fact that there are few "wow" holes. However, nearly every conceivable "almost wow" shot IS presented.
One 400 foot, but requiring steerage, hole per nine.
Gold level players will find this course rather short. Everyone else should enjoy Plamann a GREAT deal; as nearly every shot presents a good challenge to this level of player. (Thus the 4 rating and above from many "average" players in other reviews.
Meadow view nine makes this overall layout, 27 holes. Big plus. (In most reviews, I bump a course up by .5 for this alone. Here, I did not; as they are listed separately. Meadowview nine less played than Apple Creek, and offers more alone time. (After #11 (original course), go to tee to right of #12 and begin play at #2, Meadow view, to play full 27.)
Big parking lot.
Swimming offered in nice setting.
Hole #1, longest hole on front nine, challenging you from the start. Rhbh players may choose to brave the road to the right with a hyzer and attempt a road skip back into fairway. Tough to get it to come all the way back, without tree trouble on the upshot.
Blind #4, quite a tough hole.
#7 and #8 require long drives to reach. #7 is a quite scenic hole; and for rhbh; required a shot that follows the contours of the land to a blind pin.
#10 and #11 are two of the better short holes anywhere. #10 has all kind of rollaway possibilities, as well as huge pin protection. #11 is aceable through the "two goal post trees", but is a blind placement.
#13 is probably the signature hole here; a "top of the world" type of hole.
#15 is only 245 ft., buts plays uphill the entire way and plays like 300+; in nearly 20 years; I've seen very few drives past this pin
#16 and excellent blind pin. I would perhaps call this one the signature hole.
#17 is only 271 ft., but, again, is an uphill hole.
To sum this up; the overall footage here is only 5300 feet; and there are a few short holes (10,11, 12, and 14); but, a number of the others you may think are short; play longer.
Cons: One set of tees.
One pin placement (though most holes have been moved slightly over the years to allow pin areas to recuperate).
The MOST crowded course in the Fox Cities. Fox Cities area, in general, played hard. (before noon is preferred if you would like to play at a faster pace)
Some blind holes. (I don't really consider this a con. However, first timers need to realize that unless playing with a local, some fairways will need to be walked to see the pin; and this can be annoying; if you're unprepared for it.)
Apple Creek not in play. (Holes #5, #10, and for long arms, #13 can bring the creek into play with errant shots).
Gold level players will find this to be primarily a pitch and putt. This con is given for these players, only; though they probably already know it.
Holes #5, #6, #9 and #10 used to have wonderful apple orchid feel and especially 5, 9 and 10 played quite a bit tougher before these trees perished. #5 is really the only one of these that will seem quite plain; a whole grove of trees was lost here.
One pin placement (though most holes have been moved slightly over the years to allow pin areas to recuperate).
The MOST crowded course in the Fox Cities. Fox Cities area, in general, played hard. (before noon is preferred if you would like to play at a faster pace)
Some blind holes. (I don't really consider this a con. However, first timers need to realize that unless playing with a local, some fairways will need to be walked to see the pin; and this can be annoying; if you're unprepared for it.)
Apple Creek not in play. (Holes #5, #10, and for long arms, #13 can bring the creek into play with errant shots).
Gold level players will find this to be primarily a pitch and putt. This con is given for these players, only; though they probably already know it.
Holes #5, #6, #9 and #10 used to have wonderful apple orchid feel and especially 5, 9 and 10 played quite a bit tougher before these trees perished. #5 is really the only one of these that will seem quite plain; a whole grove of trees was lost here.
Other Thoughts: The very first Rich Martin design. Rich now has more than seven courses to his credit. Plamann, O'Hauser, and Grignon, are all Martin designed. These three form the "must play trifecta" for the Fox Cities. (Telulah Park is not a Martin design; but should get honorable mention as our #4 solid course) If you fail to be thrilled by these three (from long tees at the other two); you have gotten to the point where you need to find 4+ rated courses to play....and if you're not the pro tour, YOU SHOULD BE....
Local rules stipulate that if you're o.b., over the fence on #18, you must buy ice cream for your group! ha ha
I am now 46 years of age and find Plamann to be quite challenging. There was a period, where I considered this course a bit weak. (I'm trying to give the big picture here. I believe this has been previously explained relating to the 950 rated players.) This course has actually gotten tougher in recent years; I believe, due to growth of rough; especially on hole #4.
Possibility of this course becoming pay to play in the near future. (A con in regards to cost, and a plus.... as numbers of players will be cut back.) Would be nice if pay to play allows for second set of tees and pin placements; perhaps bringing the creek more into play. We will have to wait and see.
Local rules stipulate that if you're o.b., over the fence on #18, you must buy ice cream for your group! ha ha
I am now 46 years of age and find Plamann to be quite challenging. There was a period, where I considered this course a bit weak. (I'm trying to give the big picture here. I believe this has been previously explained relating to the 950 rated players.) This course has actually gotten tougher in recent years; I believe, due to growth of rough; especially on hole #4.
Possibility of this course becoming pay to play in the near future. (A con in regards to cost, and a plus.... as numbers of players will be cut back.) Would be nice if pay to play allows for second set of tees and pin placements; perhaps bringing the creek more into play. We will have to wait and see.
12 of 12 people found this review helpful.
Pros: Great course map at first hole
Well maintained fairways and pads
Nice signs that lead the way
Variety of uphill, downhill, long and blind holes
While in a mixed use park, the disc golf area is only disc golf, no walking paths which surprised me
Well maintained fairways and pads
Nice signs that lead the way
Variety of uphill, downhill, long and blind holes
While in a mixed use park, the disc golf area is only disc golf, no walking paths which surprised me
Cons: Very busy with many families and young kids playing that can interrupt a good flow of play. This is really the only bad thing I have to say about this course. I was able to group up with a few people and play through some families, but most of the time it was just wait, wait, wait. And not really any benches to sit at.
Other Thoughts: Has an additional 9 to play for 27 holes. I never did it, but I heard it's quite hard.
There is a small lake to cool off at between rounds if you want to go for a dip
There is a small lake to cool off at between rounds if you want to go for a dip
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Nicely manicured city park
Pros: The surrounding area of the park is gorgeous. It is set in a mature city park with well mowed fairways, prairie grass meadows, large trees, and rolling terrain. The fact that you can play an additional loop of 9 holes (the Meadow View Course) is a plus. The course utilizes some of the rolling terrain and elevation very well.
Cons: Unfortunately there are no tigt woods here. Most of the park is open and a few holes are VERY open with no challenge at all. Holes 6-10 or 11 present some major crowding issues with baskets very close to tees and fairways parallel to each other. This part of the design is very poor. The course is heavily used and that leads to garbage and vandalism by the useless idiots who choose to do so. The tees are heavily eroded around the concrete pad. In addition to concrete being slippery when wet, the erosion causes approach problems when you fear you'll roll an ankle. Despite being called Apple Creek, the creek is never really in play for any type of true water hazard. While #13 (I think) is a long downhill shot, it doesn't exactly qualify as a huge downhill bomber.
Other Thoughts: Plamman is very scenic and a very sound course. If you are lucky enough to hit it on a slow day, you could enjoy yourself. However, the variety of play is just not there - no extreme woods, no extreme elevation, no unique terrain or features, and no water hazard. It is simply a better than average city park course. The option to play 27 makes it more appealing.
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