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Fun, relaxing round

2-4    10/26/2014   10/27/2014
Review By: Stardoggy
Played: 94  Reviewed: 65  Exp: 3.4 Years
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Plamann 18 is a very serene course set in a very well kept city park, just outside of Appleton on the north side of town.

DGA baskets, all in good repair, and all caught very well. One pin placement per hole, although there are apparently different setups for tournaments.

Concrete tee pads on every hole. Plenty long enough, rectangular, and grippy. One tee position per hole.

The course has a nice mix of distances, from a 436' first hole, down to a 179' hole, and just about everything in between.

The course is FULL of rolling hills and elevation. This is probably the biggest theme of this course, and provides some difficulty. Hole 13 is an especially fun hole, 391' down a big ol' hill, with a creek behind it. Good stuff.

Lots of mature trees will punish errant drives. The fairways are generous on almost every hole, unless you hit one of these trees!

Navigation is pretty intuitive, with most tee pads near the last basket.

Cons: One tee/one pin position is kind of a drag. It's a fairly open park, and at least could use some variety.

It can get swampy here in the spring, especially on the early holes.

You do get the feel that a lot of the holes are either straight, or slightly left to right, which can be tough if you're not throwing particularly straight that day, or depend on a lot of hyzer shots.

There can be a lot of traffic here on nice days. Get there early, and it won't be a problem. Being a big, beautiful park, you also get some stray pedestrian traffic as well, especially around the back side.
Other Thoughts: Plamann is a really fun course for an Int player. It's one of those courses that I always feel like I left a few shots on the course. The lines are fun, and rewarding.

This review is only for the 18 loop, but you can jump into the back 9 after hole 11 (start on hole 2) and it spins you right back to hole 12. Easy peasy.

We were informed that Plamann is one of the first 10 courses in Wisconsin, which was a surprise. It has definitely stood the test of time, and the length is surprising for such an old course. I have a blast every time I play here, and would highly recommend it to anybody looking for a round that isn't a beatdown, but isn't some wide open course.

Plamann is like Flip City's older sister. Flip City is the hot younger sister that everyone wants to get with....Plamann is the slightly older sister that's a bit easier to score on, but not quite as exciting. The ride will still be fun, though!

2 of 2 people found this review helpful.

Apple Creek 18 hole.

1    10/19/2013   10/22/2013
Review By: wolfhaley
Played: 153  Reviewed: 114  Exp: 10.6 Years
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This course can be played by itself or you can jump onto the meadowview course after hole 11 to play the whole 27 hole loop. All holes have nice large, level concrete tees that are plenty grippy. The baskets are Mach 3's that are all in excellent shape and catch nicely. these also have the number plates on top of each which is always nice. There are signs at each tee that have a map of the hole, par, hole # and distance. The flow from hole to hole is very intuitive. the course was well mowed and maintained when we went. There are benches and trash cans all over throughout the course. There's a really good amount of elevation on this course. It's one of the major challenges on this course. There's a really solid mix of left, right and straight shots required here. It's a pretty well balanced course in this regard. Other than that it's moderately wooded with a number of holes being mostly open. There's a good mix of different distances on this course. It starts out with the longest hole at 463 feet on hole 1. The shortest is 179 feet on hole 11, however this is a blind uphill shot which makes up for the shortness here. All the holes have either wood chips or metal grating around each tee pad. Some have both. There's a great variety of different types of trees throughout the different sections of the course making it a very visually appealing course. The course is also free to play. They have a large board at the start of the course with any kind of disc related postings on it.
Cons: My main con here is the tee signs. The map of each hole layout is pretty much useless for first time players. It's basically just a blob that's supposed to be the fairway with a cartoony basket on top of the blob. It doesn't help at all in knowing where the basket is. The course is only open late spring to late fall. It's always nice seeing courses being open year round but there's plenty of other courses nearby that stay up all year. Also the drainage can apparently get pretty bad here. Everything was good as far as that when we went, however it was late October. Something to remember if you go in the spring or after any rain. In order to jump onto the 9 hole loop you need to cross the road after hole 11. You'll see hole 12 to your left and hole 2 of Meadowview to your right. It's just easier to start on hole 2 of Meadowview and finish with hole 1 which will bring you right back to hole 12 to finish the 27 hole loop. I can see why hole 1 is where it is just a little confusing for first time players. There's only one set of tee and basket locations here. It would be nice if at least they had multiple pin locations on such an otherwise real solid course.
Other Thoughts: All in all this is a plenty fun course that would make for a fun day of disc golf by itself or combined with any of the many other nearby courses. I gave it a 3.5 because it is very good. There's just nothing that really sticks out to make it super memorable. It's just a real solid well designed course. I'd definitely check this one out if you're in the area.

4 of 4 people found this review helpful.


1    8/23/2013   8/26/2013
Review By: Dan K
Played: 2  Reviewed: 2  Exp: 6.2 Years
0 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: Elevation, Some big distance holes.
Cons: Wasps and Bees! Not going to lie, after going into anaphylactic shock years ago the amount of potential near death experiences made the course particularly challenging for me. :)

Besides a few holes, it seemed the majority of holes were shorter with not much variety in technical difficulty.
Other Thoughts: Over-all one of the better kept courses I've been to. Garbage disposal options were stellar!

0 of 2 people found this review helpful.

Apple Creek AND Meadowview review

1    7/28/2013   8/8/2013
Review By: Furry Lint Trap
Played: 4  Reviewed: 4  Exp: 11.6 Years
1 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: - Great layout, with a variety of obstacles, elevation, tight and open shots. Meadowview plays more on the tight and narrow side.

- Tees, baskets well maintained. Garbage and benches at nearly (if not all) holes.

- Ton of fun factor
Cons: - Biggest complaint is drainage. Played after a slight rain, and was muddy, etc in places. Nothing crazy, but could use a bit of work in this area.

- Tad short for the experienced player, but makes up for it with variety of shots.
Other Thoughts: I really liked this 27 hole course. Might be biased as I played a -7 here, but I found it very enjoyable and never felt repetitive. Was sad there wasn't a couple super long holes to let the big dog hunt, but not all course can have a 700' fairway. Will DEFINITELY play this course again if up near Appleton.

1 of 2 people found this review helpful.

 Stopped out for a quick round

1    10/2/2012   10/3/2012
Review By: Awol
Played: 9  Reviewed: 5  Exp: 11.6 Years
1 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: - Good variety of holes
- Benches at most of the tees
- Bag hangers and garbage at every tee.
- Well groomed
Cons: - A second tee would be nice for some of these holes.
- Blind baskets require a bit of wandering if you are a first-time (I was.) Minor complaint though.
- Signs could be a bit more descriptive. To explain a bit, the signs seemed to be too small to show an appropriate scale for the hole. A dog leg left that was a sharp turn was shown the same way as a gentle dog leg. The signs seemed too cramped to offer what people expect from a sign.
Other Thoughts: Overall a great course, definitely worth stopping at. I wasn't able to try the suggested 27 hole path, but look forward to getting back out there to try it.

I can't speak to how busy it was. I only saw one other group on the course but I was there mid-day on a Tuesday.

1 of 2 people found this review helpful.

 

5+    6/25/2011   6/25/2011
Review By: BKGuitar9
Played: 4  Reviewed: 2  Exp: 13.5 Years
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: 1. Good variety in holes. Some fields, some trees, some open, some elevation in addition to great variation in distance.
2. Great, large concrete tee boxes.
2. Clean (Garbage cans on every hole)
3. Good signage
4. Great fairways- with the exception of a couple of holes every fairway is grass
5. Huuuge park
6. Great layout and flow

Cons: 1. Holes 1,3,5,6,7,9 often acquire large amounts of water
2. Late summer = lots of apples on the ground. Lots of apples on the ground = lots of bees
3. Highest chance of encountering large groups of rude disc golfers in the area as Plamann is often crowded.
4. It's always more windy in comparison to other local parks
Other Thoughts: My favorite place to go when it isn't windy or crowded.

1 of 1 people found this review helpful.

 Plamman 18

5+    5/17/2011   5/17/2011
Review By: DiscGolfer947
Played: 34  Reviewed: 23  Exp: 4.4 Years
This review was updated on 6/8/2012
2 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: 1) nice country club feel
2) concrete tee pads offer great footings for drives.
3) great use of the hills and small patches of woods.
4) has a few good places to bomb a disc
5) very good flow throughout course.
6) practice basket
7) well manicured
8) benches and trash cans at nearly every hole
9) the Medoview 9 picks up after hole 11, makes a good 27 hole course if you have the time.
Cons: 1) there's a drainage problem that causes holes 1, 3, 6,7, and 9 to be very wet and soupy more often than not.
2) holes 7 and 8 run very close together and can cause problems with golfers on the adjacent hole.
3) VERY undesrciptive tee signs
4) busy, busy, busy
Other Thoughts: An all around good course that has had trouble keeping up with the times and really has no legitimate par 4s or 5s.

2 of 6 people found this review helpful.

 Plamann Apple creek 18

1    10/30/2010   12/3/2010
Review By: Terry C
Played: 49  Reviewed: 27  Exp: 17.7 Years
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: -Very nice well kept park, well kept fairways, rolling hills, surounded by grassy medows.
-Fantastic use of elevation
-Nice concrete tees
-Trash cans on most holes
-Tee signs
-Easy to follow course flow
-an optional 9 holes come into play about halfway through (at hole 12)
-A creek winds through several holes adding an extra obstical, shallow enough to retrieve discs easily.
-Many old and beautiful trees make certain shots fun and challenging.
-Several blind pin placements
-Baskets in good shape
-Several benches at holes
-Dual pin placements
-Excellent variety of short to long holes, left to right shots etc...
-Erosion mats around some of the teeboxes is helpful for preventing erosion, and also helps to retain turf in these areas.
-Nice basket placements, several baskets are on hills and offer roll away potential
Cons: -Thick rough surrounds some holes making errant shots difficult to find
-Course gets muddy and soft after rain
Other Thoughts: I had a great time playing this course, Im not sure why they didnt just add the optional 9 holes to the other 18 holes. This seems a bit goofy. You also start the optional 9 holes at hole 12 which seems out of place. I would agree with some other reviewers in the fact that if this course were 27 holes instead of 18+ 9 alternates I would have rated it higher. The course was very fun to play and I would love to come back and give it another shot now that I have seen the blind pin placements and have a good feel for where everything is. This is a Rich Martin designed course which adds to its overall coolness. Rich is the man!! He really knows how to use the land he has available to maximise its potential for disc golf, hes a great designer. Its definitely worth a trip to play if your around the area.

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Apple Creek 18

1    10/30/2010   11/1/2010
Review By: Jukeshoe
Played: 194  Reviewed: 153  Exp: 5.3 Years
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - The Plamann Apple Creek 18-holer is situated in a spacious, well-maintained, multi-use park along with the Plamann Meadowview 9-hole course. After Apple Creek's 12th hole, you are given the option of playing Meadowview's 9 holes before looping back to Apple Creek's 13th hole.
- Moderate elevation and tightly-spaced trees and bushes require precision and skill to score well. Elevation, as well as the course's trees and brush, is used well throughout. Most holes are in the 300' range or shorter, and several are aceable. A few longer open holes scattered here and there, although nothing punishingly long.
- Risk/reward opportunities throughout. A small creek comes into play on several of the holes, but isn't deep enough in most places to lose a disc in. Most risk comes from trying to hit the "perfect line." Trees will smack you down and ruin your upshot/putt if given half the chance.
- A good mix of hole styles. Everything from short straight ace runs to bombing off of small hills. Trees provide the main obstacles, but do so in a way that doesn't become boring or repetitive. Good mix of anny and hyzer lines. Plenty of blind holes to navigate.
- Concrete tees in great shape. Baskets in good condition for the most part. Adequate signage, trash buckets, and benches at each hole.
- Dual pin positions, although apparently the baskets get moved only very rarely (once every couple of years or so).
Cons: - The signs, while in good shape and easy on the eyes, don't really depict the hole layout very well. Most end up looking very much the same. This becomes a slight issue with the number of blind holes.
- A few of the baskets had chains that have come loose from the ring that holds them, allowing the chain-links to hang straight down.
- A little on the short side, but not short enough to be super easy or boring. The addition of long tees (if possible) would make this course outstanding.
Other Thoughts: - As a stand-alone 18, this course is a solid 3.5 discs. Coupled with Meadowview's optional 9 holes, this 27 hole course delivers and would rated higher on my scale.

5 of 5 people found this review helpful.

 Very nice course

1    7/4/2010   7/13/2010
Review By: mashnut
Played: 817  Reviewed: 774  Exp: 12.8 Years
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course plays through a nicely manicured multi-use park with awesome maintenance and good separation from other park activities. There are lots of elevation changes, and though none are really drastic they are enough to add quite a bit of challenge and variety to the course. There are some tough uphill shots and some fun downhill holes, and a couple pin placements that are quite conducive to roll aways on missed putts for a little extra risk.

There is a mix of left and right turning holes that make the course play pretty balanced for righty and lefty players. There is a nice variety of distances from ace runs to long bombs which helps keep the course from ever feeling very repetitive. Many holes have enough rough and obstacles that the few open holes make a nice contrast, and the brush that lines some fairways makes for a punishing lie if you throw an errant drive. There are decent signs here with the hole distance, and good concrete tees. The park is well kept with no trash or vandalism that I saw.
Cons: The hole maps on the signs are useless, they all look exactly the same so they don't really help all that much, and you still have to walk up the fairway to know where to throw on the several blind holes. There are several holes that bring the park roads into play, making for some possible safety hazards and waits for traffic to pass.

Though there is a good balance of left and right turning holes, few of them require very much turn to negotiate the fairway. This ends up making the course feel like too many holes play pretty much straight ahead, and takes away from the fun factor and challenge for me.
Other Thoughts: This is a nice course that's definitely worth the stop if you're in the area. With the 9 hole course in the same park that intersects this course, you can play a full 27 hole loop which is a nice plus. Beginners will find the course long, and a little punishing. More experienced players will be challenged, though much of the challenge comes from keeping the disc on the fairway not from making a wide variety of shot shapes.

4 of 4 people found this review helpful.

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