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Hole #15 (Taken 4/2012)
Hole #15 (Taken 4/2012) 
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Beginner/Intermediate
Pros: - Course is set on the grounds of a large private ranch, with plenty of room to spare. There are a lot of other activities that could be going on, but it's private, so any interference shouldn't be a surprise.
- First three holes are in dense, tight woods that demand very good accuracy. #1 and #2 have a RHFH flex line open, and #3 is a tight little RHBH anny through a gap and down a tunnel. #9 is a similar shot that works with a RHBH hyzer, that has a slight downhill slope. #11 is another hyzer, but has a slight uphill to it. #13 is a tight tunnel with a large tree blocking the exit and the pin. All of these have lots of tree jail off of the fairway, a bad kick can make things very tricky.
- A number of other holes are next to the woods, or finish within them. #10 is pretty open, but has a big downhill slope, so shots that fade or turn out of control will find some nasty rough. #12 finishes to the right in the forest, #14's pin is in front of the woods, and #15 is tucked behind multiple trees/bushes. #17 has some trees around the basket as well. #16 only has one tree to worry about, but a big lake as well!
- Good elevation changes here, #4 and #5 are decent downhill shots, #10 is a very good downhill shot, #15 is blind due to a hump in the fairway, and the wooded holes listed above aren't too shabby. Definitely feels like more downhill shots than uphill. Some sloped greens, especially on #16 (towards the water of course).
- Some water is present on a few holes, in addition to the lake. An island green on #1 is surrounded by a small creekbed, there is a big creek way right of #6, and behind #18's pin. It is definitely in play on #1, #16, and #18, and looming on #6.
- Nice baskets, teepads aren't too bad. Signage, depends. There was fresh spray paint when I was there, and some flags, otherwise you're on your own. Map is a MUST, luckily there were some in the front when I was there.
- First three holes are in dense, tight woods that demand very good accuracy. #1 and #2 have a RHFH flex line open, and #3 is a tight little RHBH anny through a gap and down a tunnel. #9 is a similar shot that works with a RHBH hyzer, that has a slight downhill slope. #11 is another hyzer, but has a slight uphill to it. #13 is a tight tunnel with a large tree blocking the exit and the pin. All of these have lots of tree jail off of the fairway, a bad kick can make things very tricky.
- A number of other holes are next to the woods, or finish within them. #10 is pretty open, but has a big downhill slope, so shots that fade or turn out of control will find some nasty rough. #12 finishes to the right in the forest, #14's pin is in front of the woods, and #15 is tucked behind multiple trees/bushes. #17 has some trees around the basket as well. #16 only has one tree to worry about, but a big lake as well!
- Good elevation changes here, #4 and #5 are decent downhill shots, #10 is a very good downhill shot, #15 is blind due to a hump in the fairway, and the wooded holes listed above aren't too shabby. Definitely feels like more downhill shots than uphill. Some sloped greens, especially on #16 (towards the water of course).
- Some water is present on a few holes, in addition to the lake. An island green on #1 is surrounded by a small creekbed, there is a big creek way right of #6, and behind #18's pin. It is definitely in play on #1, #16, and #18, and looming on #6.
- Nice baskets, teepads aren't too bad. Signage, depends. There was fresh spray paint when I was there, and some flags, otherwise you're on your own. Map is a MUST, luckily there were some in the front when I was there.
Cons: - Biggest con at this course is the large number of open shots. #4, #11, and #14 have baskets near the woods, but that's about it. #5, #6, #7, and #8 have at most one tree to worry about, these are very straightforward and pretty bland. Most holes that end in the woods have no other obstacles, either.
- Some very short hole lengths, with 10 holes under 250'. There are pro tees, but only when marked.
- No pads, and no signs, can make for a rough day of looking around. Even with a map in hand, and the freshest spray paint, it was a little tricky. Just a heads up if it's your first time going there. 1st tee is across the creek, even with the payboxes.
- Some very short hole lengths, with 10 holes under 250'. There are pro tees, but only when marked.
- No pads, and no signs, can make for a rough day of looking around. Even with a map in hand, and the freshest spray paint, it was a little tricky. Just a heads up if it's your first time going there. 1st tee is across the creek, even with the payboxes.
Other Thoughts: - Overall, a well balanced course that has some technical, though short, wooded holes, some big shots out in the open, and a few in between. Good hazards are present in the woods, including water, and some open shots do have challenges as well.
- Better suited for beginners or intermediate players, as long as you can avoid the water. More experienced players will probably cruise through most of the holes. Pro tees help, but again, can be hard to locate without help.
- Better suited for beginners or intermediate players, as long as you can avoid the water. More experienced players will probably cruise through most of the holes. Pro tees help, but again, can be hard to locate without help.
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fun, small rec course 
Pros: -private course in the middle of the country, over the weekend I was there, I saw two other groups playing the entire time.
-awesome facilities for a private party, although expensive to rent them out. A stage, pavilion, cabins, full kitchen, a nice pond for swimming and fishing.
-A decent variety of holes featuring short, tight wooded holes ranging from 150' to 250', hole 3 is probably my favorite example of these, it is a 250' tunnel shot with a low ceiling. The course also has open holes and semi open holes many with slight to large elevation changes. Hole 10 is probably my favorite example of this it's a 390' hole with an 80' wide fairway cut by the power company for lines. Large diwnhill elevation change allowing you to throw a slower disc and watch it glide. A couple water hazards out there, as well. Hole 16 throws over a pond into a peninsula green with pond on the left and ob on the right.
-Forgiving baskets: I think they are titans, but I play on titans regularly and these are more forgiving of bad putts. This definitely adds to the rec nature of the course.
-Water spicots by the pavilion on the way to 10 and 17.
-awesome facilities for a private party, although expensive to rent them out. A stage, pavilion, cabins, full kitchen, a nice pond for swimming and fishing.
-A decent variety of holes featuring short, tight wooded holes ranging from 150' to 250', hole 3 is probably my favorite example of these, it is a 250' tunnel shot with a low ceiling. The course also has open holes and semi open holes many with slight to large elevation changes. Hole 10 is probably my favorite example of this it's a 390' hole with an 80' wide fairway cut by the power company for lines. Large diwnhill elevation change allowing you to throw a slower disc and watch it glide. A couple water hazards out there, as well. Hole 16 throws over a pond into a peninsula green with pond on the left and ob on the right.
-Forgiving baskets: I think they are titans, but I play on titans regularly and these are more forgiving of bad putts. This definitely adds to the rec nature of the course.
-Water spicots by the pavilion on the way to 10 and 17.
Cons: -If you haven't played this course before, don't try and play it without a guide. You will not find any of the tees. They are marked with bricks on the ground and all of them are overgrown. There are only a couple signs here also that have footage.
-Too short for my tastes. Every hole was reachable, and there were no holes 400' or more.
-The wooded holes were pretty much holes in the woods. A good shot would get knocked down and a bad shot would get lucky. So there was just too much luck involved on the front nine especially.
-A few 'meh' holes that were just thrown in the design to get you to the next hole. 7 is a good example, 210' shot with a big guard tree.
-A few holes that were overgrown. 8 is a good example. Off the teepad a bush had grown out and made you throw a big hyzer out to the right of it. I doubt it was intended to be played like that.
-No trash cans.
-Too short for my tastes. Every hole was reachable, and there were no holes 400' or more.
-The wooded holes were pretty much holes in the woods. A good shot would get knocked down and a bad shot would get lucky. So there was just too much luck involved on the front nine especially.
-A few 'meh' holes that were just thrown in the design to get you to the next hole. 7 is a good example, 210' shot with a big guard tree.
-A few holes that were overgrown. 8 is a good example. Off the teepad a bush had grown out and made you throw a big hyzer out to the right of it. I doubt it was intended to be played like that.
-No trash cans.
Other Thoughts: Overall a fun short course, but I probably won't return. It was a trip for me and there are much better courses in the STL area.
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Pros: El Shaddai is a private course so there are rarely more than a few people playing! We ran across one group of two on our 3 hour round. The course starts with some really tough wooded holes, then opens up to some open but shaped shots. The variety of holes is something that you will not find in any of the courses around St. Louis. The wooded holes are tight, but have several ways of getting through. The open holes incorporate elevation changes and natural obstacles. This is one of my favorites because it has a variety of lengths on the open holes, shaped open holes, and tough wooded holes.
The Gateway Titan Pro Baskets are painted red and easy to see through the trees.
The Gateway Titan Pro Baskets are painted red and easy to see through the trees.
Cons: Hard to find if you don't have navigation. The course is overwhelmingly difficult to navigate, you definitely have to bring someone that has played before. no tee-pads, however, the course is private so the natural pads are in good shape.
Other Thoughts: When you find deer run lane, go through the gate, and past the house down to the creek. Park on the right, and cross the creek and hole one is to your right in the woods. Here is a pretty accurate map of the course. If you look in the bottom left you can see the road you come in on and where hole 1 is.
http://stlouisdiscgolfclub.co...=24&t=172
http://stlouisdiscgolfclub.co...=24&t=172
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Quiet as a mouse
Pros: I just played this course today. It is a course with alot of potential to be a very nice course. The things I liked about this course it has some very tight holes and others that are wide open some over water the frount nine are close together so not a long walk inbetween holes like the back half and there was a very friendly
dog that was leading the way.
dog that was leading the way.
Cons: The cons if you do not have someone that has playied the course with you you will be lost because the signs are small or not there at all some of the blocks are grown over and hard to find. No maps or next tee signs at all. No trash cans no potty rooms
Other Thoughts: It is A good course for the not so long player but needs some serious help in the markings and trash cans to keep it as pretty as it is quiet.
2 of 5 people found this review helpful.
The Jewel in the Nile 
Pros: Very well kept private course west of St. Louis where there is a shortage of Disc Golf Courses
Great mixture of long and short holes, wooded and open.
Even the wide open holes have some sort of obsticle, ranging from a huge creek, trees near the baskets, and a lake.
Big baskets are always a plus until you miss a 10' putt.
Great mixture of long and short holes, wooded and open.
Even the wide open holes have some sort of obsticle, ranging from a huge creek, trees near the baskets, and a lake.
Big baskets are always a plus until you miss a 10' putt.
Cons: Private course with no facilities. Have to be on your best behavior.
Long walks between a lot of the holes such as 9-10, 16-17, and 17-18. There used to be 2 tee pads but I haven't seen the whites in a long time.
Long walks between a lot of the holes such as 9-10, 16-17, and 17-18. There used to be 2 tee pads but I haven't seen the whites in a long time.
Other Thoughts: If you are looking for a very well kept course that no one knows about, this is it. It will test your arm as well as your accuracy. Unlike a lot of courses, the only sounds you hear here are the sounds of nature.
Call the owners to make sure there is not an event going on.
Call the owners to make sure there is not an event going on.
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AWESOME!, and PRIVATE!!!! 
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2/15/2009 
3/12/2009
Review By: REDARMY 
Played: 32 Reviewed: 29 Exp: 5 Years
This review was updated on 9/13/2009
Pros: Where to start.....
Private! So golfer traffic is virtually nil.
Cool red paint on the (as yet unidentified type of) baskets.
Fantastic shot variety (save for open bomber holes). Hyzers, anhyzers, uphill, downhill, into and out of trees, a couple cool tunnel shots, and a few over water. Backhands, forehands, and rollers are all here.
Wicked holes (and pin placements) that stick out are:
1, Tight woods with an island green.
3, A short shot but the fairway tapers down to a narrow tunnel to get through.
7, Open, but the pin is behind an enormous tree. I can't imagine anyone aceing this hole.
10, An EPIC view. The tee is at the top of a hill, you shoot down the valley, and your position at the tee gives you a view across the bottom of the valley and up to the next hill, all with vertigo-inducing powerlines above screwing up your visual field. Fantastic!
13, Short shot where a tight tunnel opens up at the end, but the pin is obscured behind a big pine tree and barely visible from the tee. Can't imagine anyone aceing this hole either.
16, Shooting over the lake to the left with OB fence to the right. You have to be brave but careful.
Course's location is out in the middle of nowhere. A very quiet and peaceful game of disc golf.
Fairly well maintained facilities, so losing discs (unless you chuck them into the forest) is a remote possibility.
Plenty of parking (but see notes below).
Private! So golfer traffic is virtually nil.
Cool red paint on the (as yet unidentified type of) baskets.
Fantastic shot variety (save for open bomber holes). Hyzers, anhyzers, uphill, downhill, into and out of trees, a couple cool tunnel shots, and a few over water. Backhands, forehands, and rollers are all here.
Wicked holes (and pin placements) that stick out are:
1, Tight woods with an island green.
3, A short shot but the fairway tapers down to a narrow tunnel to get through.
7, Open, but the pin is behind an enormous tree. I can't imagine anyone aceing this hole.
10, An EPIC view. The tee is at the top of a hill, you shoot down the valley, and your position at the tee gives you a view across the bottom of the valley and up to the next hill, all with vertigo-inducing powerlines above screwing up your visual field. Fantastic!
13, Short shot where a tight tunnel opens up at the end, but the pin is obscured behind a big pine tree and barely visible from the tee. Can't imagine anyone aceing this hole either.
16, Shooting over the lake to the left with OB fence to the right. You have to be brave but careful.
Course's location is out in the middle of nowhere. A very quiet and peaceful game of disc golf.
Fairly well maintained facilities, so losing discs (unless you chuck them into the forest) is a remote possibility.
Plenty of parking (but see notes below).
Cons: Private course with no help from the local gov., so the course has no: tee pads, maps, benches, or trash cans. No info kiosk and no score cards.
A couple tees didn't have signs (probably removed by vandals), and the ones that are there at other holes are rather primitive (but remember, no funding).
No trash cans, and inconsiderate golfers, means a minor litter problem.
A couple tees didn't have signs (probably removed by vandals), and the ones that are there at other holes are rather primitive (but remember, no funding).
No trash cans, and inconsiderate golfers, means a minor litter problem.
Other Thoughts: PRIVATE COURSE!
(sorry for being redundant, but this must be stressed)
The course is on the property of the El Shaddai Ranch. Calling ahead to be sure the property isn't being used is HIGHLY recommended. Granted, it's not that big of a problem in the winter time, but as it warms up, the Christian groups WILL be out there using the land,and trespassers are NOT welcome.
DO NOT DRIVE ACROSS THE CREEK! The gravel road that takes you into the property eventually ends in an open field on the right side of the creek, opposite the first tee.
Park there, then walk across the creek. First tee to your right.
(sorry for being redundant, but this must be stressed)
The course is on the property of the El Shaddai Ranch. Calling ahead to be sure the property isn't being used is HIGHLY recommended. Granted, it's not that big of a problem in the winter time, but as it warms up, the Christian groups WILL be out there using the land,and trespassers are NOT welcome.
DO NOT DRIVE ACROSS THE CREEK! The gravel road that takes you into the property eventually ends in an open field on the right side of the creek, opposite the first tee.
Park there, then walk across the creek. First tee to your right.
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