4 Helpful / 8 Not
Pros: Unique, challenging layout that brings water and or elevation into play on almost every hole. Proof that you do not need a bunch of 800 foot holes to make a great pro level course.
Cons: It will be very hard on beginning players. Also very hard if you have problems dealing with elevation changes.
Other Thoughts: After thinking a while about the course I think that this might be one oft the best examples of a risk reward course. On many holes a missed putt could cost you more than one stroke. Course management is key to good scores.
4 of 12 people found this review helpful.
7 Helpful / 6 Not
Pros: I just don't see how he doe's it. For the quality of this course you would think it would be at a fancy country club or something. The layout is great with the signs posting everything you need to know. Also has a great easy flow from chains to the next tee. The fairways and everything else is mowed and taken care of. It has so much variaty you can't really get comfortable with just one type of trow like I've seen at most courses. You are always having to adapt from basket to basket, which is the best part about the game, the challange. It is very beautiful place to play, and I just want to thank the guy who made it and takes care of it cause it is the best, and probly the best I'll ever play. Thanks for the course man.
Cons: The only thing I can think of is on one of the tee boxs is, (don' remember what tee off it is) It is a built little deck about 4 feet off the ground and I was scared I would fall off of it in the middle of my rotation. If a little guard rail was up, That would be awesome, of maybe make the platform a little wider.
Other Thoughts: I'm just glad I live pretty close to the course cause if I lived out of state, the gas money would kill me just to go play this course. Cause I would be going back all the time. Thanks again for a kick ass course.
7 of 13 people found this review helpful.
11 Helpful / 1 Not
Huge Props to Howie!!!
Pros: Excellent layout and extremely unique with acres of beautiful land. Parking lot right where you tee off on hole1. Camping is also available. Howie had a bucket with course maps for first time players. Not to mention fishing poles, disc retrievers, and a boat around the pond to get your disc if it goes in the water. The fairways were clearly defined and mowed with some fairways divided with rope which was OB.. The tee signs were great with the yardages, par, and OB's clearly labeled. The course is very different from the BG course's but I say this in a good way. With this being on private property it has a totally different feel from the "city" courses. Clear paths to the next holes which made for easy navigating.
Cons: The only knock I can give this course is the baskets and tee pads, which everyone else has mentioned. But these things come with time and money. But the thing with the tee pads is that you really can't have nice big concrete pads on most of the holes because of the angle, height, or placement of the pads. Honestly how are you suppost to have concrete tee pad on a boulder that is 8-9 feet in the air? Same thing relates to the baskets. How and why would you permanently mount a basket on a rock? Yeah it would be nice to have Innova Sport baskets on every hole but that's like 200 bucks a piece. And when he only charges $5.00 a person per day to play how you going to fund that. He probably barely makes enough money to pay for the gas to cut the grass. Sorry going a little off course....... Anyway there's not really a "bad" thing to complain about.
Other Thoughts: In ending I just want to personally thank Howie for a kick @$$ course. I for one really appreciate the work and time that he has put in there to make it a "one of a kind course" and look forward to going back as soon as possible. And with time this course will be at the top of the review list with Idlewild and Whistler's Bend when more and more people get the privledge of playing a round here.
11 of 12 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 12 Not
Pros: Well defined fairways that will challenge all levels of players. Lots of elevation change and tricky pin placements. Water hazards on several holes. Beautiful course with amazing views. Baskets perched on boulders making true "up" shots.
Cons: Tics are the only thing I can think of.
1 of 13 people found this review helpful.
9 Helpful / 2 Not
Favorite course in KY
Pros: Private property so it is disc golf only. No walkers, joggers, bikes, or random picnickers. Course has everything. Long short, par 3, 4, and 5. Lots of elevation, flat holes, a river that comes in to play and a pond. All of the fairways are real fairways not trees in the middle. All of the distances are good distances no tweener holes. Amazing greens on several holes with baskets on boulders and with risk reward pins. This course will reward skilled smart players and absolutely punish bad play. This is a must play!
Cons: Maybe some of the tee pads are a little small and the baskets are original DGA mach lights. However both rounds that I have played out there with my groups I have yet to see a spit out.
Other Thoughts: If this is your first time don't be afraid to walk up and see where the hole goes. It is not wise to just throw and assume you know were the hole is. You may end up losing your disc or looking for awhile.
9 of 11 people found this review helpful.
9 Helpful / 4 Not
Big Shot Review
Pros: Epic! The most challenging disc golf course in the area. Fairways are pure gaps......distances are perfect.....13+ deuce holes!! Several different shots are needed......and wow, what a view!! The tobaggon course in MI, comes to mind when I played this course for the first time.....in the same class with Idlewild as well.
Benches on every hole.....new fly pads on every hole....and the holes are well marked and easy to find.
The last 3 holes are the best finishing holes I have ever seen.....epic, epic, and more epic....I have played over 100 courses in 12 years, and Holler in the Hills Disc Golf course is in the top 3 all time!!
Cons: The baskets are average, but double chains help.....a little rough during the summer months.....wear long socks, bring bug spray, and plenty of water.......this course is a serious workout....but well worth it!!
Other Thoughts: Howie Baird should be inducted into the Disc Golf Hall of Fame, for this gem he built for us!!
5-1-10 update....Brand New Pro Discatchers???!!! Hole 1 and 18 now elevated with rock from the creek??!! Staircases on tough climbs??!! Lots of bad areas cleaned up??!! School Bus is getting cleaned out and painted for tournament central??!! I thought I read how someone said it wasn't possible to put concrete pads on a boulder.....well guess again........he did it!! I can't wipe a smile off my face when I'm at the Holler.....all life's problems suddenly seem distant....very peaceful and fullfilling......EPIC!!! You HAVE to visit this course if you love disc golf!!
9 of 13 people found this review helpful.
21 Helpful / 0 Not
Challenging in every sense of the word
Pros: - Beautiful course way back in the... well.. hills. Offers the solitude that only a private course can.
- Built for Pros by a Pro. Howie, a 951 rated player, has pulled out all the stops to challenge even the most advanced players.
- Interesting tee and pin positions. One hole has you driving from the top of a rock to the top of another rock. A couple of others also include throwing at the tops of boulders. You haven't lived until you've tried to throw your putter 30 feet nearly straight up.
- Printed directions for each hole (including consequences for missing your shot in any direction) coupled with signs on trees make it hard to get lost.
- Excellent tee signs with hole description at every hole.
- Trashcans and benches at nearly every hole. And you'll need the benches.
- Amazing use of elevation. No other course I've played even comes close. The elevation also has a staggering effect on the risk/reward factor. You'll find yourself simply overthinking a lot of putts.
- Camping available on site during tournaments.
Cons: - I didn't see any restrooms. It's possible I missed it, though. I didn't think to ask Howie.
- Unless you're a top pro, you're virtually guaranteed to throw several discs into unwanted places. And by unwanted, I mean off a cliff, into a creek, into a pond, into waist-deep rough (I'm 6'7"... waist deep on me will completely swallow the vertically challenged) or any combination of the above. There are long poles and water retrieval tools laying around the course to help, though.
- I think my biggest gripe with the course are the mismatched temporary baskets. There are a couple of decent portable innova Discatchers out there, but for the most part you're going to be shooting at inferior targets. I understand the reason for this (baskets cost a lot of money) and I also don't expect permanent baskets on top of boulders, but the current basket setup will eventually need to be improved. The decreased margin of error adds another layer of difficulty that simply isn't needed.
Other Thoughts: - I'm going to go ahead and label this course "The Flip City of the South." That's actually being a little unfair to Holler, now that I think about it. The main gripes against both Flip and Idlewild, that I can see, are that they have too many mediocre holes to truly be flawless. I'm thinking of the first two merely satisfactory holes at Flip that leave newcomers momentarily wondering what all the fuss is about and the easy (and short) birdie holes at Idlewild. What about Holler, you say? Well, let's put it this way... Holler in the Hills can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead. This is non-stop torture for anyone who isn't in prime physical condition. There simply aren't any "ho hum, it's birdie time" holes, you have to earn every shot.
- Getting back to the Flip City comparison, Howie is a one man band just like Bill at Flip. He hasn't been at it nearly as long as Bill (early 2007 compared to the early 1980s), but the amount of work he's accomplished is staggering. You have to understand that anything done at this course, like paying $6,000 to get a lake filled in, getting numerous truckloads of gravel for the parking lot, or simply keeping the grass mowed are Howie's responsibility. His current projects are building an information billboard with awning in the parking lot and building a guard rail to ensure that you don't fall off of the tee on the 'rock to rock' hole. The sheer financial cost coupled with the countless hours he's pouring into this course are staggering. That adds to the charm of private courses, in my opinion... you can almost see the blood and sweat put into these courses when you play them.
- I recommend visiting the course's website and contacting Howie to try and play the course with him. His guidance helped me avoid some sticky situations and I think I might have even learned a thing or two.
- According to Howie, Al Shack holds the course record with score of 50. This includes a missed putt that went in the water on hole #5. Proof that even the best are going to make mistakes here.
- I also recommend being as generous as you can at the donation box. Just know that your funding will help to continue the development and refinement of this extremely challenging, and destined to eventually be in the top 10, disc golf experience. I'm proud to have Holler in the Hills as my 200th career round.
21 of 21 people found this review helpful.
18 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course plays on private land through wooded hills. There is a creek and a pond, along with boulders and other natural obstacles. The water comes into play on a few holes, and is used very well to make a player really consider their shot. Nearly every hole on the course has some kind of elevation change, and the hills are used extremely well to add interest and variety. There are a couple holes where the tees or baskets (or both!) are on top of boulders, and these holes not only looked very cool but also made for unique challenges.
The layout of the course made really good use of the available land. There are all kinds of holes, from short ace runs to long holes where it'll take a couple controlled drives to get there. There is also a nice mix of straight shots and shots that curve left or right, and no two holes on the course felt the same. The course was clearly designed by someone who is passionate about the sport, and who really took the time to challenge every type of player.
When I played, there were signs on the first half of the course, along with a detailed written set of directions that you could carry with you throughout the course. With these, there were no navigation issues at all, and the course was easy to follow with nice flow. Supposedly the rest of the tee signs are up now, so it should be even easier. The tee pads were a mix of wood, rubber, and concrete. All were nicely leveled, and provided perfectly fine footing. Most were plenty large, even for longer drives.
It is abundantly clear how much effort and love has gone into making this course, and it shows. This is by far the best private course I've played, and one of my favorites overall.
Cons: There's not too much to complain about here, but there were a couple minor things. The baskets were a mix of various portable baskets, many with added chains. They didn't catch quite as well as professional level baskets, though they certainly weren't a major issue.
The tee pads were mostly fine, but the mix of surfaces is a little hard to get used to. I'm also not entirely sure how well the footing would be on some of them when wet.
There were a few fairways that play right along one another, and the 18th hole throws right down at another fairway. If there are other players, keep your eyes open on these holes, and it won't be a big deal.
Other Thoughts: This course is challenging and fun, and is worth driving out of your way to play. It will test the accuracy of even experienced players, with poor tee shots punished on most holes. Beginners might find the course frustrating, and there are definitely places to lose discs, so this course might be better for players who are ready for this type of challenge.
The course can be a little hard to find, but if you call ahead the course owner is very helpful. The $5 donation is more than worth it for a fantastic course, so don't let that keep you away.
18 of 18 people found this review helpful.
8 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: It's an absolutely beautiful course. Great use of terrain. Some of the most unique shots in the world. Have you ever had a teepad on a 7 foot rock? I didn't think so. Have you ever had to throw a righty hyzer around a school bus? That's just two examples that you will rarely see in this world. Previous reviewers have said no tee signs but they are now up and the course flows magnificently. The only possible back up is number 3 because I've personly witnessed a triple circle eleven. Another thing is on more days than not Howie would be more than welcome to show a new comer around the course. Also previously reviewers have commented on the rubber teepads but I've talked to howie about it and he said with the terrain he said concrete teepads can get ruined easily due to the ground so he said he can always move a rubber one that suits the point in time. I encourage you all to come play because howie has but in years and money out of his pocket to make this a championship caliber course.
Cons: There are really no cons except the single chain baskets don't like my hyzer putting. But then again what's a good course you don't have to adapt too.
Other Thoughts: One of the greatest during tournaments for a few bucks his son will get in the creek for your frisbee.
8 of 11 people found this review helpful.
14 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Holler In The Hills is an amazing disc golf course, a nice addition to the BG area. The course provides a challenging layout that is built on land that was made for disc golf. My review is a bit lengthy, so I tried to break it down into sections.
The majority of the baskets are In-Step brand modified to have a second set of chains. There were a couple of Innova DISCatcher Sports and one other brand that I did not recognize. Most of the baskets are in great shape, only a couple had some rust on the chains. Hole 1 and Hole 3 have concrete tee pads, the rest of the holes use rubber or wooden tee pads. All tee pads are level, and the rubber pads are secured to wood frames. I was concerned initially about the rubber pads, but they were textured and provided good grip (dry conditions). There are alternate tees/drop areas on a few holes. There were tee signs on the first 8 holes, but none on the rest of the course. The available tee signs provide clear, accurate representations of the hole layout. Course navigation was pretty easy, even without a map, and next tee signs were posted as needed throughout the course.
Course Flow and Maintenance
The course flows well from hole to hole, and makes 2 9-hole loops. There are no crossing fairways, but there are 2 pairs of holes (3&4, 7&8) where the fairways run parallel in opposite directions, be aware of other golfers as you navigate these areas. The fairways are very well-defined and clearly marked. All questionable fairways and/or mandos are marked with ribbons or reflectors for clarity. The course maintenance, especially considering the terrain, is excellent. If you miss the fairway, you'll find quite a bit of foliage/underbrush, briars, etc. I do not consider this bad maintenance, the areas in play are very well-maintained, consider it a penalty for a bad shot. There are plenty of places where missing the fairway can easily add 1+ shots to your score. There are benches and trash receptacles appropriately placed throughout the course. Steps and bridges have been installed as necessary to help in navigating the course.
Course Layout and Hole Design
Holler in the Hills offers one of the best course layouts in the area. Hole design and pin placement are well thought-out, and strongly cater to the risk/reward strategy. Several pins are located near drop-offs, aggressive putting/approach shots could easily put you in the creek (Hole2/Hole3), or down the hill (Hole 7, 9, 11, 12, 14, 16, 17). Elevation changes on this course are amazing and are used to create some really great golf shots. Don't be deceived by some of the posted distances on these holes, especially on Hole9, 11, and 12, these holes play up the hill, and play much longer than they really are. Once you reach the peak of the hill, there are a couple of really great shots back down the hill (Hole16/Hole18). There is a nice variety in shot types and hole lengths throughout the course. You have to play the course to appreciate the elevations, the pictures are great, but don't even come close to portraying the severe ups and downs of Holler in the Hills.
Camping and portable toilets are available. Parking is sufficient for casual play, an over-flow area is used for tournaments.
There are several really great holes at this course (I'll mention a few), many which stuck out as some of the nicest and most unique holes that I've every played. The long par4 3rd hole features a large tree wall with a 40ft gap near the edge of the creek. Once you clear or go around the tree gap, the basket is located another 400+ft back into the trees with the creek bordering the right-hand side of the green. Hole12, a nice and long uphill shot to a basket positioned on the top of a 10ft boulder. The hole only measures 260ft, but it would really take a big throw to get up the hill to the basket. Miss the putt, and your back down at the base of the boulder, if you don't roll back down the hill. Hole14, you literally stand on the top of a boulder, and throw to a basket 150ft away positioned on top of another boulder, very unique feature and great hole. Hole15, a sharp left to right shot with the basket tucked behind a natural rock wall formation, beautiful hole and placement. Hole17, serious "wow" factor when you step up to the tee, basket straight across from the tee, but you are throwing over a ravine, I'm guessing it drops down 100ft, and back up, pictures definitely don't capture how amazing this hole truely is.
Cons: The following are for info only (does not affect the rating): The rubber tee pads were fine because the conditions were dry. A couple of the holes still had some residual moisture from the light rain, and the rubber pads that were wet were a little slick (one of the cons of rubber tee pads). Some of the steeper elevations willl be difficult to navigate in wet conditions. Lots of insects and such outside of the fairway, wear some repellant and keep an eye out for ticks, spiders, snakes, etc...
Other Thoughts: Holler in the Hills is a fantastic course that is well-designed, visually appealing, challenging (but fair), and a lot of fun to play. It is obvious that the owner (Howard Baird) has put a lot of effort into this course, and his efforts have paid off. The result is one of the finest courses in the area. I had a great experience at the course. Mr. Baird even came out to the course to make sure that we were finding our way around okay, and to welcome us to the course, very cool. The course is a little out of the way, but definitely worth the trip out to play. This course is the newest addition to my "Favorites" list!
14 of 14 people found this review helpful.
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