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Hole #4 (Taken 6/2011)
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Reviews: 12
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Enjoyable course!
Pros: Nice mix of shots. Varying hole lengths had me throwing anything from a midrange to my longest driver. Very good use of the terrain throughout.
Very friendly and helpful locals. There was a small tourney going on when my group showed up and the locals were happy to tell us all about the course, explain tricky transitions, and provide scorecards.
Very friendly and helpful locals. There was a small tourney going on when my group showed up and the locals were happy to tell us all about the course, explain tricky transitions, and provide scorecards.
Cons: Parts of the course seemed like they were pretty freshly cut and could use some work to get them in tiptop shape. I think once this course has had a few more years to get beat in, the rating will go up a bit.
I played whites on the advice of some locals and the course played pretty easy for me. I'm not used to shooting -2 on any course the first time I play it.
I played whites on the advice of some locals and the course played pretty easy for me. I'm not used to shooting -2 on any course the first time I play it.
Other Thoughts: I've read that parts of this course are flood prone. When I was there, this area was in the middle of a drought and the entire course played fine.
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It's like 2 different courses 
Pros: -Great condition, you get the feeling its a quiet place that doesn't have too many vandals or troublemakers.
-Neat elevation changes on the front nine get you started with a bang.
-Cool scenery. River Raisin twists and turns alongside two holes, with beaver dams and sandbars giving neat scenery. Hole 11 approaching the river has some particularly picturesque trees in the depression containing the basket. You peer out over a wetlands area behind the hole 2 basket and wish they had a budget to put a hole there and allow you to huck off this magnificent hill. Then you go back to hole 3 and toss around a huge mound that begs the safari hole to 4 from the top. Still the hillsides play well.
-A lot of risk/reward opportunities. Do you take the big hyzer around the trees or the window they offer you? Hole 5 provided my favorite window of the course off the tee, forcing you to choose between a gigantic anhyzer or cutting under this low ceiling between evergreens.
-Room to stretch your arms. While there are technical shots, if you need to let loose bombs to feel like a proper day at the course, there's enough holes with good distance to get that. It has some spacious fairways, so you can just enjoy watching that glide.
-Wildlife. Frogs were abundant and chirping, and huge cranes overhead. I can't guarantee they'll show up when you're there, but I wouldn't be surprised.
-Friendly locals. We encountered two separate groups here who made conversation, one providing a map, and everyone eager to know how we were enjoying our round. The townsfolk off the course were unusually hospitable as well.
-Neat elevation changes on the front nine get you started with a bang.
-Cool scenery. River Raisin twists and turns alongside two holes, with beaver dams and sandbars giving neat scenery. Hole 11 approaching the river has some particularly picturesque trees in the depression containing the basket. You peer out over a wetlands area behind the hole 2 basket and wish they had a budget to put a hole there and allow you to huck off this magnificent hill. Then you go back to hole 3 and toss around a huge mound that begs the safari hole to 4 from the top. Still the hillsides play well.
-A lot of risk/reward opportunities. Do you take the big hyzer around the trees or the window they offer you? Hole 5 provided my favorite window of the course off the tee, forcing you to choose between a gigantic anhyzer or cutting under this low ceiling between evergreens.
-Room to stretch your arms. While there are technical shots, if you need to let loose bombs to feel like a proper day at the course, there's enough holes with good distance to get that. It has some spacious fairways, so you can just enjoy watching that glide.
-Wildlife. Frogs were abundant and chirping, and huge cranes overhead. I can't guarantee they'll show up when you're there, but I wouldn't be surprised.
-Friendly locals. We encountered two separate groups here who made conversation, one providing a map, and everyone eager to know how we were enjoying our round. The townsfolk off the course were unusually hospitable as well.
Cons: -The end of the course just doesn't measure up to the beginning. Where you start off with elevation and finesse, you finish with flat and wide. And wet. I was told it dries out, but there was a good portion of the last few holes that was not quite water hazard, but bog hazard. The bugs will not be good there later on when it is wet, so pay attention to the weather if you care about that sort of thing.
-Wicked thorns. There's some plants at some spots that had spines on their spines. Watch yourself.
-Dirt tees. They were in okay condition today, but will likely be worse later in the season and when wet.
-Navigation isn't the most intuitive, but the first 10 are easy enough without a map, as the numbers are on the baskets and most tees. There are a few holes where you can't see the basket from the tee, and you will likely need to spend a few minutes scouting to make sure the basket is where you think it is. It probably will be. Still, this could definitely be improved.
-Wicked thorns. There's some plants at some spots that had spines on their spines. Watch yourself.
-Dirt tees. They were in okay condition today, but will likely be worse later in the season and when wet.
-Navigation isn't the most intuitive, but the first 10 are easy enough without a map, as the numbers are on the baskets and most tees. There are a few holes where you can't see the basket from the tee, and you will likely need to spend a few minutes scouting to make sure the basket is where you think it is. It probably will be. Still, this could definitely be improved.
Other Thoughts: I really enjoyed this course at first. If the back continued to live up to the promise of the beginning, and there were concrete tees and consistent drainage, this course would be a 4.5. Unfortunately, there's a pretty large section of uninteresting land prone to wetness between the hills and the river. There's no real way around it, and the awesomeness of the river holes justifies sending you down there, especially with the soccer fields in the other direction, but it definitely peters out. Hole 18 tries to bring it back with an island green of sorts and some trees on the left, and to some extend succeeds, but overall its not quite enough to make this a course to go out of my way for. Which is a shame, because it _is_ out of my way, and I'd sure like to throw those first 13 again.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Pros: This course is in a nice park with good terrain for a course. It has some hills, drop offs, some flat holes and a river. The course has very good shot variation and the long tees give you completely different shots on a lot of the holes. The front 9 and back 9 are like two completely different course, with the front 9 being hilly with a lot of trees, and the back 9 is pretty wide open with long holes and the river running by a few. The course as a whole and the holes individually are nicely designed. This course is also never crowded. It's a pretty long course.
Cons: The course doesn't have good signs, just a colored poll in the ground. The course can be tough to navigate you're first time there. The tee pads are dirt, but they don't bother me.This course also has very thick rough off of the fairways. and floods in the spring. The bugs can also be bad on some holes.
Other Thoughts: This is my home course and I love playing it. Although it doesn't have good signs or tees, the holes themselves make up for it. It's just a fun course to play. For those with big arms this course also has some good long holes to let it fly.
2 of 3 people found this review helpful.
It's all about the Disc Golf - bring your walking shoes 
Pros: Only 18 hole course within 25 miles. Features shot variety: Long /short, left/right, long, bomber fairways lined with tall (disc swallowing) grass, some open holes spotted with strategically placed trees, a couple of wooded holes, and some elevation changes make for an interesting round of golf. Top off with a few blind holes, sprinkle in some others where you can see the basket from the tee if someone points it out to you, and you have a pretty complete course that makes for interesting play.
- Good use of local topography: hills, valleys, drop offs, dips, river, trees, clearings in brush, etc.
- Dual tees give different looks on some holes, while only adding more distance on others.
- Clean park, well defined mowed fairways, good baskets.
- Ninth hole returns to parking lot.
- Grass/dirt tee pads were OK by me. Concrete would be an improvement, but I never thought the tee surface was an issue. Besides, pouring concrete isn't where $$ should be spent on this course.
- Good use of local topography: hills, valleys, drop offs, dips, river, trees, clearings in brush, etc.
- Dual tees give different looks on some holes, while only adding more distance on others.
- Clean park, well defined mowed fairways, good baskets.
- Ninth hole returns to parking lot.
- Grass/dirt tee pads were OK by me. Concrete would be an improvement, but I never thought the tee surface was an issue. Besides, pouring concrete isn't where $$ should be spent on this course.
Cons: Course could really be a winner with some work:
- Message board could really use a course map.
- Navigation was horrible, good thing I ran into some cool locals.
- Hole design was quite good, but course layout is tough to follow and illogical in places, (see Other Thoughts).
- Thick and nasty brush on some holes can make you pay dearly for bad throws.
- Extra eyes help on this course, so bring a friend or two. You'll probably lose a disc playing solo.
- You have throw across a road in a few spots - but there's not much traffic..
- Never seen a course that could benefit more from decent tee signs/posts with distance & hole map (even a basic line drawing), next tee signs, etc
- Message board could really use a course map.
- Navigation was horrible, good thing I ran into some cool locals.
- Hole design was quite good, but course layout is tough to follow and illogical in places, (see Other Thoughts).
- Thick and nasty brush on some holes can make you pay dearly for bad throws.
- Extra eyes help on this course, so bring a friend or two. You'll probably lose a disc playing solo.
- You have throw across a road in a few spots - but there's not much traffic..
- Never seen a course that could benefit more from decent tee signs/posts with distance & hole map (even a basic line drawing), next tee signs, etc
Other Thoughts: IMPORTANT TO NOTE: Local score card says "Alcohol not permitted." No clue if it's enforced, just thought you should know.
Dry when I played and the disc golf itself was very good, but I can see how this place would take more than a day to dry out after a soaking. Locals said it's messy after the spring thaw and April showers.
Would have been nice to make better use of the river, but locals told me the land on the other side is owned by someone.
Reading other reviews for this course, it seems opinions differ regarding navigation and course layout. I'll go on record as saying "course layout sucks, but the golf is good." Maybe designers simply "saw" some good holes they thought would play well on their own, but don't necessarily flow well from one to the other as a group, thereby sacrificing navigation and logical course layout for the sake of good disc play. Never got sense that the course flowed well from hole to hole: found the layout tough to follow in spots, and almost random at times. But I found most of the holes themselves to be interesting, well thought out and inviting. You can find the the white and blue markers easily enough, but often, the baskets you can see from them aren't the intended hole. Before I ran into some locals, I actually played from the 11th tee to the 17th basket (it seemed like a decent hole). Holes 6 through 10 play around an open field scattered with trees, and standing at tee 7, it simply isn't obvious what you're shooting for. I don't normally bag a rating too hard for stuff like tee markers, etc, but they can aid in navigation and I would bump the rating from 3.0 to a 4.0 if they get that squared away nicely.
Between course layout, and searching for discs in tall grass or thick brush, plan on spending some time here your first time out. Definitely worth it if you don't mind those inconveniences (or the drive).
Dry when I played and the disc golf itself was very good, but I can see how this place would take more than a day to dry out after a soaking. Locals said it's messy after the spring thaw and April showers.
Would have been nice to make better use of the river, but locals told me the land on the other side is owned by someone.
Reading other reviews for this course, it seems opinions differ regarding navigation and course layout. I'll go on record as saying "course layout sucks, but the golf is good." Maybe designers simply "saw" some good holes they thought would play well on their own, but don't necessarily flow well from one to the other as a group, thereby sacrificing navigation and logical course layout for the sake of good disc play. Never got sense that the course flowed well from hole to hole: found the layout tough to follow in spots, and almost random at times. But I found most of the holes themselves to be interesting, well thought out and inviting. You can find the the white and blue markers easily enough, but often, the baskets you can see from them aren't the intended hole. Before I ran into some locals, I actually played from the 11th tee to the 17th basket (it seemed like a decent hole). Holes 6 through 10 play around an open field scattered with trees, and standing at tee 7, it simply isn't obvious what you're shooting for. I don't normally bag a rating too hard for stuff like tee markers, etc, but they can aid in navigation and I would bump the rating from 3.0 to a 4.0 if they get that squared away nicely.
Between course layout, and searching for discs in tall grass or thick brush, plan on spending some time here your first time out. Definitely worth it if you don't mind those inconveniences (or the drive).
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Great potential
Pros: Great Open drives, good placement is crucial. Played early in the afternoon with little foot traffic so there was no waiting with helpfull guidance from a local and a little exploration the course is designed fairly well.
Cons: Going early in the springtime and after a rainy week is not a good idea. Flooding everywhere after hole 9 and thick thorns and brush on both sides to the pin. Also on the tee posts it would be helpful for a hole map and distance.
Other Thoughts: With some slight changes in hole direction and a little better upkeep this course would be a great play for anyone amatuer to pro.
2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
Pros: Great mix of different types of shots. Many holes seemed to me to be a great test for big arms with huge drives. At the same time there was extremely tall brush on the sides of the fairways which demanded accuracy also.
Course pretty well marked with a post on every tee.
Great use of elevation, and other natural obstacles.
Course locals were extremely friendly.
Chain Star baskets on every hole.
Pro/Am Tees for every hole. Pro tees didn't just create a longer drive but a completely different shot on most holes.
Park completely free of garbage and vandalism.
Course offers option of playing only Front 9, Only Back 9, or all 18.
Course pretty well marked with a post on every tee.
Great use of elevation, and other natural obstacles.
Course locals were extremely friendly.
Chain Star baskets on every hole.
Pro/Am Tees for every hole. Pro tees didn't just create a longer drive but a completely different shot on most holes.
Park completely free of garbage and vandalism.
Course offers option of playing only Front 9, Only Back 9, or all 18.
Cons: Not to many cons to speak of on this course.
The only minor improvements I could see that this course could use may be a few more benches around the park, and signs marking the holes, but they had posts up and you could tell signs may be coming soon, so I guess it is not really a con.
Grass tees, with corners marked with spray paint.
The only minor improvements I could see that this course could use may be a few more benches around the park, and signs marking the holes, but they had posts up and you could tell signs may be coming soon, so I guess it is not really a con.
Grass tees, with corners marked with spray paint.
Other Thoughts: We played Am tees first then Pro Tees, a Local was extremely friendly and played our AM Tee round with us to show us all the pin placements, and tees. All the people we came across were extremely friendly.
2 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Awesome Locals, Clean Care Free Fun
Pros: My group of three met the most welcoming and cool locals I've ever encountered (played over twenty in state). They even sent a guide up for our first round. Perfect baskets, many with hills behind. Clearly mowed fairways. Multiple tees create different shots, not just longer. Possibly the cleanest course, no vandalism, no litter. Wind effects a couple holes and overall keeps bugs down. Painted posts.
Cons: Grass tees. I'll list navigation but if you bring a map or are used to navigating courses it shouldn't be a problem. Hole one across street of posting board. I would suggest Painting one arm of the basket to point to the next tee and number the posts better.
Other Thoughts: I played both sets of tees. Ams first.
CATEGORY 1: 2.5/5
Baskets: 5/5 Excellent shape chainstars.
Tee pads: 1/5 Level grass with spay painted
corners.
Signs: 2/5 Painted post with marker numbers.
CATEGORY 2: 3.5/5
Design: 4/5 Plays quickly, view of the parking
more than twice.
Foliage: 3/5 Defined mowed fairways. Brush can
be tall.
Benches: 2.5/5 Two tables across from hole 1,
one bench with back on course. All are
graffiti free.
Trash: 5/5 Multiple empty large cans. No litter,
not even ciggarette butts.
CATEGORY 3: 4/5
Elevation: 3.5/5 Creative use of bowls and hills.
Epic holes: 3/5 Some really nice ones, not great.
Shot Variety: 4/5 Left, right, and open to woods.
Shot mix: 4.5/5 Open, technical, short, and long.
All nicely spread throughout.
Challenge: 3.5/5 Multiple tees well planed.
Restrooms: Available in summer -Didnt use.
Water/food: 4/5 Running spicket, not at hole 1.
Bakery/gas station at enterance.
Crowded: 5/5 No waiting.
Dog friendly: 4.5/5 Open with little traffic.
Scenic: 3.5/5 Classic Michigan. Red barn visable.
Local Attitude: 5/5 Nicest I've encountered. Very
helpful.
CATEGORY 1: 2.5/5
Baskets: 5/5 Excellent shape chainstars.
Tee pads: 1/5 Level grass with spay painted
corners.
Signs: 2/5 Painted post with marker numbers.
CATEGORY 2: 3.5/5
Design: 4/5 Plays quickly, view of the parking
more than twice.
Foliage: 3/5 Defined mowed fairways. Brush can
be tall.
Benches: 2.5/5 Two tables across from hole 1,
one bench with back on course. All are
graffiti free.
Trash: 5/5 Multiple empty large cans. No litter,
not even ciggarette butts.
CATEGORY 3: 4/5
Elevation: 3.5/5 Creative use of bowls and hills.
Epic holes: 3/5 Some really nice ones, not great.
Shot Variety: 4/5 Left, right, and open to woods.
Shot mix: 4.5/5 Open, technical, short, and long.
All nicely spread throughout.
Challenge: 3.5/5 Multiple tees well planed.
Restrooms: Available in summer -Didnt use.
Water/food: 4/5 Running spicket, not at hole 1.
Bakery/gas station at enterance.
Crowded: 5/5 No waiting.
Dog friendly: 4.5/5 Open with little traffic.
Scenic: 3.5/5 Classic Michigan. Red barn visable.
Local Attitude: 5/5 Nicest I've encountered. Very
helpful.
5 of 6 people found this review helpful.
Meh 
2-4 
6/26/2009 
6/28/2009
Review By: bygwyllay 
Played: 69 Reviewed: 69 Exp: 6.1 Years
This review was updated on 9/20/2009
Pros: Good variety of holes in length, elevation, and terrain. Baskets are marked. Extremely low vandalism. Play from the white stakes; the blues are ridiculous.
**update**
Really only the first hole is in heavy woods. Everything else is either in a field or a clearing with some aged trees as obstacles. Hole #2s basket has been moved back about 75 feet into the woods, with a big cliff as a backdrop. A nice change to make it more challenging.
**update**
Really only the first hole is in heavy woods. Everything else is either in a field or a clearing with some aged trees as obstacles. Hole #2s basket has been moved back about 75 feet into the woods, with a big cliff as a backdrop. A nice change to make it more challenging.
Cons: On playing through, I got to wondering, "who actually thought it would be a good idea to build a course here?" Very unkempt, helter-skelter feel to the holes. For example, the first hole is in the woods, with a small dirt path heading up a hill to the basket, with dense foliage throughout. It was very rough. Everything off the fairway has prickers or thorns; extremely unfriendly plants. The back nine is flooded out when the River Raisin rises above its banks. When it does, the baskets are completely submerged. Anywhere off the fairway and your shoes are getting muddy.
**update**
i played through again over labor day weekend and it had not rained in about two weeks. this course was a lot more fun than my first time through because of it. The terrain was dry and the field in which the last five baskets are in, which means the mosquito cesspool did not exist. would recommend if it hasn't rained in a while.
**update**
i played through again over labor day weekend and it had not rained in about two weeks. this course was a lot more fun than my first time through because of it. The terrain was dry and the field in which the last five baskets are in, which means the mosquito cesspool did not exist. would recommend if it hasn't rained in a while.
Other Thoughts: You definitely need a guide to play this course your first time through. Luckily a local showed up as we were getting ready to tee off, so he took us through. Would not recommend trying to play without a guide. Regardless, this is the best course in Adrian, but I will never play here again.
**update**
OK, so I lied. I played here again. What do you want from me? I heart DG.
**update**
OK, so I lied. I played here again. What do you want from me? I heart DG.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Best Course in Adrian, But That's Not Saying Much... 
2-4 7/6/2008 6/10/2009
Review By: jhgonzo Played: 75 Reviewed: 42 Exp: 15 Years
This review was updated on 6/14/2010
Pros: 1. Good use of the existing land features (Raisin River, slight elevation, some woods).
2. Some variety. There are a couple wooded holes on the Front 9 that add the most enjoyment to this course. The Back 9 features some opportunities for big bomber drives.
3. Maintenance is pretty "up to par" out here, as the park gets decent use for other on-site activities.
4. Dual tees. Always a nice option, especially if you're a local and don't want to play the same course repeatedly.
2. Some variety. There are a couple wooded holes on the Front 9 that add the most enjoyment to this course. The Back 9 features some opportunities for big bomber drives.
3. Maintenance is pretty "up to par" out here, as the park gets decent use for other on-site activities.
4. Dual tees. Always a nice option, especially if you're a local and don't want to play the same course repeatedly.
Cons: 1. Too many open holes with few obstacles. The longest hole out here, if I remember correctly, was just an open field with literally no obstacles...come on, give me SOMETHING in the way of risk/reward!
2. It would be nice to see the Raisin River utilized on some more holes, but given the wide floodplain in the surrounding area (when the river is up, it literally swallows most of the playable area on the Back 9...play at your own risk!).
3. Tee signs? Where are they? At least, where were they when I played? Adrian's kind of a dumpy little town in my opinion, so it wouldn't suprise me to hear that there WERE signs out here at one point that got jacked or vandalized by the numerous redneck and/or "gangsta" kids overrunning this town. A course directory would also be nice...
2. It would be nice to see the Raisin River utilized on some more holes, but given the wide floodplain in the surrounding area (when the river is up, it literally swallows most of the playable area on the Back 9...play at your own risk!).
3. Tee signs? Where are they? At least, where were they when I played? Adrian's kind of a dumpy little town in my opinion, so it wouldn't suprise me to hear that there WERE signs out here at one point that got jacked or vandalized by the numerous redneck and/or "gangsta" kids overrunning this town. A course directory would also be nice...
Other Thoughts: I'll probably go back here and play again, since my wife's family lives in Adrian and we frequently visit, but I'd only return because the other "courses" (9-holers) in Adrian don't seem to stay in the ground due to vandalism, etc. It'd be nice to see the community get more involved in taking care of their courses, but it's not like this is the only city where this happens. I'd imagine that, given the demise of the other area courses, it's tough to get sponsors to pay for new holes/improvements/additions.
3 of 4 people found this review helpful.
Updated Course
Pros: Nice course front nine is fun to play at any skill level and is challenging from the long tees, back 9 is longer than front 9 and is more open for big arms.Course has pretty much no waiting and is free to play which is great
Cons: When it rains hard back 10,11,12,13,14,15 gets flooded
Other Thoughts: Course has been changed somewhat, there are new tee signs going up soon if not already and there has been talk about expanding to 24 holes
1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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