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Hole #12 (Taken 6/2010)
Hole #12 (Taken 6/2010) 
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Soon to be Rochester's Finest, Now it is.
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6/25/2010 
9/10/2010
Review By: roclover Played: 125 Reviewed: 8 Exp: 4 Years
This review was updated on 9/1/2011
Pros: Diversity in hole length, look, elevation, and obstacles.
Holes that can actually play as legit tournament Par 4's!! (Huge bonus)
Nice long concrete pads. Very nice baskets.
Excellent mix of shots... uphill, downhill, water hazards, hyzer, anhyzer, flex, even some places for thumbers, tomahawks and rollers.
Beautifully maintained and mowed fairways, and creative and well placed pins.
Holes that can actually play as legit tournament Par 4's!! (Huge bonus)
Nice long concrete pads. Very nice baskets.
Excellent mix of shots... uphill, downhill, water hazards, hyzer, anhyzer, flex, even some places for thumbers, tomahawks and rollers.
Beautifully maintained and mowed fairways, and creative and well placed pins.
Cons: No sign-age that I could see, and the map I picked up was wrong.
Awkward navigation between a few holes (especially 1 to 2 and 6 to 7 if I remember correctly)
Some of the rough contains some nasty prickers that cut up my friend pretty badly when he tried to retrieve an errant shot.
Awkward navigation between a few holes (especially 1 to 2 and 6 to 7 if I remember correctly)
Some of the rough contains some nasty prickers that cut up my friend pretty badly when he tried to retrieve an errant shot.
Other Thoughts: This course is extremely well balanced. One of my biggest complaints about most courses is that I always end up throwing a Roc, Gator or Rhyno off the tee. As someone who throws to lengths of 325' with a midrange 450' with a driver I often don't get to bust out the Teebird and Boss as much as I'd like to.
Right away on hole 1 I got to drive a nice 350' hyzer skip shot for an easy deuce. Hole 2 and 3 where then a nice change of pace with much shorter distances but very tight lines to follow allowing me to throw a Roc and then a Rhyno off the tee. 4 and 5 were big time highlights for me on this course. 4 is a huge 700 ft bomb that requires an accurate drive of about 430' across a mostly open field to get to the opening of the woods. Once in the woods you still have a very tight 270' to get to the well protected and perched basket. I managed a 3 on this with a Boss, Roc and 40' jump put, though I know that I just as easily could've ended up with a 5. All it would take is one slight miscalculation. #5 is the standout hole on this course in my mind... A par 4 that depends on both finesse and accurate power to achieve a birdie. RHBH (like myself) will be forced to throw a controlled 200' anhyzer on a tight line to clear through the first section of woods. If you succeed at that you still have a difficult shot across a field with scattered obstacles and down a slight hill and to the right, tucked among trees and thorns (but with a nice 30' landing zone) is the basket. I attempted a Roc anhyzer for my second shot, but left it short, missed a 30 ft putt and took a par. Next time I think I would actually play my second shot as a Teebird skip shot (RHFH) to get it down and to the right far enough.
There are other amazing holes and fun holes at this course, but I definitely enjoyed 4 and 5 the most. As Rochester continues to get ready for AM Worlds 2011 I assume signs will go up and this course will get better and better. With a little more work This course will be a 4.5 possibly a 5.0.
UPDATE!!! Played the course after it had been all fixed up with signage for AM Worlds and it was fantastic. This is now a MUST PLAY for anyone going through the area.
Right away on hole 1 I got to drive a nice 350' hyzer skip shot for an easy deuce. Hole 2 and 3 where then a nice change of pace with much shorter distances but very tight lines to follow allowing me to throw a Roc and then a Rhyno off the tee. 4 and 5 were big time highlights for me on this course. 4 is a huge 700 ft bomb that requires an accurate drive of about 430' across a mostly open field to get to the opening of the woods. Once in the woods you still have a very tight 270' to get to the well protected and perched basket. I managed a 3 on this with a Boss, Roc and 40' jump put, though I know that I just as easily could've ended up with a 5. All it would take is one slight miscalculation. #5 is the standout hole on this course in my mind... A par 4 that depends on both finesse and accurate power to achieve a birdie. RHBH (like myself) will be forced to throw a controlled 200' anhyzer on a tight line to clear through the first section of woods. If you succeed at that you still have a difficult shot across a field with scattered obstacles and down a slight hill and to the right, tucked among trees and thorns (but with a nice 30' landing zone) is the basket. I attempted a Roc anhyzer for my second shot, but left it short, missed a 30 ft putt and took a par. Next time I think I would actually play my second shot as a Teebird skip shot (RHFH) to get it down and to the right far enough.
There are other amazing holes and fun holes at this course, but I definitely enjoyed 4 and 5 the most. As Rochester continues to get ready for AM Worlds 2011 I assume signs will go up and this course will get better and better. With a little more work This course will be a 4.5 possibly a 5.0.
UPDATE!!! Played the course after it had been all fixed up with signage for AM Worlds and it was fantastic. This is now a MUST PLAY for anyone going through the area.
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In preparation for 2011 Am Worlds..life is good 
Pros: Great tee pads, fantastic variety of shots, beautiful scenery, always perfectly mowed.
Any time a vandal breaks something this place is nearly immediately fixed.
this course i loved, and keeps better better. There's something for everybody. There are only a few spots on the course that have elevation changes and you spend a goof chunk of your time weaving back and forth across those areas to get the most out of it.
Any time a vandal breaks something this place is nearly immediately fixed.
this course i loved, and keeps better better. There's something for everybody. There are only a few spots on the course that have elevation changes and you spend a goof chunk of your time weaving back and forth across those areas to get the most out of it.
Cons:
This place NEEDS SIGNS. I'll give this an extra .5 rating when it gets them. Here's why:
The only real problem this course has is that until you know where the tee pads are, it's really hard to navigate.
Part of this comes from the fact that they had to remove Old Hole 2 from casual play via the VFW's request. It makes sense if you know the story...but I don't think golfers were warned adequately (how about posting a sign on the board?) and when the new rules weren't followed the town said to take it out.
Now you have to walk backwards from the basket on one, past old 2's basket to current 2's tee...If you'd never played there before you'd walk to hole 4's tee and assume that you're shooting towards the basket that you can see...you're not. That's hole 7's basket..you need to shoot down the fairway and hook left into the woods.
And also the new hole 11 (fantastic addition btw) is an entirely different route than it used to be on the old layout and different from the initial new layout...once you finish 10 go left and left until you see the new hole...then follow the deer grass along the woods to the right.
"short" tees are either missing or hard to see/find on most hole
This place NEEDS SIGNS. I'll give this an extra .5 rating when it gets them. Here's why:
The only real problem this course has is that until you know where the tee pads are, it's really hard to navigate.
Part of this comes from the fact that they had to remove Old Hole 2 from casual play via the VFW's request. It makes sense if you know the story...but I don't think golfers were warned adequately (how about posting a sign on the board?) and when the new rules weren't followed the town said to take it out.
Now you have to walk backwards from the basket on one, past old 2's basket to current 2's tee...If you'd never played there before you'd walk to hole 4's tee and assume that you're shooting towards the basket that you can see...you're not. That's hole 7's basket..you need to shoot down the fairway and hook left into the woods.
And also the new hole 11 (fantastic addition btw) is an entirely different route than it used to be on the old layout and different from the initial new layout...once you finish 10 go left and left until you see the new hole...then follow the deer grass along the woods to the right.
"short" tees are either missing or hard to see/find on most hole
Other Thoughts: Parma will be getting better over the next year as fairways get trimmed up (on the new holes) and basket placements get a little more permanent. Hole 5 currently has an "unfairway" but it's the same for everybody so it's kind of a moot point.
With a little more TLC, and some signage, and proper "shorts" I will eventually give parma a 4.5 disc rating. It's rochester's crown jewel and it really is awesome.
With a little more TLC, and some signage, and proper "shorts" I will eventually give parma a 4.5 disc rating. It's rochester's crown jewel and it really is awesome.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Great new course
Pros: Nice combination of open and wooded holes. Lots of "signature" holes, and a wide variety of right/left straight holes. The teepads are concrete and some of them are the longest I've ever seen. This is the best place around to show your stuff as each hole offers a variety of flight paths and routes. Players with strong forehand/backhand/tomahawk/thumber combinations could probably put together good rounds here.
Cons: BUGS were pretty bad, and the PRICKERS were the worst I've seen. Watch for big bushes in the fairways as these are almost completely covered in prickers. Can make retreiving a disc rather difficult.
Other Thoughts: This is in close vacinity to Baker Farm or Basil Park so you can squeeze in 2-3 rounds to make a road trip worth it.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Pros: The holes in the woods are awesome. Great use of elevation and small stream. Cement tee pads are wonderful.
Cons: Navigating the course was very confusing! It's a long walk from the basket to the next tee in some spots and there's no indication of where to go. We wasted at least 30 minutes just trying to find our way around. I'm not too crazy about some of the holes that are out in the open but I suppose the variety is good.
Other Thoughts: I'm certainly going to play this course again. Finding my way around will hopefully be less frustrating having done it once already.
*** Regarding the map: the one on grdgc.org is NOT up to date. Get the map from here on dgcoursereview! ***
*** Regarding the map: the one on grdgc.org is NOT up to date. Get the map from here on dgcoursereview! ***
2 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Great just got better 
Pros: Utilizes landscaping and elevation changes to it's maximum potential. I thought the old course was one of the most aesthetically pleasing courses, but the new layout improved the courses beauty even more.
The landscaping is very well maintained.
Great variety of holes and challenges.
Nice small town course that has become a hidden gem.
New large concrete tee pads.
All of the changes improved the course, I thought I would miss the old hole 2, but all of the new holes are better than that hole.
The landscaping is very well maintained.
Great variety of holes and challenges.
Nice small town course that has become a hidden gem.
New large concrete tee pads.
All of the changes improved the course, I thought I would miss the old hole 2, but all of the new holes are better than that hole.
Cons: The only real con is navigation. There are no tee signs and no navigational signs. You have to have a guide the first time playing here or you will get frustrated.
Other Thoughts: With arrows pointing to the next tee and some decent tee signs this would have been a 5 star course.
Course had to sacrifice some beginner friendliness to create a more challenging course suitable for tournaments.
Porto-potty at hole 1.
Baker and Ellison are great, but I think Parma may have surpassed them as Rochester's best course!
Course had to sacrifice some beginner friendliness to create a more challenging course suitable for tournaments.
Porto-potty at hole 1.
Baker and Ellison are great, but I think Parma may have surpassed them as Rochester's best course!
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
Great Course Just got Better
Pros: The new concrete tee pads are nice they are all a good length too. The course still has a great mix of elevation. They took out three of my least fav. holes where you play three in a row with the woods to your left. Those are gone and they replaced them with holes that are more thought out and use the terrain to their advantage.
Cons: The bugs can get a lot much! Im also sure that the entire course is made out of prickers. The last thing is this course is now highly challenging witch can make it highly addictive. Since it opened two weeks ago i've played it almost every day.
Other Thoughts: This is a great course that has just gotten better. I know if you have read my last review of this course i still gave it a 4.5 i think i was misstaken. This new version of parma or NP as i now like to call it, has showed me what a 4.5 should be.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Good fun
Pros: New concrete tee pads, are in and done very well. Some new pin placement has changed the map of the course, so to get the current one, go to Rochester disc golf club page, and download the color map, which seems to be up to date. Short drive from Rochester. Good variety of holes, open and wooded. Well maintained grounds. A must play.
Cons: Bugs! Some signage would help a great deal for first timers, although the map is pretty good.
Other Thoughts: My new favorite course in the Rochester area.
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
5+ 3/20/2010 3/22/2010
Review By: LakeBodom397 Played: 34 Reviewed: 15 Exp: 4.7 Years
This review was updated on 6/18/2010
Pros: excellent mix of holes. long, short, open, wooded, uphill, downhill, left, right.
home to some very cool holes such as hole #7 which drives steep uphill which is great for tomahawks and rollers, hole #9, starts high and drives down through a small opening over a creek, hole #10 which drives through a small valley.
baskets remain in year round, very fun course to play in the winter.
brand new concrete and a new revamp is the icing on the cake.
home to some very cool holes such as hole #7 which drives steep uphill which is great for tomahawks and rollers, hole #9, starts high and drives down through a small opening over a creek, hole #10 which drives through a small valley.
baskets remain in year round, very fun course to play in the winter.
brand new concrete and a new revamp is the icing on the cake.
Cons: lots of bugs in the wooded areas especially in the summer months. definitely throw a can of bug spray in your bag for this time of year.
be careful of the rough areas. lots of pricker bushes throughout and some poison ivy in the woods.
can be very confusing for someone who has never played here before
be careful of the rough areas. lots of pricker bushes throughout and some poison ivy in the woods.
can be very confusing for someone who has never played here before
Other Thoughts: This course is a blast! lots of risk/reward opportunities.
With the revamp this is easily the most challenging course in the area.
Several other courses are within 20 minutes of here for a second round.
With the revamp this is easily the most challenging course in the area.
Several other courses are within 20 minutes of here for a second round.
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