0 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: Located close by. It's got a little something for every skill level. Great little walk through the woods.
Cons: Would like to see some upgrades made to the tee boxes. Replace the maps for pin placement.
Other Thoughts: If you haven't tried this course. I would definately reccomend it. Hope to see you out there.
0 of 4 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course plays through a large well-kept park with some mixed terrain. Some minor elevation changes come into play on several holes, and are used pretty well to add some interest and challenge. There's a decent mix of open and wooded shots, including a couple nice open holes with protected pin positions. The more technical shots have a good balance of right and left turning holes that require a complete set of shots to score well.
There is some distance variety here, nothing huge but there are a few longer holes that offer the chance for throwing drivers. Water comes into play with a pond and creek offering some decent risk/reward decisions. One hole offers the choice to lay up to the pond then throw across or go for the riskier potential deuce off the tee. The tees and baskets are in good shape, no real footing issues that I noticed. Signage at the tees is adequate, with hole length and layout.
Cons: Navigation is not good here, with some long walks that aren't marked at all. Make sure you have the map printed or pulled up on your phone if you don't want to spend a bunch of time wandering around. Hole 3 is a cool shot across the creek but it's a long walk to the bridge after you throw your drive.
There are a few places where the walking path is in play, and it seems like the park gets a lot of non-disc golf traffic. The tees were in ok shape when I played, but some showed signs of rutting out, they could get bad if not maintained.
Other Thoughts: Beginners will find this course tough with some moderately punishing rough in spots, but it's not so tough that newer players won't be able to have fun here. More experienced players will find some decent challenges and variety here. I enjoyed this course, and would recommend it if you're in the area.
1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
Good course variety, Could use a little redesigns
3 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: Good variety of shots needed to score well on this course, not really righty favored or lefty favored (balanced) ... except that two very short birdie holes (#s9, 14) have a slight righty advantage. I liked that there were tee shots that the righty FH flick anny was a better choice than the righty BH hyzer -- made the course more interesting. I didn't use it on #12 (played a layup and longer approach to get a 3), but next time I'll try that FH anny. (My second round we had a lefty and after he anhyzered for the best drive of the day, I realized that.) The protected baskets on #s4 and 9 should make you not take those birds for granted, so be aware. It was early winter so no reeds on #6 and pond was low, so the shot across was more like 285. #8 is a blind shot, I used a RHBH turnover both times so be sure to go very high and wide if that's your shot of choice. Saw others try lots of shots there aka thumbers, spike hyzers, RHFH.
On #10 a lot or reviewers thought it was tough to deuce; I had long deuce putts (45-60) both times by going midrange anny up and over the short trees on the left. The first one would have been parked but hit a low branch by the basket on the way in and rolled backward. I think you would need pretty good accuracy to go straight at it. #11 is a sick hole (see other reviews) -- at least one other option needs to be opened up. My suggestion would be to cut a reasonable opening above, then center the tee box to equalize for righty/lefty. #13 needs a huge RHBH skip shot, flick roller, or LHBH roller to get close, but the casual water was there when I played so deuces were basically out of the question. When playing for a safe 3, no need to use a driver. On #15 I got deep both times with a BH roller, first time was 75 feet away and nearly birdied on approach. I had practiced this one that morning and the S shot seemed tougher to me. #17 -- if you can't blast it over the tree line (like me) then be sure to finish to the left side of the opening to get a clear approach to the basket. #18 I didn't like the straight line to the basket at all. All risk -- if you get through it's a likely deuce, but if you don't, a sure 4. I played the layup through the right hand opening going around the OB water (along #17's fairway) for the easy 3.
Cons: Like others said -- no restrooms, and for a course in a neighborhood you really need them. I didn't see this course's woods having thick enough foliage to overcome the lack of restrooms. Troublesome designs on #s11, 12, & 18 which basically limit the thrower's options. The ace run holes (#s3, 9, & 14) are way too short if all three can be reached with a putter by an average disc golfer like myself.
Other Thoughts: I played this course basically blind at a recent tournament, so please take this review as coming from an am rated around 900 playing it for the first time. Overall I liked the variety and the way the design was intended to make use of all shots; I didn't like the three holes (#s11, 12, & 18) which seemed to me to be very impractical, either from the guess & hope throwing lines perspective or poor balance of risk reward perspective.
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3 of 5 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: -Baskets are in great shape.
-Doesn't seem to be too busy.
-Great mix of wide open and narrow tree passages.
-Plenty of benches and trashcans.
-Great use of available terrain and water.
-In the middle of suburbia. Great for quick rounds after work.
-Plays fast. My group of 3 with a new player finished in about 2 hours with 2 groups passing us.
Cons: -No bathrooms. There is a portapotty at the parking lot.
-Difficult to navigate the first time.
-Gravel/Dirt pads. I am not a fan of them. However, they are well maintained.
Other Thoughts: Great course to bring someone new to the sport to. Wonderful mix of wide of wide open fairways to seriously narrow thread the needle shots. Gives them a taste of nearly everything the sport has to offer. Course runs fast for experienced players so it is great to squeeze in a fast round on the way home from work.
2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 11 Not
Not for newbs
Pros: A couple decently fun holes requiring a wide variety of shots - some power holes, some finesse holes. Many difficult holes to par, and some easy birdies.
Cons: Overall, just too many really annoying holes.
Starting off with #1, and the annoying little tree that is right in the line of fire off the tee.
The pond on #6 is a disk swallower, you either need a consistent 350 ft straight drive, or you should lay up. For players with short, but accurate drives (like my wife), it can be too big to get over even with a layup off the tee.
Holes 9-13 have so many trees and tight throwing lanes, it's easy to get frustrated and run up your score if you are not extremely accurate.
Once you get out of the woods after 13, you'll probably have a tough time enjoying the last 5 holes, which would otherwise be fun.
Other Thoughts: I played this course again, and it was a lot better than I remember, or else I've just gotten a lot better.
3 of 14 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: Great selection of holes. What used to be a rinky dink pitch and putt is so much better. You will need most of the shots in your bag.
Use your head. Don't just throw for it. Know where the pin is. This course will bite you for a mis-placed drive or approach.
Cons: Mulituse park. Walkers can be and issue on a couple of holes and kids playing in the grass can get in the way. A buddy to watch out for your drives on hole 5 is nice.
I understand wanting to make some tight holes in the woods, but 11 and 12 could be widened by a foot or so to be a bit more playable.
Other Thoughts: Now that it is 18 holes and ALOT more challenging this is back into my rotaion.
1 of 3 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Fun course if you just have fun
Pros: Fun course that winds around a pretty family area park. Great location and easy to get to.
Good mix of left and right playing holes
Long holes, short holes
Wide open(5) and in the trees(11-12)
Water on a few holes. Easy creek shot on 3 made for a fun birdie. Laid up on the pond on 6. (No arm/confidence to clear that bad boy.)
Enjoyed 11-12. Guess since I hit the gaps I will be one of the rare ones that like those holes.
Great teebox signs.
A really enjoyable day.
Cons: Needs the bridge on 3. Shortens the walk around quite a bit, and the poor pallet that is in the water now will not last to long.
The reeds in the pond on 6 are huge. I like the intimidation, however putting a disc in there is a scary thought.
Some of the teepads had 'rutts' in the last 12 inches of runout. Watch those ankles.
The basket on 8 is hidden. Look for it when you walk to the 7 basket, otherwise you will overthrow your teeshot thinking it is farther than it is.
Other Thoughts: Lost blue Z Avenger SS with white stamp on 7 in the bushes to the right. If you find I would love back.
Only getting from 12-13 was odd, however the course signs are great. There are a couple of pinhole shots, but they are really fun. Tunnel shots were great. Would be great to have a port-a-let. Good shade under the pavilion, however I think this is probably taken up any weekend by parties.
Fun course and great location.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
7 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: -great new layout
-layout flows relatively well
-great tee signs with distance, par, and very detailed map
-mostly brand new DGA baskets, great condition
-some trash cans
-large variety of distances and types of shots, good mix of lefty v. righty
-variety of wooded holes and open holes
-water in play
-makes good use of some elevation
-scorecards at first tee with course map on the back (essential for first timers!)
Cons: -tee pads (crushed rock) are in decent condition now since they are new but they'll probably need constant attention to stay that way
-hole 3 really needs a bridge to cross the creek
-trash cans at each tee would be nice but there are many around the course
Other Thoughts: This course has a great new layout that will certainly make it a much more popular DG destination. I never played the old 9-hole layout so I can't compare but the new one is lots of fun. The course flows pretty well but there are a few spots with tricky navigation and/or longish walks. Long walk between 3 and 4, 9 and 10, 12 and 13. Finding the tee for 9 may be problematic as well as figuring out where to go after 11 and 12. Another thing I didn't like about the layout was the walk from basket 15 to tee 16 crosses back over 15's fairway. Back to back groups will have to wait awhile on that hole.
*Navigation is aided by the trash cans. If there is a tee tucked in the treeline, there is usually a trash can on the edge of the trees indicating where to go.
The tees and baskets are in great condition, for now. Most of the baskets are brand new DGA's but the tee pads are crushed rock and I am sure will get worn and rutted with time. Already some are starting to show the mesh underneath and as noted above. Better than dirt in the long run but still problematic.
I really liked the amount of variety in hole shapes. There are a couple hyzer shots (1, 13), a few big right turns (2, 8, 17), and the most of the remaining holes have many obstacles that force you to shape lines. You throw over a pond on 6 and creeks come into play on 3, 14? (is there water in all those bushes?), and possibly 17 and 18 (dried up in the summer?).
My big complaint here is that holes 11 and 12 are completely retarded. The "fairways" are not fair at all: 10' wide tunnel (15' max on 12) carved through thick trees with heavy rough. This would be okay if the shape were playable but they have awkward turns that mean your only option is to lay up a 100' shot in order to have a shot after that. LAME.
Maybe a little trimming will improve 11 and 12 and hopefully some of the amenities will be addressed with time (especially a bridge on hole 3!!). All in all, a great new addition (kind of) to the north Metro area. I made the drive from Denton and it was definitely worth the 30 min drive.
There are many new navigational aids on the course. Signs point the way after holes 9 and 12, the main trouble spots. The fairways on 11 and 12 also seem to be a bit more realistic now. Hole 12 is much better, you just need to hit the landing zone and 11 isn't so bad anymore either, especially now that the tee box is finished. Course is in great condition!
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7 of 7 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Bill Allen Rundown!!!
Pros: -Great T-signs
-Scorecards w/ map on back provided for you at hole #1.
-Terrain variety - trees, shrubs, hills, water (creeks and ponds)
-Shot Variety - wide open, xtremely tunneled, low ceiling, drastic doglegs, really short and really long holes Has it all.
-Good attempt at t-pads (crushed rock) and quite large.
-Nice surrounding neighborhood and park.
-Very clean park. Really nice.
Cons: -Non-concrete pads.
-Somewhat difficult to navigate your first time through (otherwise fine)
-Could run in to other park goers
-Still a lot of unnecessary brush that could be cleared out.
-Water crossing in hole #3's fairway could use a bridge for sure.
Other Thoughts: Greaty course to play. Bring your technical/finesse game and your big arm. This course has it all. Not a beginner course to say the least. Love that the course is tucked back away in a nice quiet neighborhood.
Definately worth the stop if you're in the area and definately worth a drive if you're not to far.
Very impressed with this course, it's cleanliness, hole variety, and it's use of the land provided. Great obsticles.
Check it out. You won't be disappointed.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 2 Not
New and Improving
Pros: Good mix of shots - short, long, open, tight. Seems to be good use of available land. The teeboxes are very large and easy to find, once you know where to look. This course, now with 18 holes, is much more challenging and interesting than the previous 9 hole course.
Cons: A few holes seem silly to me, but maybe that is because they are so difficult - Hole #11 comes to mind, mainly the orientation of the teepad, and Hole #14. With the old concrete pads still in place, it is a challenge to navigate the course.
Other Thoughts: I finally was able to finish a complete round out here - I hooked up with a couple other "old men", which helped me to not only slow my pace, but also to help keep me hydrated, which is a MUST this time of year.
This course will challenge you, frustrate you, and have you wanting to come back again. Yes, the course is still raw, and you want to stay on the fairway, but I would rather have the course open now than to wait until it has been manicured.
2 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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