Very Interesting Course
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Was out in Albuquerque for a conference and wanted get out of the hotel for a while so I didn't go crazy. Really interesting and fun course! Thought that the holes made the most of the landscape and natural obstacles, really great layout. Most holes were pretty open which allowed for big S-curves compared to the very tight wooded courses back in Wisconsin. The use of all the small tree groves and old dead snags was very well done. The added man made features were a cool addition adding some very unique challenges to the course. Really nice mix of distances too from some shorter birdie chances to big arm bombs. Both pro and am cement tees provide good options for any level of player.
As a Midwest native, it was fun to see the local habitat and how disc golf is played in the south west.
Holes were marked very well and finding the baskets was quite easy and logical, except maybe on the super long #9? (700+ foot hole), I got a little crossed up throwing at the #4 pin until I got close and realized that was on the other side of the ravine... Whoops. Maybe cost me one stroke but probably not.
Met up with the (or one of) the course designers and played the last few holes with him which was fun and nice to have the last few mandos explained to me, #18 mando is through a very tight spot and I probably would have never realized it had he not explained.
Probably the biggest thing I noticed in the southwest was how far a disc flies in that thin air. Im a 270-300 thrower back in Wisconsin but could relatively consistently bomb 350-400 out there... Actually overshot a 425 foot pin earlier in the week! Never going to do that back home! Maybe I just had some throws finally "connect" but I highly doubt they made that kind of distance jump.
I would mark this as a MUST PLAY if you are anywhere near ABQ!
Cons: I didn't have any problems but I could see loosing disc being an issue in the scrub brush especially once it greens up... if that happens ever... not really sure what summer looks like out there, ha. Just keep a good eye on your plastic.
It was 55F when I played and I could see this place getting very HOT, bring water. Its a desert, I suppose this should be obvious to most people. Not much shade.
Lastly, the bridge that once crossed the big ravine that splits the course has blown out so you have to cross a long concrete "plank" about 12" wide and 20 feet (?) long. If you fall it isn't going to be good! Hopefully there is another way across but I didn't see one, though I didn't really look either.
Other Thoughts: Really thought about bumping this rating up to a 4.5 but I just haven't played many courses in this climate and am not sure if it is as great as I through or if I was inflating it because it was so unique to anything I have ever seen. It really is and EXELLENT course.
1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Set in the outskirts of albuquerque this course has a post-apocalyptic feel. It was almost void of other players. The only sounds were planes/helicopters flying by and guns being shot.
Wierd and strange objects provide challenge and shot placement.
Tees clearly marked and had arrows showing direction.
Course flow was easily followed.
Scenery was unique and interesting. Made each hole an experence.
Hole variety was as good as it could be. The creek bed was used to add some elevation change that otherwise wouldn't exist. Poles and flags marked OB that added to the challenge for the course.
Good variety in short and long holes.
Solid concrete tee pads. All were in good shape. Each hole had a bench, and some were even covered.
Cons: No trash cans (except at the course entrance). Beer cans and garbage was blowing over the entire course.
Circular tee pads didn't allow for longer run-ups.
Some holes had no obsticals on them. This made them boring and of little challenge.
All the fairways were covered in thorny, scrubby brush. Sucked to get your disc out.
Older baskets were OK and most were well marked but some were hard to spot.
No tee signs, only distance and pars were marked.
Other Thoughts: The scenery and uniqueness of this course propelled it to a 4 in my book. With a few changes like trash cans and tee signs it will truly be a 4. Definitely worth checking out.
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
Brent Baca's Bizarre
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Brent Baca Memorial is a course set in a remote area that is desert landscape. Mostly flat and sandy, with brushy flora and few large trees. There is an arroyo dividing the course that is fairly deep and comes into play on a couple of holes. Some long drives, and creative manmade obstacles and OB add to the difficulty. 18 holes, with decent baskets and large, circular concrete tee pads. The layout is pretty logical and easy enough to follow. I printed a map just in case, and it is an accurate representation of the course. The baskets are often visible from the tee, and sometimes marked with white PVC pipe extensions to help visibility when tucked in behind brushy bushes. The terrain is largely open, but some spots have heavy rough lining the fairway, so keep a close eye on the drives. Holes 4, 5, 7, 9, 14 and 16 all have pins located along side or next to the edge of the arroyo, and can create tricky approaches and putts. On hole 4 I was fortunate to hang on to the side beneath the large tree, but still missed my putt and took a bogey. Hole 11 is one of the most unique holes I have ever played. 280' on level ground, but the tee shot and green are blocked by numerous industrial metal frames. The square in front of the tee denies a straight shot, and the landing zone is is covered with random uprights and cross bars. I tried a turnover that carried far to the right and into thick brush. After looking for ten minutes I located my disc and threw a poor recovery shot that left me still blocked out but the metal, leading to another two putt bogey. 14 is a long fairway that has OB marked by fenceposts on the right, before turning toward the arroyo with a basket underneath another large tree. The large tank staring you down on hole 17 fairway is another unusual obstacle. 18 has a hard left turn that can be tricky if you are off with your drive.
Cons: The sun would be brutal in hot weather, with very little shade. Luckily it was overcast with light wind when I played there, perfect conditions.
Other Thoughts: I enjoyed my round at Brent Baca Memorial. Very open but making the best of what is out there. Isolated in comparison to Roosevelt, I only saw two other players out there. Some noise from the recycling center, dirt bikes and ATV's, and folks shooting guns, but overall very pleasant. I was several shots over par, scoring a 63, and would probably like to play it again if I spend any time in Albuquerque.
2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Pro tee boxes are large
Objects at tee box present challenges
Arrows painted at tee box great help
Cons: Am tee boxes are very short
Tiny thorns (annoying and ouch)
Ants; big/small all fast and annoying
Every bush looks the same at distance
Other Thoughts: Great high desert course. Visiting the area and had to check it out. Lots of open space if you shank a throw.
Only major issue I had was the vegetation and how looked the same. I threw a laser, dead straight, I mean straight as an arrow. I watched it fly between two bushes and clip edge as it was about to land. Perfect, I know exactly where it is. I reached down, grab my other disc, look up and suddenly I'm not positive anymore. The vegetation can be deceiving. There are no clear fairways so it's easy to lose track of where you think you disc is when you zip zagging around bushes to get to your disc. Besides that, I highly recommend this place. Locals were extremely helpful. Man made objects and the threat of flying a disc into the arroyo are great compliments to this course. Just one question, what's with the jugs of water by the entrance?
1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Nice long course. Pro/Am tees. Awesome obstacles and obstructions. I've played all over the US and this is a course like no other. Very cool.
Cons: Hole 4 there is a giant arroyo right next to the pin. If you miss you have to go retrieve your disc. There isn't a lot of places to climb into to get it.
0 of 3 people found this review helpful.
7 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Tee Boxes= two sets of Concrete pads, the longs are Huge circles, i can see theses being used to alter the layout of the course (which is important if you're a local and looking for any variety in the area)
Baskets= Baskets seemed to be in good condition. many have flags or long poles to aide in pin location.
Signs & Stuff= Every time I get a chance to go back and play Baca, there always seems to be some sort of improvement made to the course. This time out I saw several new shelters (holes 7 &14) which are welcomed shade during a hot round, Erosion prevention work being done on hole 5, and the addition of wooden barriers being added to hole 13 (a great way to reduce the damage being done to native plants)
Design= Many unique manmade obstacles make Baca a one-of-a-kind place. My personal favorites are the standing railroad ties on hole 2(?) and the giant tank on 17.
Every time I play it, I find more artificial ob...I really like how some of it was being used to protect the native plants.
Dave's Point= Baca was the first place I ever threw a disc, I didn't even make 16 holes that day...every time we're out in Albuquerque I try and get out there and play it...It still challenges me, but I always have a great time. One of the most unique courses I've played and a must visit if you are in Albuquerque.
Cons: Tee Boxes=
Baskets= Only one set of pin locations(?)
Design= it is a very long course, and sometimes the holes feel like they are long just for longness sake...but I don't have a cannon for an arm so take that for what it is. Some of the flagged obs are difficult to see and identify off the tee. No real technical shots, for the most part is is just flat and long.
Signs&Stuff= Not much in the way of signage, but navigation is fairly straight forward. I would imagine having a local guide the first time out would make the round much smoother. No playgrounds or alternative actives on site, so not a family friendly course.
Dave's Point= It's way out in the middle of nowhere(kinda) that mixed with a hot round can be a dangerous situation. Take lots of water and a charged up cell phone if you play solo. Also be aware of water in the arroyo especially when there is bad weather in the area. Arroyos can flash flood even if it is not raining in your location.
Other Thoughts: Please remember when you are playing Baca that this is a high desert environment and great care should be taken with the flora and fauna. Life out there has to scrap and fight just to survive. Many of the plants are very fragile and any damage done to them can be irreversible. A bush that looks dry and dead is probably not...until someones smashes it to bits trying to create a lie. If you do land inside of the plants, please take a casual relief drop from behind the bush and take care in retrieving your disc.
Tee Boxes= 1.0
Signs & Stuff= .75
Dave's Point= 1.0
7 of 7 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 0 Not
In the desert
Pros: This course is pretty easy to navigate for a first timer. There were maps in the box at the beginning and the tee pads are concrete circles that are visible. Arrows on the tee pads point you to the basket and with a glance at the map baskets are easy to find. Fun and challenging shots that require a lot of different discs and throws to get you there. The blind shots are easily marked on the map which make them "easier". Wide open area is utilized well and "recycled" metal shelves and structures are put around baskets to make shots more challenging. Great terrain, lots of walking and exercise.
Cons: Best to play in morning, course is exposed and gets hot! Weeds can be overgrown which can make finding discs difficult and deceiving. When I played there were cracks in the ground big enough to fall in; be careful falling in them will cause sprained ankles or worse. Erosion is very bad here. Lots of helicopters flying around at all times of day and the dump nearby will make flies unbearable around certain trash cans on the course. The mondo hole on this course (18 I think) has an OB on the left side; don't get it over the fence it is rough and overgrown.
Other Thoughts: Course is exposed and gets hot, bring a hat and plenty of water. It helps to have a spotter on this course distances and bushes are very deceiving. Watch out for the huge cliffs on the arroyo. Pro tees have obstacles in the way which cause you to have to hyzer or anny around the obstacle. This is a fun course that I would play again. Enjoy!
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Great Tee Pads
Easy to navigate for first timer
Cons: None really that I can think of. There are a ton of ants and I was scared of rattlers, but not sure if there even are any. Chance of losing disc in arroyo.
Other Thoughts: Was visiting ABQ and this course was recommended to me on the dgcr forum. Glad I made it out there, this is a very fun course and worth the effort to play it. Only course in Albuquerque that I have played so I can't compare to others but it seems like the general consensus that this is the course to play. Fairly challenging and uses a wide variety of shots but not too hard for a novice. I love the man-made obstacles on hole 2 and as mentioned above, it was easy to navigate. There were no maps in the mailbox at tee one but i brought up the map on my phone and once I realized the tee pads were spray painted with arrows pointing toward the next hole, I was golden. About the tee pads, I LOVE the round concrete pads. Played these at Fountain Hills in AZ, and in my opinion, they are the only way to go. It is obvious that folks have spent a lot of time and energy on course upkeep and improvements so kudos to you guys. Baskets are in decent shape and are all multi-chain solid baskets. Great course that I will play again the next time I am here.
2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Nice and open. yet still has enough obsticales (natural and man-made) to keep the course interesting.
Several long holes to work on those long drives.
Several short holes that, with better putting than myself, birdies should be a piece of cake.
Maps/Score cards available at the first tee are handy for finding your way around.
Tee pads are large concrete circles with an arrow pointing towards the basket.
Cons: Course can get a bit odd to follow, get the map.
Baskets are fading, but still catch well.
Other Thoughts: A very fun course to play. Nice layout and well thought out obstacles.
Easy to tell that those that put the course together and maintain it care about the course.
Course would be very rough if the wind is up. Many of the OBs would only take a small gust to cross.
Bring water and sunscreen. You're very much in the open.
1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Fun, but open
Pros: The course plays through a large open area. There is an arroyo running through part of the course, and it's used for a couple nice basket placements with rollaway potential. It's deep enough that you can really pay for an errant shot that ends up down in the bottom. A couple other really minor elevation changes are in play as well. The tees are large circular concrete pads, and the signage is enough to navigate the course fairly easily.
There is a nice mix of hole lengths, from shorter reachable holes to a few long bomber shots where you get to really air out some drives. It's nice to get to watch the disc fly a long way, and you definitely have that opportunity here. Lots of man-made obstacles add to the challenge of a mostly open set of shots. My favorite was the hole with the vertical railroad ties, one side was much denser than the other and put a premium on placing your shot on the correct side. The rusty metal scaffolding was another fun obstacle that allows for recovery shots but definitely punishes an errant drive.
Cons: Despite great creativity by the course designer(s), the holes still play very open. There just isn't much opportunity for tight technical shots so you aren't forced to shape any specific lines. That leads to a little bit of a repetitive feeling that's a bit unavoidable on this property. The signage could use a little more info, especially on the longer shots. We had to look at the info online to know how far and where to throw.
Other Thoughts: Beginners will find this course a little long, but not terribly punitive. More experienced throwers will find some nice shot placement challenges and some good chances to air out longer drives, but won't really need technical line shaping skills to score well. I thought this was a very unique course, and would definitely recommend a stop if you're in the area.
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
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