Wilmington, DE 
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 beautiful windy hill beast.

1    11/22/2009   11/23/2009
Review By: prerube
Played: 213  Reviewed: 195  Exp: 7.2 Years
15 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: The scenery was great with lots of elevation changes and several risk vs. reward shots and decent flow.

There was a practice basket set up with stones to play around the world or horse while you wait for hole 1, wait for your friends, or warm up.

Putting areas were perfectly groomed and overall the course was well maintained.

multiple pin positions and cleary visable cement tee pads and decent signage.

Long flags helped make the pins visable over the elevation changes and showed wind direction (very important here)

I like hole 9, putting over the rock wall, but holes 4 and 5 are the signature holes "the beauty" and the "the beast".
The beast was a 666ft totally blind up hill shot (basket hinding under a broken tree in the brush). Holes 6 and 10 have risky drop offs that make you think about your approach.

Once you get away from holes 1,9,and 10 there is little other traffic on the course.
Cons: worst con: putting $6 in an envelope, sliding the envelope into an honor system box in the parking lot and walking away from your $.
All holes seemed to have the same formula: wide open with trees around the baskets.
If I did not take notes and prepare mysleIf, I would have wasted alot of time finding some of the baskets and would never have found hole 17.
Tall grass and thorns can eat your plastic, so watch your throws very carefully, you may need spotters in some areas.

I am sure this course is brutal in the summer with the long walks up and down the hill totally exposed to the sun for hours, bring water!
Other Thoughts: Before you go to this course go to the links section and take check out the course walk through (take notes).

The wind makes the course much colder in the fall and winter and adds a whole new play element.

Be prepared for atleast a 2 hour work out. The course is shorter than Carousel, but a harder workout. The distance between pins is 6,000-7,000 feet (which is over a mile for the math inclinde)

15 of 17 people found this review helpful.

 Brandywind

5+    10/24/2001   10/24/2009
Review By: Shannon Winn
Played: 33  Reviewed: 15  Exp: 36.2 Years
7 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: I've been 'round this track many times, and (almost) always had fun. If you want to improve your wind game, this is the place. It's located on the highest point in the state- admittedly Delaware is not known for altitude- and it gets severely windy here. Some days a ten foot putt is going to be be the hardest shot you play. (some windless days that's true...for me!) It's scenic, and varied, and wide open. #15 has always been my favorite hole because of it's look, not because I play it particularly well. Honorable mention to #3, a very birdiable affair with elevation danger if you miss left.
The famed beauty/beast combo is somewhat over-rated, with beauty being far superior to beast as a golf hole. Driving on the beast is just plain uncomfortable, and awkward. But the beauty is a joy to drive on, provided you don't go right, or get unlucky and land in the creek. Love it- play here if you can. Pick a windy day for maximum challenge.
Cons: Very few cons here. Can be rather brutal on a hot day, and there are some strange drives required on a few holes. The grass gets tall so watch your disc closely. There have been days when it's just TOO WINDY to have a good time.
Other Thoughts: When this course was first installed, it was a 9 holer, and the late great Pryor Hendrix shot a round of 18- total score. Pryor did stuff like that. I miss him.

7 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 Go For a Ride on the Grip-N-Rip Rollercoaster

1    9/7/2009   9/21/2009
Review By: swatso
Played: 359  Reviewed: 346  Exp: 6.1 Years
9 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros:
Two pin positions per hole. Good signs at tee showing current basket position and distances. Nice long-n-wide concrete teepads. Two nine-hole loops starting/ending near parking lot. Baskets with flagpoles making them easier to spot from a distance. Great views of the surrounding countryside from the top of the hill. Stone walls along some holes an interesting feature. Easy course to navigate. Very impressive webpage at http://playdg.com/courses/?s=...;c=brandywine
Cons:
$6 to enter park. The edges of some fairways are defined by tall, featureless grass - combined with the woods and creek along/backing some holes, and there is a moderate chance to lose a disc. A couple of teepads too close to the previous basket, causing a delay in teeing off.
Other Thoughts:
If you like to watch your discs fly, this is the course for you! The course plays down, across, and up one very long hill which comprises this public park. Most every hole will have some type of elevation change, some quite severe. Holes 1-9 form a roughly counter-clockwise loop, while 10-18 go around in a clockwise formation. Located on a former farm, there are a few ~4' stone walls scattered about, with some fairways playing parallel to them, and some baskets being located near them. Find yourself on the wrong side of the wall, and you may barely see the top of the basket during your putt attempt (#9 is specifically designed this way - immediately behind the wall, thick trees behind it.). On about 2/3rds of these holes, your favourite distance driver is going to get a workout, because they are long, and/or (#5 is an "and") uphill. A few long downhill holes where you'll just get to let it rip and enjoy watching your disc fly. "Touch" shots required on downhill-but-shorter holes 11,12, and 14, and #17 is a short but extreme right-turner. Most fairways are fairly wide open, but the approach to most baskets will generally be somewhat guarded by some trees, or one of the walls.

Favourite hole: #16. One of the flatter holes, just over 400' . Farm building to your left, collection of large trees about 275' away and slightly right. After getting past these obstacles, there is a mild turn to the left and another 150' to the basket.

A very fun course to play, and certainly worth a visit - you'll likely find yourself wanting to play it again whenever you're anywhere nearby.

9 of 9 people found this review helpful.

 More fun than challenging

1    6/9/2008   7/14/2009
Review By: DavidSauls
Played: 115  Reviewed: 58  Exp: 19.2 Years
5 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Mostly open grasslands on what seems like a mountaintop, using the relatively few trees pretty well. It's true that much of it is "grip & rip", but this doesn't convey the fun of the enormous elevation change. The ancient-looking stone walls come into play as well.

I don't mean to indicate it's not challenging, just that the it's not hugely challenging, but is hugely fun, especially throwing off the hills.

The aesthetics---the views, the rolling grassy fairways, the peace & quiet---are terrific.



Cons: Some of the later holes are rather boring.

If you throw where the grass has been allowed to grow 4' tall, the search is brutal; you can be 3 feet from your disc and not find it.

No water, very little shade, and big hills make a summer round an endurance event.

Little or no O.B.
Other Thoughts: I visited on a windless day; I can imagine the winds this course must get and the adventure playing them.

The entry fee is well worth it.

I might be a little stingy with this rating. Other courses offer better variety and challenge. But Brandywine was great fun, even on a 95 degree windless day, and I could almost give it 3.5 discs instead.

5 of 6 people found this review helpful.

 

1    6/7/2009   7/7/2009
Review By: Kwick
Played: 48  Reviewed: 18  Exp: 7.6 Years
5 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: Absolutley beautiful views.
Concrete Tee Pads/Multiple Pads
Two practice Baskets
Cons: Extremely wide open
No protection from sun
not much variety
Wind can be difficult
Tics
Other Thoughts: This course has some stunning views of nature that go on for miles. The course plays extremely long, and many of the drives are just "grip it and rip it". Tough to get a two if you don't have a big arm, yet easy to get a three on most holes. Wind can absolutley destroy an otherwise good drive and have you searching through high grass. I did have tics when I left the course and also got poison ivy. Make sure you have all of your plastic marked, as it can be tough to find in waste high grass.

5 of 9 people found this review helpful.

 Challenge for Advanced Players

5+    2/26/2009   6/8/2009
Review By: john501
Played: 10  Reviewed: 10
6 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Idyllic, pastoral setting. Long, Long, Long. Significant elevation changes on both front and back make for a fun, very challenging round.
Cons: Wide open. Players who enjoy the finesse required by wooded courses will not find much of interest at Brandywine. Wind can be extreme.
Other Thoughts: This is a fantastic course that is well worth the hour-plus drive out of Philadelphia to play. Bring your longest driver and plenty of water because it is a real workout.

6 of 9 people found this review helpful.

 One of Delaware's Best

5+    6/6/2009   6/8/2009
Review By: Neophyte
Played: 19  Reviewed: 15  Exp: 6.3 Years
12 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: First of all this is a beautiful course. It has the feel of a civil war battlefield. It is one of the highest points in Delaware so it provides some great vistas of the surrounding area. These high points allow some great long drives even for beginners, holes 4 (beauty), 12 and 14 come to mind. Players with big arms have a definite advantage on this course. However, the length can be deceptive and there are penalties for over driving on some of the holes keeping the big arms honest. Holes 2, 6 and 11 have these fast greens keeping the just "air it out" strategy in check.
This course also utilizes elevation change in a great way both providing great opportunities to watch a long drive in flight and playing mental games driving uphill. Holes 5 (beast), 7, 8 and 15 require a player to drive uphill which can really level the playing field if a player is not used to it.
Cons: I really appreciate a balanced course. One that has open and tight fairways; long, short and medium length holes. Brandywine does not have this type of variety. While there are a couple of holes with protected baskets (holes 5, 7, 8, 14 and 17) most of the holes are almost completely open. A couple of forested holes or technical fairways would really do wonders to round out this great course. Maybe utilize the river, require a shot across the river and through the trees to a basket on the other side. There is a perfect spot for this on the backside of hole 13.
Other Thoughts: This course does take a while to play (about two hours for a couple not in a hurry) because of the length of the course but there is really no reason to rush because of the great setting.
While searching for a disc down the hill past hole 11 I discovered an old tee pad pointing down toward the river. Maybe this course did at one time play across the river?

12 of 12 people found this review helpful.

 Be prepered for the killer B's!

1    3/27/2009   5/28/2009
Review By: optidiscic
Played: 155  Reviewed: 149  Exp: 12.2 Years
This review was updated on 5/11/2010
12 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Not many courses around like this one. Dramatic elevation comes into play on practically every hole. Spectacular Vistas. Nice concrete tees are holding up pretty well after all these years.Huge stone wall comes into play on 1/3 of holes. Ego boosting off the hill throws on Holes 4,11,12,and14 will remain in your mind as well as Ego crushing climbs uphill on Holes 5,13,15 and 18. The beauty, the beast, the bastard, the barn, so many fun holes here. I really enjoyed the Bastard (hole 6) Its a downhill to a protected basket with a very fast green that encourages you to miss and roll down a slope where you have plenty of trees to negotiate back uphill to the pin. You could get a 2 or a 6 on this hole. Hole 9 shoots over the wall and into the woods behind it depending on pin position. Hole 14 is a delightful hole and really tests your ability, can you really hyzer around that tree line down there or should you lay up and play it safe to avoid being on the wrong side of those huge Delaware trees. Let's not forget the wind here. When it blows straight in your face, you can pull out your fastest most stable driver and throw it straight into the gusts and watch it miraculously flip over or hold a line without fading at all. When the winds at your back throw your understables straighter and further than you ever thought possible. So much fun playing the wind here! Can you putt in the wind? Makes for very interesting rounds for competition amongst friends or a tournament because with the score separations on the hillsides and the wind anything can happen and often does. I agree with the prior reviewer who encouraged you to just stop and take in the 360 degree views of this plae...It really is an amazing piece of property for disc golf.
Cons: The tee pad on hole 3 is really hurting, be careful. The thorns and high grass off the fairway on some of these holes look like they could really spoil a good time. Hole 17 is the only let down hole on the course....just a mando around a tree to a short basket. 18 is a gradual rise uphill overall an Anti-climactic way to end a spectacular day. Stream could come into play a bit more, rather than just lurking in the background I would like to throw over it etc. to add more beauty and challenge. I also think the woods around hole 11 were begging to be used as well. Maybe just one or two woods holes to even out the big air experience here.
Other Thoughts: The beauty, beast, bastard and barn...seems theres room for a bitch, a babe, a bunker and a bye bye birdie on this beautiful Brandywine course. Best played in the late fall, winter or early spring to avoid nasty high grass, hot sun and evil shule as well as the $6 park fee. If your sick of trees after playing Iron Hill come here and play the great wide open. I cannot fathom a more amazing and challenging day of disc golf with two equally distinct courses only 20 minutes apart from one another. You get the hardest wooded course ever created at Iron Hill and the perhaps the wildest wind course ever at Brandywine....a day few will ever forget!

12 of 12 people found this review helpful.

 long, open and hilly

5+    5/23/2009   5/25/2009
Review By: discNDav
Played: 289  Reviewed: 63  Exp: 28.2 Years
6 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: This courses lets you "air it out" on almost every hole, it is long, open and very hilly. You can play a whole round here and not hit a tree on your tee shot if you are playing well.

Great use of the elevation changes, I like this on open or wooded courses. Flags on top of the baskets are a nice touch and are important due to the almost constant wind here.

This course is VERY scenic with beautiful views from some of the highest points in Delaware and stone walls built along the rolling hills. It is also very clean, I didn't see any litter!

Holes 4 & 5 are aply named "Beauty and Beast"
Cons: The park fee for a non-Delaware car is $6.

The wind can be a huge factor.

A few uneven cement tees can be dangerous, be careful especially on 3 and 4.

Walking up and down the hills here can be very taxing if you are not in good shape. It would be nice to have benches
near some of the tees.
Other Thoughts: If the grass in the park has been cut; great. If not, the rough can be brutal with tall grass and thorns making it easy to loose a disc. This can be a huge FUN factor in playing the course or not.

Other reviewers mention multiple tees but I saw none of them on 5/23/09. If there are alternative tees, they must not be cement or used only during tournaments.

The park rangers can be a hassle in all Delaware parks, be careful. I saw no park staff on an early Saturday morning though The park fee was on the honor system.



6 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 

5+    5/22/2009   5/22/2009
Review By: lennyb6
Played: 4  Reviewed: 3
3 Helpful / 7 Not
Pros: If you are looking for a good walk, you've found it. Most of the holes are long and wide open. The Beast is 666 ft - huge uphill climb. Nice day out in the sun.
Cons: Rough can make for a nice long disc search especially on some of the blind uphills.

3 of 10 people found this review helpful.


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