So much good, but a lot of bad
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - The obvious pro is the park itself. Beautiful land and excellent natural elevation changes.
- The pro of the layout is definitely the elevation usage. Several holes go up and down and really makes you adjust to it.
- There are plenty of easy courses out there, but not here. You will have to earn your birdies and if you get out of the fairway, you have to get your quality scrambling game to get par.
- For the most part, tee signs and boxes are really good. Most of them had dirt, pine cones, and straw that had got on them, but you can easily clear them.
- Baskets were good, they were lower quality Mach baskets, but they were in good condition and they caught everything they should've.
- There were red arrows for navigation. For the most part they were great, could've used more in some places.
Cons: - Bugs and poison ivy. Should be expected in a wooded area. I know it's a state park where they want to preserve the environment, but get they could do better to get rid of the ivy. Spider webs were also a bigger deal than other wooded courses I have played. Several baskets had webs in the chains and a few that were close to trees had huge webs between the tree and basket. Be careful what you are walking into. Even the other plants are typically over grown. A ton of shin-high plants that make walking the holes annoying and a ton of leaves, pine straw, and dead branches on the ground. I stepped on a random stick and it snapped up and cut my hand. It really could use some clean up and a mow in all the fairways.
- The layout could be better, with more variety. Felt very left to right turn holes heavy, and frankly it got old. Holes 2-5 are in an electric line clearing which is a good idea, but the execution is lacking. All the baskets are in the open, except for 4, which is tucked in on the right, but it's by far the shortest of the holes. All the other holes are tight tunnels. Other than the elevation nothing really excites you.
- A few of the tee boxes had a ton of dirt. I had to look for the concrete on #17. I don't know how it got completely covered but it needs to be cleared.
- The baskets are so hard to see. The Mach baskets have no bright colors and in a dark wooded area, it's a struggle to find them. Toward the end, I was tried and just wanted to leave so I just trusted the tee sign and threw down the fairway and played for par.
- The walk from 9 to 10 and 16 to 17 need more arrows. You have to walk across the parking lot and slightly down the road to 10, and you go right by 12. And after 16 you come out of woods to a road and there isn't anymore arrows at the road. You have to walk awhile down the road across another and then you get to 17. But there are paths going back into the woods that you have no idea of you should follow or not.
Other Thoughts: - Overall, it really is a quality course. I can't say I would want to constantly be playing it, but it is a good one to play, especially if you want to do some of the other stuff in the park, too.
- Just some advice, if you're like me and you like throwing extra throws if your first isn't good, DON'T!! I lost an extra that hit a tree 50ft in front of me, kicked into the woods, and even though I watched it down, I never could find it. (On #13 if you just want to be a friend :D).
- Really make an effort to watch your disc, you don't want to be spending a ton of time off the fairway and with all the stuff on the ground, it could be hard to find if you don't know exactly where it came down.
- I can't really speak to traffic on the course. I've been twice and both times I haven't had any issues. But there are walking and biking trails, so I can imagine that it could an issue if the trails are busy.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
A gem with a few too many inclusions.
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: This is a heavily wooded, moderately technical course with significant elevation. It has one set of concrete tees and one pin placement. The course is set in mature forest with little undergrowth. Several of the holes are spectacularly good and many of the holes have a high level of difficulty while still being fair. Many of the holes on this course compare favorably to the nearby Lake Claiborne Whitetail course.
There are only three holes that exceed 400 feet. All are on either a power line right or way or an old road. Most of the rest are below 300 or have a significant drop in elevation from the tee pad to the basket and can be reached with a putter, mid or fairway driver.
There are a significant number of right-turning holes for the forehand players. There are also holes that require left turns, s-curves and reverse s-curves. Some baskets have elevation drops behind the basket and there are also some uphill holes. There's a little bit of everything except truly wide open shots.
While navigation can get a little tricky, the park has placed a number of color coded arrows to point the way to the next tee box and other trails (following the red circles with black arrows for the disc golf course).
Cons: After the first 9 holes, it is easy to get the impression that you only played 3 holes, 3 times each. A big part of that comes from holes 3, 4 and 5. All three are virtually identical, long holes on the same power line right of way. The remainder of the holes on the front 9 follow the same walking trail. None of them are bad holes, but the repetitive feel starts early and can really take away any desire to see what the next hole offers. This is really too bad because if the power line holes were spread out over the 18, the repetition might not be so "in your face" and there are some truly excellent holes that follow.
The back nine is a better designed part of the course but has a few navigation issues. Make sure you are playing hole 10 and not hole 12 when you start the back nine. Hole 18 leaves you with bit of a walk back to the parking lot.
The concrete tees are a little too smooth and several were a bit slippery. There has been a lot of rain this summer, the tees are all shaded and they have some green algae/slime on them. This is probably not the norm.
There is no water and no bathrooms on the course. Navigation can be a bit tricky. After holing out on hole 5, you need to backtrack to the trail that you passed on your left about 250 feet before you got to the basket. On the back nine, pay close attention to both the map that you should have brought with you and the numbers on the tee signs. It is very easy to think that hole 12 is hole 10 if you don't pay attention to the numbers.
Other Thoughts: If not for the power line holes (4-6) and minor navigation issues on the back nine, this course would get a higher rating from me. This is a phenomenal piece of land for a course. Even the power line right of way offered the opportunity to have open tee shots that needed to finish in the woods or tight tee shots that could finish in the open. But by the time I was on hole 6, I couldn't remember how many of those holes I had already played. It is kind of like an otherwise great movie with a stupid ending having that stupid ending at the end of the first act. No matter how good the rest of the movie is, its just not as enjoyable as it should be. That is about the best analogy I can think of for how the repetitiveness of those holes affected my enjoyment of the round.
Despite the unfortunate over-usage of both the walking trail and the power line ROW, this is a high quality course sitting somewhere between very good and excellent on the ratings scale IMO.
This course has some steep parts that my get fairly slippery after rains and requires stepping over immovable logs and small streams and gullies. This is not a good course for anyone worried about sure footing or strenuous walking.
2 of 3 people found this review helpful.
9 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course plays through a hilly forested area that's dedicated to disc golf. There didn't seem to be much interference from other activities, a walking trail follows part of the course but it seemed fairly unused. Many holes have nice elevation changes, especially on the back 9. There are some fun downhill shots, and some nice tough uphill holes. Some ravines come into play, I like shooting valley type shots where an errant drive can leave you at the bottom with a tough upshot.
There is a nice variety of hole lengths, with some longer holes especially along the power lines, mixed in with some fun ace runs through the woods. There's good punishment for poor drives with dense woods and enough brush to make you really work if you're off the fairway. A couple small creeks are in play, and can add a fun ob to avoid without risk of losing your disc.
The course is pretty new, so all the course equipment is in good shape. The concrete tees are a decent size and have some decent texture. The baskets are in great shape and catch well. The park entrance has maps that are accurate and helpful, and the course signage is basic but adequate to know where to throw.
Cons: Some of my cons are things that just come with a new course in the woods, so they'll improve over time, and I would love to come back and see the course break in. This paragraph of cons didn't affect my rating much, as I think they're temporary and will definitely be different in a year or so. It's a little rough still, so there are some holes that are still a little pinball style with no good line to the hole. There are some areas where brush is still encroaching on the fairways.
In terms of design, this is a fun course to play but there are some places where it gets repetitive. It felt a little hyzer friendly (RHBH) overall, a little more diversity in hole shapes would bump up the challenge and fun factor quite a bit for me. There is a section of the back 9 where you throw up and down the same hill a few times, some cross hill shots and fewer parallel fairways would make it feel less repetitive here. There are some really long walks between holes and back to the car after the 18th hole, if we didn't have the map it would have been pretty difficult to follow.
Other Thoughts: This is a fun new course that's got a lot of potential. It's a great piece of land, and the holes along the power line mix in some wider fairways that still have the rough in play. I had a lot of fun here, and I would definitely come back if I were in the area. The $1 to play is a really reasonable fee, hopefully some of it is going back into the course.
Beginners are going to find this one a little tough and punitive, especially as it's new and hasn't seen much traffic to beat down the underbrush along the fairways. More experienced players will find some really fun holes here, it's not going to really test the top pros, but it will challenge the rest of us to hit tight lines and work the elevation changes.
9 of 9 people found this review helpful.
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