So Long Schweitzer, Hello Meh
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Carmichael Park is a large urban multi-use city park with fairly manicured lush green lawns. It has 5 ballfields, 3 playgrounds, and 6 tennis courts, along with a dog park, basketball court and volleyball court. There are barbecue and picnic areas throughout along with restrooms. The Community Clubhouse, Veterans' Memorial Building, the Daniel Bishop Memorial Pavilion for the Performing Arts, and the Great Wall of Carmichael are also all located within the park. The disc golf course is mostly up front in the park, playing through a very flat area with a few old oaks scattered throughout. The course makes use of the tennis courts as obstacle, more on that in cons. Most holes average from about 250 to 350 feet, leaving all holes aceable or potential birdies for most experienced golfers. The course is designed about as well as can be for the space allowed, there really aren't a lot of obstacles other than a few scattered trees and roads played as OB. The holes are mostly wide open and provide plenty of shot options, but really aren't long enough to really grip and rip for a cannon arm. The corner of the tennis court fence by the first hole is used as a club kiosk of sorts, with a map box there but often empty. Weeklies are held here with often a large turnout. Mike G., the course designer, often hosts clinics at the course. The clinics, the weeklies, and the comradery are really what this course has going for it.
Cons: Personally I don't see the problem with the size of the tees for the distance of the holes, but I know some consider them too small. The course needs signs, other than hole 1 there is little to guide you through the course. Although the course is small enough to figure your way around navigation would be much easier with some kind of signage. Busy tennis courts used as OB and obstacles. Hole 1 is a sharp right dogleg played down the side of the tennis court and then behind with a mando of staying to the left of the court. For most decent players it probably won't be a problem, but a great deal of beginners and intermediates use this course and it is a safety concern. In fact I have seen several people throw errantly into the courts. Hole 5 uses the administration building as a backstop with the basket being placed right in front. I have heard that a window has already been broken. I personally had an errant skip off the road and hit the building, no damage though, but it does have me pulling my shots a little on this hole to avoid future incidents. The course often plays a little to close to roads and park drives for comfort. The course is closed on weekends sometimes for Farmers Market in summer, check schedule. Holes 8 and 9 are a considerable distance from the rest of the course, and really open field holes, so not the greatest reason for a walk, in fact many players skip these holes all together choosing instead to play 1-7 multiples. The lush green grass when wet is also a major con will leave you with soaking wet shoes. There are a lot of other activities going on in this park that will conflict with play. This is one of the only places I've ever seen LARPers, "Live Action Role Players," playing in the fairway running around putting "spells" on each other. What more can you say? This area of Carmichael also has a sketchy crowd that wander along Fair Oaks Blvd that sometimes find their way into the park for no good.
Other Thoughts: The Carmichael area was once a shining beacon of disc golf. The Callahans brought disc golf to the area as early as the late 1960's playing in Albert Schweitzer park to first trees, and then tones with the course being recognized officially in 1980. And the parks and recs department teamed up with the DGA to put baskets in parks like Del Campo, Mission North, and one other that I no longer remember the name, and there may have been more that I just don't remember. Back in the 1990's Carmichael was the only city in California listed in the PDGA course directory with 2 courses. The Carmichael area was a leader in the sport of disc golf, long before Carmichael ever became a city, and enjoyed a partnership with the local club The Mutha Putters for years. Over time that relationship soured until every area course was closed with Schweitzer being pulled in May of 2011. Some like Mission North were outdated for new disc technology and in too small an area to expand, others were pulled as the relationship between disc golfers and the city of Carmichael parks and recs deteriorated. Now to be fair, disc golfers share a great deal of the blame with illegal drug and alcohol use being cited as the major reason for closure. But the city of Carmichael took no consideration of the history of the courses in their decision to close them. Now all the courses have been shut down and now they have given us a course near the administration building in Carmichael Park in return. The course at Carmichael park is a beginner style course and really no substitute for the technical play of "little Africa" or Del Campo.
2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
Perfect for a quick 9 or field work
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Pros: 1) Good distance for non cannon arms like myself, 209-360 feet
2) Trees provide enough of a challenge for any skill golfer
3) Bathroom on site
4) Great layout of multiple routes to the basket on holes
5) Public transportation puts you close to the course
Cons: 1) Teepads too small
2) Depending on the season, course is closed on Sundays for the Farmer's Market (not sure if it's for the whole day)
3) Holes 8,9 are seperated from the first 7 holes by the dog park
4) Little League season can slow you down on holes 8 and 9, since they're near the baseball diamonds
5) After a good rain, drainage is not the greatest so bring galoshes, :-D
Other Thoughts: The only MANDOS that I know are on holes 1 (to the left of the tennis court fencing) and 2 (to the left of the ball wall next to the tennis courts). Holes 2 and 3 are guarded by trees. Holes 5 and 7 are seperated by a roadway, which is considered OB and can be pretty gnarly on your discs. 5 is the longest (360) so I lay up, because I don't have the cannon. 7 is 250 but there is a tree about 60-80 feet to the right. Don't be fooled by hole 9. Too much hyzer and your disc is gonna get gnarled up by parking lot, OB.
Check the tennis court fence by hole 1 for upcoming events in the park. You can find a map of the course around there as well, if available.
1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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Solid Tune Up Course
Pros: -Good use of terrain
-Moderately varied shot selection
-Great map at 1st tee (also take away maps)
-Well maintained by the city
Cons: -Holes 8+9 are frequently surrounded by sketchy crew.
-Holes 8+9 are also a trek from 1-7 (between this and the weirdos I usually skip these).
-Tee pads can be slippery
-holes 4-7 fold back on themselves, can be annoying during even medium traffic times.
Other Thoughts: Great place to tune up some shots. LOTS of ace runs. Not worth a long drive, but great if you're in the area and want to get in a few rounds.
0 of 3 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: grass that is watered and mowed often. not a lot of other golfers on the course so you can play quickly. excellent starter and family course. has both tee pads and baskets.
Cons: it is 9 holes. 8 and 9 are on the other side of the dog park and hard to find. not to challenging with either of the length or obstacles. this is both a pro and con but the course has sprinklers so if you golf early you will want or need a towel.
Other Thoughts: carmichael is a good place to get back in to the game or keep you game up to date!
0 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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Pros: Great intermediate park. 9 holes, with plenty of parking and access. Now has Baskets. Great place for learning to drive with putters and midranges.
Cons: sundays during the farmers market, holes 6 & 7 are not allowed to be played while market is there. Till about 1 or 2 pm i think. dogpark splits the first 7 holes from the last 2
Other Thoughts: in the process of getting t-pads installed. was supposed to be last week, now on hold as of 4/21/2013
0 of 2 people found this review helpful.
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Short 9 in Carmichael
Pros: Some decent distance shots. No real short gimme holes, but most are potential birdies for experienced disc golfers. Tennis courts are in play on 3 holes and are out-of-bounds. Hole 1 is where they are most in play as the fairway wraps around a corner of the courts. Some baskets are very nicely placed within groups of large trees. There is one sign with the course layout on it posted on the corner of the tennis courts by the first tee which is near Grand Ave. and the northwest corner of the tennis courts. Well maintained grass throughout course. Newer course with not a lot of people playing usually so creating alternate layouts or playing the course backwards is often a possibility, as well as making it a good course for beginners or throwing multiple discs.
Cons: Natural tees, no signs, and a lot of wide open shots. Only one tee and pin location on every hole. There is a walk from the hole 7 pin to holes 8 & 9 around the dog park. Hole 9 ends a little ways away from hole 1 so there is a little walk to get back to your car or play another round (not bad at all though; maybe 250-300 yards). Completely flat and sometimes subject to flooding and muddy areas.
Other Thoughts: The sign at hole one with the course layout on it shows where holes 8 & 9 are located, but it isn't completely obvious where to go after finishing hole 7. Follow the road straight past the dog park and the 8th tee will be on the left once you get around the dog park in the corner of the grass. Shoot for the furthest basket (not the one 80 ft. away, that's hole 9's basket). There is a weekly random doubles league on Monday's at 3PM. The tees get muddy after rains so it can be necessary to throw from behind or on the side of them.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
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Long Walkout To Reach #'s 8 & 9 !
Pros: Carmichael Park is a pretty, green multi-use park with tennis courts, ballfields, a dog park and a playground. I started with # 1 playing over the tennis courts and finishing with the long walk to #'s 8 and 9. The course information sheet called those holes over there 1 and 2 so I'm a little confused already.
The course has dirt pads, the baskets are okay and there are no tee signs. When I reached # 5, I had no idea where that basket had snuck off to.
There's about a 1/3 mile walk past the dog park to the last (first?) two baskets. This area has a park sign designating this area as "Disc Golf Only". These two holes are fairly basic in nature without much in the way of obstacles.
Cons: The first hole I played is a problem waiting to happen. Having players of all abilities throwing over the tennis courts is just asking for trouble.
The dirt teepads are not great. The lack of signage is a problem. I don't know where # 5 basket was?
And there was the long walk out to 8 and 9 and then you have to walk all the back to where you parked. All in all, not a smooth natural flow.
Other Thoughts: Carmichael Park is a typical little city park but the disc golf course suffers from a poor design.
Another thing is suffers from is a clearcut case of HBB (Home Boy Bias) in it's inflated rating of almost 3.0.
How does a flat 9 hole rec course with dirt pads, no signs, terrible design flaws, long walkout to 8 and 9, mundane holes with little or no obstacles, a missing basket, long walk back to parking and a major safety flaw on # 1 merit a rating of a 3? Sorry homies, this course is way overrated!
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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Pros: - Well manicured park
- Easy to find
- Hole 1 has a left to right turn
- Baskets are in good shape
- Crowds seemed much smaller than the other Sacramento area courses I've played
- Maps available at the first tee
- More friendly locals than I have encountered in other areas of Sac
- Playground in the park, though not close enough that there would be any risk of discs hitting kids
- A few baskets have interesting placements
Cons: - Tee's are dirt marked with a concrete block with the hole # on it
- Long walk from hole 7 to holes 8 and 9, with a long walk back to your car after hole 9
- Most holes are straight ahead without any real obsticles
- Homeless people hanging around some areas of the course
- Holes have good distance for am's and kids, but players with more experiance will end up prety bored
- Right next to a major road, so road noise is inevitable
- No tee signs
- A little difficult to navigate at times, even with a map
- No elevation change
- Other park users walking through the course at times
Other Thoughts: The map that is in the links section is outdated. Hole 1 now starts where they had hole 3 listed. To find holes 8 and 9 you have a long walk, past hole 7's basket and past the dog park.
Over all this course is an ok little city park course, well mannicured and making good use of the trees that are there. It's fun for locals wanting to avoid the crowds that are usualy at Shady Oaks or Roseville (though they are both beter courses), or to show their girlfriend or kid how to play disc golf in a less intimidating place. It's also good for someone wanting a quick round on thier lunch break if they work in the area. For players wanting more challange I would recomend waiding through the crowds at Shady Oaks or Rocklin, or taking a drive up to Tahoe and playing some hardcore courses.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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Good Lunch Time practice!
Pros: For those that live around Shady Oaks in Orangevale, this is a decent place to hit close by if the Oaks are impacted (as often is the case.)
Cons: Long walk between 7 and 8 is odd. If the second nine is added and this is revised to be part of a second nine, the nice walk between front and back could be nice.
Other Thoughts: I would slot this course between Elk Grove and Marconi. Again, for those Orangevale folks, it is a closer drive than Marconi and a much better area. It is wayyyyy closer than Elk Grove and a more challenging/better layout. It is what it is, a quick practice round during a lunch break!
0 of 1 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 3 Not
needs tee signs
.......thats about it
Cons: -dirt tee pads
-hard to navigate
-hole 8-9 couldn't find the first time
Other Thoughts: ehhhhhh play it to mark it off the list but other than that i wouldn't recommend it..
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