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 Knoxville's only Woods Course & Best Tone Poles Ever

1    6/18/2012   7/27/2012
Review By: bjreagh
Played: 229  Reviewed: 225  Exp: 18 Years
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: A mostly 9-hole technical woods course with some elevation- a welcome addition to Knoxville's disc golf courses as this city did not have a course in this style up until now.

It starts and ends with open hole, with holes 2-8 in the woods. The open holes are the easiest, but do have some tall grass to contend with, plus the baskets are still tucked in the woods. The wooded holes are what you would expect- clear fairways with trees to avoid and lines to hit. Elevation adds a nice challenge and contributes most of the variety from hole to hole.

Pretty easy to navigate without any signage- good paths already worn in.
There are 2 tees per hole- a long and a short, but the longs are also at more difficult angles. There are also 2 targets per hole- a basket and a tone pole. The baskets are short/normal, where the tone poles are longer for more challenge, and are a great challenge as they almost turn each hole into a par 4 instead of 3, not because of major length added, but because the tone pole is beyond the basket at an odd angle or a curved path that may not be a realistic flight path from the tee.

*I need to commend whoever came up with the tone poles! I prefer a basket, but if I had to have poles, these would be it. They are made from emptied old fire extinguishers turned upside down and slipped over a 4x4. They are a great size, easy to see, and make an unmistakable bell-ringing sound when hit by a disc. These are simple and effective and a terrific idea!)

Also, after reading some older reviews and conditions updates it appears that a lot of work is constantly being done to improve this course.
Cons: Any new woods course is going to need some time to break it in. When I played it was lacking signs- tee signs and next tee signs, but I would assume these will soon be installed if not done so already. (signs had no effect on my rating.) But until then it could be confusing to play without the help of a map or a local, however, it is not impossible either.

The 7 wooded holes are a little repetitive and all blended together in my mind as they all play through what appears to be man-made fairways versus natural paths. They all generally have the same width, and the tree density is all the same.
Other Thoughts: #1 starts beyond the short wood fence past the kiosk- which was actually being built during our round. We headed towards a small sign on the edge of the woods (it actually was a course map), then followed a path in the woods, found a hole, and luckily had some locals playing that told us it was hole 4. Not sure why there is a map by a path that leads to hole 1, but maybe it was a temp thing.

Looks like there is room and plans for 9 more holes- so this has the potential to be a solid 18 hole woods course, and again is a welcome addition to the Knoxville disc golf scene, as the other two 18-hole courses in town are very different in style - Victor Ashe is mostly wide open and Morningside is park style.

I rated this based on hole design and setting, and did not factor in the roughness due the newness and the lack of signage which I am sure is coming. Overall, this is a good course to play, especially if you like the wooded kind. There is nothing super special about it, but it does have the potential to improve, primarily through the addition of 9 more holes.

2 of 2 people found this review helpful.

 

1    7/6/2012   7/6/2012
Review By: Equigley
Played: 2  Reviewed: 2  Exp: 4.1 Years
1 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: The course has good potential and there are plans of it getting a full 18 in the future which is awesome. The woods create narrow fairways which really require skilful shots but add to the fun.
Cons: The course is very poorly marked and I got lost trying too look for hole two and ended up at hole 5 instead. It was very confusing figuring out what tee boxes were for which hole.
Other Thoughts: The course has a lot of potential and is still under construction so many of it's flaws are expected for now. I would like to see the course better marked and it would make it much more enjoyable.

1 of 2 people found this review helpful.

 How Hard Would You Like It?

2-4    4/6/2012   4/6/2012
Review By: swatso
Played: 359  Reviewed: 346  Exp: 6.1 Years
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros:
(Mostly) a technician's dream/nightmare/laboratory.
Cons:
Multitudes of disc re-directing trees, coupled with thick undergrowth, combined with some holes requiring blind turns and/or up-n-over rises, i.e., even on an accurate throw, your disc will often disappear from sight, equate to high chance of disc loss. Even the open holes, 1&9, and thick/high grasses, and number-9 also had a mini-wetlands blind from the tee - do NOT go left too early (R.I.P., Champ Valk). Spotter(s) highly recommended.
Other Thoughts:
The day I played, basket-1 was in the long position, and the remaining baskets were in the short position. For this review, I played from both the short and long tees to the baskets, not the tones, so essentially played short-to-short and long-to-short.

The course plays primarily within the thick woods residing on a gently sloping piece of land. While numbers 1&9 are open in their near entirety (woods left, but straight and right wide open), all other holes play completely within the trees,

Numbers 2-5 are shorter, on average, than 6-8. These latter three holes, especially long-to-long, will quite legitimately be par 4/5s. By contrast, every short-to-short hole was reachable by my typical 275'~300' throw, some not even needing that much distance.

While numbers 2-5 offer some elevation changes, usually one dimensional (i.e. steadily/lightly downslope #3), the changes are more extreme, and varied, on 6-8 - more rollercoaster-like.

Numbers 2-5 are much tighter than 6-8, and could use some trimming. While I was able to discern, and sometimes successfully execute, throws from the short tee on 2-5, from the long tee, it was more like "Huh? Hit that window, hold that line, then hit that secondary window, then hold that secondary line, all on a single throw? While 6-8 are by no means open, the trees are more scattered, so missing the optimum flightpath may still find a secondary one that isn't horrid. Not so on 2-5 - hit the tight line, or pay the price.

This course definitely has a left-turner bias, According to the map, playing to the long positions will add some right-turn balance, but the course will still be left-turn oriented.

Navigation: After entering the park, turn left, and head for the back left parking lot. Dog park will be to the right, away in the distance and slightly right you may notice basket-9, and long tee-1 is in the middle of the open space, somewhat left. Short tee-1 is to the left, in the open but bordering the woods i tne corner. The tone and basket are not very far apart, straight ahead, barely in the woods.

Until/unless teesigns and directional signs are added to the course, the map is an absolute essential for navigating the course. The map is quite accurate, except for one detail - short tee-6 is next to long tee-3. When playing 3L/6S, use the tee to the left.

Whether or not the overall tightness of this course is merely quite challenging, or too extreme, would be an interesting debate for the technical gurus. Once this course has teesigns, some directional signs and performs some trimming, primarily on the early holes, I can imagine this course serving as a multi-level technical training ground - although disc search-and-rescue will probably always be a common occurrence.

While my rating for this course is "average", that is more about the cons balancing the pros - this course is anything but "typical".

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.


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