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5+    8/1/2013   8/6/2013
Review By: Russh
Played: 1  Reviewed: 1
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: great use of the limited space, nice group of locals always willing to show a newbie the course, trees make many of the holes play longer than they are. carpet pads hold up better in the rain than you would think.Rarely busy. This is the ONLY course i almost always get lost discs back from.
Cons: lots of dog walkers that don't clean up the poo!

1 of 1 people found this review helpful.

 Wouldn't go back

1    7/13/2013   7/16/2013
Review By: intheory87
Played: 1  Reviewed: 1
0 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: -Only course within 30 minutes
- Variety of holes for all players
-Wasn't a lot of traffic at the park
- Desent flow if you can find the tees
Cons: - Tee pads are covered with carpet, can only image how soaked they are after it rains.
- Hole one is very confusing, there is a sign but no pad
- Couldn't even find the tee for hole two, and only accidentally stumbled onto hole 5
- Tee signs were greatly inaccurate, sometimes the baskets wasn't even where the sign said it would be.
-Outside of the course is covered in thick brush, and houses making it a bitch to find a bad through.
- No locals present to help navigate the course
Other Thoughts: -Probably fun for locals that play the coarse often
-Pain in the ass for out of towners
-Could be really fun if they repaired some of the holes by add concert pads, and making sure all holes are properly marked.

0 of 2 people found this review helpful.

A Fun 9 Hole Course

5+    6/12/2012   10/12/2012
Review By: Geepster
Played: 32  Reviewed: 4  Exp: 3.8 Years
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Excellent use of the land provided. Even with the short distances of the holes the setup is such that no hole feels the same as the other. Quiet course. Friendly players.
Drains well and plays well in the rain.
Cons: Natural tees. Though #1,2,5 utilize existing gravel paths.
Other Thoughts: #5 is one of my favorite holes anywhere. It is a short hole with a slight elevation drop. The shot from the tee is through an overhanging branch and a tall shrub. It provides a great frame for the basket.
The other hole here that I love is #8. It is a alley shot through a grove of trees.
This is a great course for taking the kids along and is stroller friendly.

2 of 2 people found this review helpful.

A sweet and fast course

5+    9/20/2012   9/24/2012
Review By: Amuzed2pieces
Played: 2  Reviewed: 2
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Short, but well thought out holes, utilizing a variety of techniques. Friendly and helpful locals. Much under brush removed recently, a big project to clear out blackberries, makes its even better. Its a small area, but they did a great job with the design.
Cons: Some of the alternative tee's could be farther from the first set.
Other Thoughts: Never a wait, never an attitude.

1 of 1 people found this review helpful.

 Fun little intermediate 9 hole

1    8/29/2011   9/6/2011
Review By: b-mart
Played: 42  Reviewed: 36  Exp: 3.7 Years
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The baskets are pristine. Navigation is simple. Good use of the land provided. A good amount of challenge even though eight of the holes are well below 400 feet. Not too much rough but plenty of tight windows through the trees. The designer did a great job here.
Cons: The signage is temporary and won't survive the fall if my own experience of being a teenage boy was any indication (if you know what I mean). The signs rotate easily too, so it can be difficult to navigate if you aren't being alert. Elevation never comes into play on this course, but one can't quite call that a con when the piece of land provided is completely flat.
Other Thoughts: I really did enjoy this course. I didn't mind the natural tee pads because the course was so new. The designer made use of the gravel roads several times in place of tee pads, which is a great idea. As Carnation is isolated from the greater Seattle area, I don't expect a ton of play that will ultimately turn the teepads into obstacles like the ones at Sunnyside Park in Pullman. I would place this one right behind Howling Coyote in Bothell as the best 9 hole that I've played. Word is that there's sponsor money sitting out there waiting to be used too, which could turn into better signage and something other than white bricks in the ground to mark a teepad. Although I wouldn't drive all the way to Carnation just for this course, it's worth a look if you're in the area or heading up to Spirit Ridge.

4 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 Enjoyable Recreational Course!

1    8/22/2011   8/22/2011
Review By: The Valkyrie Kid
Played: 591  Reviewed: 544  Exp: 35.9 Years
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Loutsis Park is a fairly small, narrow, flat city in the quaint little town of Tolt or Carnation. Even the name is an interesting story. Save that for another day. This is another typical city park Rec course. It plays 4 holes out, 1 across and then the last four back to the parking lot. There is a nice mix of open, tight technical and lightly scattered mature treed holes. This mix of holes does give you a chance to use a variety of shots providing your best drive is about 280'. I found a roller worked well on # 9.
The pads are natural and are marked by two white painted bricks. Only one brick has disappeared thus far. The baskets are brand new out of the box DISCatchers. The tee signs are very simple little plastics. So far, they haven't been marked up or vandalized.
Cons: Like most of these Rec courses, the challenge isn't there if you are a serious intermediate player or better. There is some serious rough around # 5. Best to Advoid it.
I don't know that I think this course will ever see enough play to really do much damage to the teepad area. I think they're (the way they are) fine here and putting in pavers or concrete would amount to overkill. With enough players using this course, the pad areas would become problamatic over time aad then I think pavers would be a great solution but until that times comes, don't worry about it.
Other Thoughts: A solid beginners/Rec course. I hope the youth of Tolt/Carnation take up the cause, buy a few a discs and play the heck out of this course. Then they can graduate to Spirit Ridge, the big boy course up the road a spell. You see, I'm learning to talk just likes the loggers around here, ya'll.

4 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 Loutsis Park

2-4    8/15/2011   8/16/2011
Review By: JR Stengele
Played: 176  Reviewed: 169  Exp: 14 Years
This review was updated on 2/29/2012
7 Helpful / 0 Not
*Established in 2011, Loutsis Park is a fairly technical nine hole course located in the quaint city of Carnation, WA. Best suited for recreational and intermediate players, it is quite enjoyable for more experienced disc golfers as well. The designer Getty did a nice job utilizing the area he had to work with. What the course lacks in length it makes up for in creativity! Both the beginning and end have players throwing through tight lines of tress where holes #3-7 are more wide open. However, on the more wide open holes there is punishing rough and many of the pins are heavily guarded. Holes range in length but most range from 180-250 ft with the exception of hole #3 which breaks 400 ft.

*Flow to the course works well with the first five holes playing away from the parking lot, hole six playing perpendicular, and holes seven through nine playing back toward hole one. Navigation is easy for first timers thanks to tee signs, although basic, which are easy to locate from fairways and near the pins. Distance and par is given, and a few obstacles and the ideal flight line are listed although I am not sure how accurate that info is. Baskets are all DISCatchers and are in immaculate shape. Port o' Potty located near tee one.

Note: Since the last time I played there has been nine additional tee pads added (blue) which add more variety and some length to the course. Hopefully they will add more pin placements as well in the near future.

*Favorite hole/s: Hole #5 and Hole #8
*Loutsis Park although small, is ideal for those learning the sport or for more veteran players wanting to hone in on their skills. What the course lacks in length it makes up for in creativity! The largest issue is just how isolated this course is from the greater Seattle area. Fortunately, there is also Spirit Ridge, a wonderful little private course, just miles away which makes the combination of the two courses well worth the trip.

*Although the tee pads are natural, they really don't seem to have a negative impact on the course with the exception of hole #3. Considering it is the only hole that allows players to air it out, it is essential that there is good footing. Loose gravel and dirt along with uneven footing results in poorly executed throws and perhaps injuries.

*Over time as the fairways become more developed and the tee pads are installed, I could easily see my rating bump up .5 to 1 full point. As with any course, nothing is built in a day as it takes a lot of work to properly install and upkeep any course and this course is well on its way.

*Least Favorite Hole/s: Hole #4
Other Thoughts:
*For those traveling to the area for the first time and looking to get in multiple rounds at both Loutsis Park and Spirit Ridge, I highly recommend getting in touch with Ron Werner to schedule a round. He not only is an avid disc golfer, but also designed and maintains Spirit Ridge, and will guide you during your visit.

7 of 7 people found this review helpful.

 Newest East Side Course

1    8/15/2011   8/15/2011
Review By: sillybizz
Played: 187  Reviewed: 182  Exp: 10.8 Years
8 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This is a fairly technical short course that is a lot of fun. The starting and ending holes (1,2,8,9) are under a canopy and there are skinny, single trees all over the fairways that you weave your way through. These are my favorite types of holes because of the endless possibilities of routes and types of throws that can get you that birdie. Holes like these can be played over and over and not throw the same shot and/or line the entire time. The other holes that have obstacle challenges again have tight lines and low ceilings. The fun factor here is high with the birdie fest and easy to follow lay out that loops back around to the parking lot. This is an excellent course for newer players honing their skills, locals and passer by course baggers like myself. The course designer (Getty) has done an excellent job turning this little property into something fun.
Cons: The park is just too small to support any holes that are long enough to be challenging and most of the time you will be using your putter for these holes. Tee pads have rumored to be on the way and it really only affects the long, open hole three as it is hard to get distance with a bumpy tee pad. Even poor tee shots that hit trees are still able to get a three fairly easily, I would like to see the rough be more punishing; I wouldn't be a fan of clearing it. Really there are few cons here, just a couple of nit picky things, the big con is that the course isn't challenging.
Other Thoughts: This is a decent little option in Carnation if you want to kill some time. If you can, I would get a hold of Ron Werner who created the Spirit Ridge DGC and try and schedule a round there while you are here, it is an amazing experience and when added with this makes for a really fun day of golf.

8 of 8 people found this review helpful.

  The Nation

2-4    8/8/2011   8/9/2011
Review By: NBdiscgolfer
Played: 11  Reviewed: 1  Exp: 3.3 Years
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: -Great mix of tight and open holes
-Well maintained
-Great flow from hole to hole with signs at every hole
-Even the holes under 200ft still have a good challenge and its no guaranteed birde
Cons: -Only 9 holes(for now)
-Some of the baskets and placed in areas with to many over hanging limbs(IMO)
-A little more length would not hurt
Other Thoughts: All in all its a great fun little course. Great mix of open and tight holes. Good for begginers and more advanced players.

2 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Decent 9 hole course.

2-4    7/31/2011   7/31/2011
Review By: InnocentCrook
Played: 80  Reviewed: 9  Exp: 13.9 Years
10 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: -Nice, quiet, well-maintained park.
-Brand new DisCatcher baskets.
-Very easy to navigate.
-Tee signs at every hole which seems to be an oddity here in the Seattle area. Basic signs have hole number, simple hole diagram, par, distance, and next tee marked.
-Good course for beginners.
-Designer did about as much as possible with the available space, using the trees as best as possible to try to create some interesting shots.
-Most holes have more than one line to the basket which helps keeps things fair for lefties as well as righties.
Cons: -Lengthwise, the course is very monotonous as 6 of the 9 holes are between 227-259 feet. 2 holes at 180 feet (Hole 4 and 5), and one at 409 feet (Hole 3).
-Anyone with at least some level of skill/accuracy should be able to easily shoot par or better. Not very challenging for anyone other than beginners.
-A few holes are somewhat interesting, but for the most part it's all low-ceiling, moderately wooded shots.
-Hole 5's basket is surrounded at about 15-20' on three sides by nothing but dense thorny plants. Do not get off target.
-Natural tee pads are at the mercy of the weather (typically wet).

Other Thoughts: -Course occupies a very small strip of park space between two residential streets. Holes 1-4 work directly away from the parking lot, hole 5 runs perpendicular to all the others, then holes 6-9 take you straight back to the parking lot. The trail that runs the length of the park is utilized as the tee on holes 1, 2, and 5.
-Be mindful of people walking the trail as it is close to play for holes 1-4.
-No garbage cans except for the one at the parking lot so pack out any trash.
-I don't see how/where the additional 9 holes mentioned on the main course page are going to go. If they try to add 9 more tees and play to the existing baskets I have a feeling it will be way too cramped. I hope for the sake of the course there is additional space to be utilized.
-Not a bad little 9 holes course. I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to play it, but if you're close by it's worth a quick trip. -You could easily play this course with a mid and a putter and be done in less than 30 minutes.

10 of 10 people found this review helpful.

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