3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: New baskets, new signs, Engler Park in Farmington isn't too far of a drive.
Cons: City of Potosi seems to be more concerned with baling hay on the front 9 than maintaining a Disc Golf course. The front nine was grown up to knee length at best, waist length at worst.
4- 4 1/2 ft high chain link fences that are immediately next to 5 and 6 are not friendly to those that are new to the game, or if it's a windy day.
Tee signs seem to be randomly placed on either the right or left side of the tee box to keep you guessing which way you should be throwing. No signage to help direct you around the course, plan to have to perform some recon if you've not played before.
Hole design isn't really inventive on the front 9, granted there's not much to work with on the front nine other than, "hey lets stick the pin behind this tree".
On 5 a park bench is literally 7-8 ft in front of the pin facing the tee.
Hole 9 makes you choose between hoping you don't put it in the water if you go at the pin, or avoiding the water by landing on the steep embankment of the pond and letting your disc roll into the creek. There's no good decision on this hole.
Facilities hadn't been maintained in over a week, and we ended up having to drive back to the McDonalds we passed on the way to the park.
Other Thoughts: We had planned a day trip to hit Potosi, and then finish up at Engler Park in Farmington. We should have just planned to play Engler twice.
When we arrived at Potosi, we were pretty excited to get to play the new course. I'm a more experienced player, and my girlfriend is just starting to get into it. We needed to use the facilities, which were giant porta-potties, but they hadn't been maintained in what appeared to be over a week. The condition they were in made us get back in the car and go to the McDonalds we passed on the way in to use theirs. Once we got back to the park to play the course, we thoroughly enjoyed #1, and looked forward to the rest of the course.
Unfortunately there was no enjoyment after #1. The field that holes 2-8 are located in was so grown up that we spent more time looking for discs than we did playing. Discs that landed in the 'fairway' were no easier to locate than discs that landed in the 'rough'. There was no difference between 'fairway' and 'rough'. Your disc either landed in knee to waist high grass, or it landed in knee to waist high grass. The City of Potosi seems to not care if the course they just had installed is maintained, either that or they're planning on baling hay out of this section of the park.
Compound all of the time spent searching for discs with the time spent trying to figure out which way the hole is laid out, and/or which direction the next teepad is in. Hole signs weren't placed uniformly on the teepads. Some holes the sign was on the right of the teepad, other holes it was on the left. It seemed like a coin was flipped at each teepad to see which side the sign would go on, since there was no logic to dictate why they were placed as they were. Frequently we would have to scout out the pin to make sure we were headed in the right direction. There were also multiple times on the front nine that after finishing a hole you were left looking around in all directions for some clue as to how the course flowed. More scouting parties had to be sent out to find the next teepad.
On hole 5, a 4 - 4 1/2 ft high fence runs very tightly alongside the right. There is no easy access over the fence if a disc goes over, and once you manage to get over, it is so grown up that you can barely get through the vegetation. Beginner players will be left throwing out into the field and trying their luck finding their disc there rather than risking an errant shot going over the fence into Narnia. On hole six, the same fence comes into play very tightly on the right again, but instead of jungle on the right, you have a drop off of about 20 ft onto a highway. It was fairly windy the day we played, and I watched the wind grab a drive and take it over the road far enough that it wasn't able to come back into the park. Normally this wouldn't be an issue in most parks with OB fences and roads, but here you have to walk through waist high vegetation down the hill the highway is cut into so you can then walk back down to retrieve your disc. Once again beginner players are stuck playing around the hole to keep from losing discs, instead of playing the hole as designed.
The time spent looking for discs, looking for pins/teeboxes, and retrieving discs on the first 8 holes added up to equal how long it would normally take us to play 18 on a normal course. We had began to discuss whether it was even worth playing the rest of the course by hole 6, and were so fed up with the course by hole 9, that it's layout was the final straw. Hole 9 plays directly over the pond, and instead of being able to lay up or play safe, they designed it so you have to either tempt fate with the water and land on a small strip of bank, or throw around and land on a very steep embankment and let your disc roll down to the bottom. My girlfriend refused to play the hole. I watched a combination of a not quite perfect drive and the wind take my new wasp into the pond. Needless to say we decided that Engler Park would be a much better choice than playing the rest of this course.
The course in the state that is in now, with it's design flaws, seems to be one of the best courses to keep people from picking up the sport. Any beginners that play this course will probably be so frustrated that they either will not play the entire 18, or will be weaned off of the sport entirely if it's their first experience. If you're planning on playing this course, head to Engler Park in Farmington. Amazing course, and well worth the drive.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
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Pros: - Course is set in a large city park that has a pond, a creek, and some woods. There are a lot of other activities, but they are well separated from the disc golf. A few benches and stuff are spread among the course, there might be some interference.
- Many holes at the course play by a creekbed, with sloping terrain. #1 plays over the creek, #2's green slopes right towards the creek, and #11 and #12 also have baskets with the creek on the left. Definite possibility to roll in, even on a decent approach. Two holes also play over a small pond, #8 has water on the left, with trees on the right, #9 plays directly over the pond with the creek way behind the basket. Definitely a hazard!
- Holes make good use of the available woods to force line shaping. #2 is set up for a LHBH hyzer, #10 is a tight RHBH hyzer, #11 is a RHBH flick line, #14 is a sharp hyzer around some rough OR a big anny around the rough, definitely need to be accurate to avoid trouble. Mostly trees, but some nasty rough on #13 and #14.
- Remainder of the holes are pretty wide open, with one or no trees to worry about. #3, #4, #7, #15, #17, and #18 are open to almost any line. #5 and #6 are even more open, with fences on the right to worry about. There are some blind pins out here, and lots of gradual elevation changes, it is a good place for airing out drives for anybody.
- A few baskets are in troublesome areas, like by the creek, on slopes, behind trees or rough, and there is even some sort of meshing by #10's basket. Park road comes in play as well, for some extra OB.
- Good mix of hole length. The open bombers are obviously very long, #8 with water is still 490', #13 in the woods at 406', among the regular length ones.
- Natural tees are in good shape, and baskets are top notch. Signs are OK, some are pointed in different directions, but it's not too bad. Map helps for navigation. Good practice basket location by some trees.
Cons: - A lot of open holes here, pure grip and rip. I would say that 8 of the holes don't need any specific line, a hyzer from either direction is fine. Some artificial OB (roads/fences) is the real challenge, along with the long hole lengths.
- Bench is literally in the circle of #5's basket. Might want to move that...
Other Thoughts: - The interesting holes provide good fun, and challenge. The ones by the creek and the lake have real danger, and are set up well to make it really count. The two in the woods aren't too shabby either. But, the ones in the open are very bland, even with elevation changes and a few trees. Even so, a solid course that should challenge beginners and experienced players alike.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Excellent Course In The Making!
9 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: *Location - No other courses near the area.
*New - New baskets, signs in place.
Garbage Cans around and near softball/baseball fields.
Bathroom near #1 and I believe there is one near #12.
1 - The first of a number of nice scenic par 3's, that is pretty straight forward, but do not underestimate because any hit of the trees or bad bounce can cause your disc to roll into the creek.
2 - Actually much tougher in person than on paper, to lay one out in the field, approach one close, and putt in does happen, but the extreme angle of the hill causes occasional runaway discs, and unhappy scorecards. :(
3 - About as wide open, straight away par 3 as one could imagine. If you are RHBH or LHFH, aim right of the tree, and LHBH or RHFH aim left, so your approach shot will be much easier around the very large, many hanging branches, tree.
4 - Easiest hole on the front 9, shorter, and gives you room to get behind the tree without a steep angle to come in on.
5 - Long, uphill par 4, beware OB to the right over the fence. Just a uphill field, but it is a challenge still to make par sometimes. I have never made a 3 on this hole.
6 - Though not the prettiest hole, definately one that DGers will remember, a 650 foot par 3. With out of bounds on the right, it is not easy to power up if you occasionally grip lock one. (* There is a hole in the fence past the electric pole 50-100 foot. Use to retrieve OB discs) I have made par here 1 time.
7 - Unique uphill par 3 with a tree staring you in the face. So long as you get past the tree, it is not a tough par.
8 - The signature hole, at least I believe. Beautiful look at the lake. A 490 foot par 4. Get one out past the large tree, and getting home in 2 is not usually a problem. From behind the tree is a different story. Second, or Third if you laid up, shot will be in danger of water, so make a wise decision in disc selection, and be sure to read the wind. Great hole, fun risk/reward.
9 - Another hole with a great view of the lake, this hole is difficult knowing you have water short, and water long, so you must land it on a side hill, with the danger of a roll away into the creek below. Though not incredibly long, going at this basket is not always 'wise'.
10 - A great par 3 that I believe will be nice to look at during spring. Hidden in a grouping of trees, Hyzer route to the right, to find out there is a man made fence section (I believe it was there before, not placed for the hole) that was just genius, used to prevent people like me to simply hyzer into the basket. It even disrupts long putts, so even though this hole is short, 2's will be few I predict.
11 - Another beautiful par 3 that favors left to right disc movement.
12 - Deceptive. This straight ahead short hole, the garden spot to land is right of the basket, and like on #2, if you miss, you can get creek.
13 - All #13's should be spooky, and this one is. The creek is still to the right, but it now is really not in play. This is not a difficult par 3 right now, but the young trees will come into play in the years to come, and will make this a much more difficult hole.
14 - I am almost positive it is a mando right of the tree. Otherwise, if you throw over the mound for the basket, you will be throwing right at people playing #13. A hard left turning hole.
15 - This is the back 9 sibiling of #5 & #6. OB is on the left now with the fence and OB to the right in the disturbed land. A long narrow par 3.
16 - A shorter par 3 with danger of OB having to compensate teeing off behind a tree with too strong of a hyzer. Using the property to it's full potential in this situation.
17 - A open, but much shorter, 362 foot, uphill par 4. Like the other open holes, the only obsticle truly is distance. The rolling hills are nice to see.
18 - With a pin placement right on the parking lot, I foresee dentage. Always what a DGer likes to end on, a hole you can open up on, downhill, and enjoy the last flight before ending the day, beautiful view. *Just do not make the flight too long, or you may hit a vehicle.
Cons: *Overgrown Grass/No Fairways - Potosi has had a habit since the course's conception, to let the grass be wayyy overgrown. Sometimes it is cut, sometimes it is not.
*Tees - This may just be me, I hate natural tees.
*#10 hole - As if the hole was not difficult enough, if you are not athletic enough to rock jump across the creek, you will find yourself walking a long way over to the bridge tee off, just to walk all the way back to the bridge and back over, because you are throwing across the creek. There are large rocks in the stream, and it doesn't take a huge athletic effort, but my advice is wear mud shoes.
Other Thoughts: I wish #17 was the par 3, and #6 was the par 4.
Beyond that, what an awesome course. This is NOT a easy course. If nothing else, this is true Disc Golf in Missouri in my book, anyways, hiking up and down hills & jumping creeks.
Not too many locals play, the course is usually wide open to play.
You are in a rural area that knows NOTHING about Disc Golf. Every once in a while, someone would ask me, but as of yet, I have never seen another DGer play the course the same time I have.
I have had people pick up my discs after I throw them, and walk them back to me. Please be polite, they do not know or understand the sport.
PLEASE BE CAREFUL TEEING ON #18.
*Due to the continuous report that the course is not cutting the fairways, I have to rate it down.
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