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Reviews: 27
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Pleasantly Suprised 
Pros: This course is located in a small but very pretty park. It has a very nice wide creek bordering the length of the course (cmon its called Creekside). For how small a park this is there is quite a bit in it. Disc Golf, Sand Volleyball, horshoes, a nice playground, basketball court and a baseball field.
This course is highlighted by the 3 hole turn around called Monster Alley. Holes 14 - 16. These are the signature holes of the course. They are the only holes that really require you to perform very technical shots and force you to pick your landing spots carefully. Hole 16 is the only hole on the course with any significant elevation.
The Creekside Crawdads. The local disc golf club are all a blast to play with and keep this course in great shape. You can easily tell that they are super active on this course. They are very big on returning lost discs that they find (and they have found tons), so put your name on it use the information provided on the fence near #9's basket if you lose one or find one.
There are two pins for 11 holes and there are three tees for quite a few holes. Both of which add some nice variety to the course.
Within the limitations of the course there is a pretty good variety of shots required but make sure that you are handy with a Buzz or Roc.
Older Disc Catcher baskets are still in good shape and there are a plethora of score cards at Hole #1's tee.
This course is highlighted by the 3 hole turn around called Monster Alley. Holes 14 - 16. These are the signature holes of the course. They are the only holes that really require you to perform very technical shots and force you to pick your landing spots carefully. Hole 16 is the only hole on the course with any significant elevation.
The Creekside Crawdads. The local disc golf club are all a blast to play with and keep this course in great shape. You can easily tell that they are super active on this course. They are very big on returning lost discs that they find (and they have found tons), so put your name on it use the information provided on the fence near #9's basket if you lose one or find one.
There are two pins for 11 holes and there are three tees for quite a few holes. Both of which add some nice variety to the course.
Within the limitations of the course there is a pretty good variety of shots required but make sure that you are handy with a Buzz or Roc.
Older Disc Catcher baskets are still in good shape and there are a plethora of score cards at Hole #1's tee.
Cons: Mandos. This course by necessity has alot of mandos but I feel that courses with mandos just highlight the design flaws.
Hole Number 7. In the long position and obeying the posted mando it is just shy of impossible to get to this 200' hole. The only option I can see is a wicked cut roller. I would prefer just a short ace run rather that the current setup for this hole.
Tees. Every regular tee has a small patch of poured concrete which is nice to plant off even if your run up is a little difficult. The other two tees on each hole are thich soft mulch which is really difficult to drive out of. I think it would actually be better to throw off of grass or hard packed dirt.
Backyards lining one side of the course. Not really the fault of the course but I really feel bad that these people who live along the course have discs flying into their private property on a regular basis. It is depressing seeing a disc golfer jump a fence into a persons yard to retrieve their disc.
Hole Number 7. In the long position and obeying the posted mando it is just shy of impossible to get to this 200' hole. The only option I can see is a wicked cut roller. I would prefer just a short ace run rather that the current setup for this hole.
Tees. Every regular tee has a small patch of poured concrete which is nice to plant off even if your run up is a little difficult. The other two tees on each hole are thich soft mulch which is really difficult to drive out of. I think it would actually be better to throw off of grass or hard packed dirt.
Backyards lining one side of the course. Not really the fault of the course but I really feel bad that these people who live along the course have discs flying into their private property on a regular basis. It is depressing seeing a disc golfer jump a fence into a persons yard to retrieve their disc.
Other Thoughts: I was very pleasantly suprised by this course. From the previous reviews I thought every hole was going to be either an ace run or a lost disc. Instead I found a moderately difficult, if short course that with alot of OB and mandos that really made you think about your shots. I am extremly happy that I took the time to play this course.
I played in the Creekside Cooker III this past weekend and the Creekside Crawdads put on a great tourney. I had an absolute blast. I would recomend this annual tournament and this course to anyone in the area.
I played in the Creekside Cooker III this past weekend and the Creekside Crawdads put on a great tourney. I had an absolute blast. I would recomend this annual tournament and this course to anyone in the area.
7 of 8 people found this review helpful.
Report this Review 2010 Cooker layout
Pros: This was my first time venturing to Crawdad Country. I played in the 2k10 Cooker and played the long tees both rounds. I found the course to be quite challenging. From various pin positions that rewards daring shots to mandos which made a simple hole into a complex hole...all were great. Monster Alley...Hole 14-16 are wonderful! Hole 14 makes you really work on shot placement. Hole 15 two pin positions are both challenging with various lanes to get to the pins. Hole 16..from the elevated tee...was great! Again, shot placement was quite particular on this hole. The course had adequate navigation markings and the terrain other then hole 16 was quite flat.
Cons: The short tees are a challenge to use. They had added/extended with mulch which worked quite well. But the concrete pads need help. The playing next to backyards was tedious however with decent throws, there wasn't anything to worry about.
Other Thoughts: The Creekside did an outstanding job on utilizing the land they had. I would love to have a course like this in my backyard. I will be back! If you do head for a day of golf in/near Harrisburg, be sure to play here along with the Pinchot State Park courses.
4 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Park is overflowing with activity 
Pros: Course starts out with an easy birdie hole on 1.
Hole 16 has an interesting elevated tee to create a signature hole, and hole 17 has a novelty elevated basket.
Each hole had tee signs, junior tees, and clear tee pads.
Large playground available for the kids while you play.
Aestetically pleasing course along a rushing river.
Baskets have holders for lights for night golf, but I think I'll pass, it's easy enough to lose a disc in the day light.
Hole 16 has an interesting elevated tee to create a signature hole, and hole 17 has a novelty elevated basket.
Each hole had tee signs, junior tees, and clear tee pads.
Large playground available for the kids while you play.
Aestetically pleasing course along a rushing river.
Baskets have holders for lights for night golf, but I think I'll pass, it's easy enough to lose a disc in the day light.
Cons: Tee pads were tiny 3'x 3' squares for most holes. No where near large enough for any type of throw.
No way to know what position the baskets were in.
Park has too much going on, people were always in the way.
Just an overall dangerous course, you are either avoiding water, park users or people's property lines. There are not many areas where you can safely let it rip. I saw a lot of people playing with 1 disc and thought, "That's probably the only disc they have left, the rest are in the river"
Several holes are dangerously close to property lines (especially on hole 6):
Hole 8 has a mando that forces you to play closer to the property lines.
From Hole 9's tee you are looking down on basket 1, the basket for 9 is actually up by the houses with a busy pavilion and horseshoe pit on right.
10 was a Risky shot with rushing water on right and a volleyball court and parking lot on left. I was actually hit with a disc a guy threw from hole 10 while I was standing in the parking lot.
14-16 were off in their own area, it was a long muddy walk back to the tee for 17.
No way to know what position the baskets were in.
Park has too much going on, people were always in the way.
Just an overall dangerous course, you are either avoiding water, park users or people's property lines. There are not many areas where you can safely let it rip. I saw a lot of people playing with 1 disc and thought, "That's probably the only disc they have left, the rest are in the river"
Several holes are dangerously close to property lines (especially on hole 6):
Hole 8 has a mando that forces you to play closer to the property lines.
From Hole 9's tee you are looking down on basket 1, the basket for 9 is actually up by the houses with a busy pavilion and horseshoe pit on right.
10 was a Risky shot with rushing water on right and a volleyball court and parking lot on left. I was actually hit with a disc a guy threw from hole 10 while I was standing in the parking lot.
14-16 were off in their own area, it was a long muddy walk back to the tee for 17.
Other Thoughts: If you play you need to get there before the park starts getting crowded. I had swimmers sitting by baskets 4 and 10, picnickers in the way on 1 and 9, and dog walkers in the way on a few holes.
Beginners need to stick with the junior tees because of the risk of disc loss in the water, potential property damage, and risk of hitting park visitors.
the water in play starts out exciting, but quickly feels redundant. I threw discs into the water on holes 12, 13, and 14 (I got them all back). I really wish the hanging basket would have been up for #14 instead of another blind basket by the water.
Porto-potty by hole 11.
Beginners need to stick with the junior tees because of the risk of disc loss in the water, potential property damage, and risk of hitting park visitors.
the water in play starts out exciting, but quickly feels redundant. I threw discs into the water on holes 12, 13, and 14 (I got them all back). I really wish the hanging basket would have been up for #14 instead of another blind basket by the water.
Porto-potty by hole 11.
7 of 8 people found this review helpful.
Simple yet Fun 
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5/22/2010 
5/23/2010
Review By: Zaminski Played: 8 Reviewed: 6 Exp: 3.9 Years
This review was updated on 5/31/2010
Pros: The course is designed pretty well for the area it occupies. The river provides a good view. Most holes are fairly simple straight shots. Monster Alley is what sets this course apart from others though. Three holes in a very wooded area. I was shooting close to par before I entered the alley. Hole 16 has an amazing elevated tee, probably best elevation in central pa. Score cards provided and awesome course directories.
Cons: Every hole is pretty similar but fun to hit the pars and birdies. Hole 16 is the only elevation on the course. Tee pads are concrete but some are very short, I mean very short. Playing along backyards is always a con.
Other Thoughts: Seeing your disc in a backyard and knowing you can not get it always sucks. If you are in the area it is worth stopping in to play. The Crawdads do a good job of keeping the course nice. Would love to play at night on this course sometime.
1 of 4 people found this review helpful.
Worth Your While 
Pros: Nice setting along the Condoguinet River. Good use of available space and easy to navigate with wooden "next tee' signs affixed to the bottom of each basket. Multiple pin settings on some of the holes and good balance of open (front 9) vs. more technical (back 9) holes. The hanging basket on 14, the 35-40 foot high tee off area on 16 and the railroad tie/elevated tees on 10 and 17 are highlights.
Cons: Claustrophobic and tight, through no fault of the designer- it's just the way the land is. It is simply too narrow throughout much of the course, and several holes run parallel to one another out of necessity. Concrete tees a bit too short. Pedestrians, kids playing and peoples' back yards are a major factor. It looks as if a garbage dump litters the hill behind the houses bordering holes 15 and 16. Very soft and soggy in spots.
Other Thoughts: Designer Jeff "Crawdaddy" Manatt did a commendable job on this course despite little to work with. While it is not on a par with some of the "upper tier" courses in the central PA area, it is definitely an enjoyable play for people with varying ability levels. Make a day of it and play this course before going to Lewisberry to play Gifford Pinchot State Park.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Slight Arc
Pros:
Two 9-hole loops. Nice view of the river during most every hole. Easy course to navigate. Over half the holes have much-shorter alternate recreation-level tees. Next tee arrows on bottom of basket.
Two 9-hole loops. Nice view of the river during most every hole. Easy course to navigate. Over half the holes have much-shorter alternate recreation-level tees. Next tee arrows on bottom of basket.
Cons:
Concrete tees a bit too short. Primarily single tee/basket. Many holes play similarly - about 275', fade left. Users of the baseball field, volleyball court, pavilion, walking paths, and/or open space could make several holes unplayable.
Concrete tees a bit too short. Primarily single tee/basket. Many holes play similarly - about 275', fade left. Users of the baseball field, volleyball court, pavilion, walking paths, and/or open space could make several holes unplayable.
Other Thoughts:
Plays in a multi-use park which exists on a narrow strip of flat land located between a bend in the river and houses. A few open holes, most holes have a large tree or two mid-flight to avoid. #14-16, in a more unkempt part of the park, offer a slightly different challenge - many more trees to avoid, more turns to make, and much longer. Elevated on #16 really adds to the challenge of the hole.
Overall, a solid course, making the most of the land it had with which it had to work.
Plays in a multi-use park which exists on a narrow strip of flat land located between a bend in the river and houses. A few open holes, most holes have a large tree or two mid-flight to avoid. #14-16, in a more unkempt part of the park, offer a slightly different challenge - many more trees to avoid, more turns to make, and much longer. Elevated on #16 really adds to the challenge of the hole.
Overall, a solid course, making the most of the land it had with which it had to work.
7 of 7 people found this review helpful.
Kind of disappointed 1 8/19/2009 8/19/2009
Review By: IAMGT Played: 20 Reviewed: 18 Exp: 6 Years
This review was updated on 6/19/2010
Pros: I think the setting for this course is great. It is a really pretty park right on the creek and it has a very homey feel. You almost feel like you're in your backyard. I've always heard how creekside was pretty and a must play, and I agree it is a really cool pretty piece of land. 16's elevated tee was an awesome first shot. You don't get to play many holes like that where you are so high up above the fairway. The front nine on this course is pretty easy and it is not hard to shoot par. The course itself, was very well maintained, grounds people were really courteous as if you were on a ball golf course and would shut their mower off when you were about to throw.
Cons: Okay, so I had high expectations for this course after hearing so much about it. I'm not going to lie, I was a little disappointed. This course has/had a lot of potential, but the designers could have changed a few holes. Number 7 is a ridiculous par 3. I think that someone originally put it there and thought that it would be a really easy hole at only 100something feet...but then decided this was too easy, so they make you throw around some random mandatory tree that takes away all chance of throwing an ACE. I'm not bitter about the hole because I still did play it well, I just think it could have been designed better. 14 is just absolutely insane. I would love to be with someone who made par on this hole when it's in the furthest position. My buddy had 3 great shots to get himself only within 50 feet from putting. I'm not saying it's impossible...but I can't see many people parring, or ever getting a 3 on it. I would just like to see someone's plan of attack at parring that hole.
Other Thoughts: The majority of this course is pretty easy. Play smart when you are throwing near the creek, and you will be fine. Even if you go for it on some of the creek holes, you really have to shank it far into creek to not be able to retrieve it. The front 9 should not be much above par, or at all....but the back 9 is a different story, as 14 and 16 can both be really tough holes. FINAL THOUGHT: I drove from york to come up and play creekside today...If I'm doing this again, I would rather play both pinchot courses or drive south to codorus before I make the venture back to creekside.
7 of 8 people found this review helpful.
EEEK the CREEK!
Pros: If you like danger.....you will love this course. 8 of these holes run parallel for the entire fairway to the mighty Conodoguinet River. Thats a big deep wide swift moving river, sorry it's no creek. The basket positions often are just a few feet from the banks as well. Theres a hanging basket on hole 14, a pleasant surprise. Concrete tees, small but reasonable. Great signs. An elevated basket on hole 17. Nice low ceiling shuleless drives in a pleasant well maintained suburban park. It's a nice park with genuinely friendly people throughout. What made me really smile here was the amazing teepad for hole 16........after playing 15 flat holes I was instructed by a sign to follow a path to a staircase that rose high above the park.....eventually I was 30-40 feet above the ground and there was a tee pad shooting back down through a chute of trees to a long par 4 fairway. After driving it was down another staircase to the ground below. Remarkable! this really influenced me to boost the score for this course. There are shortie tees here that will help mitigate the risk for newbies. 18 finishes with a basket islanded by access roads. If it's not the river playing with your head then it's the backyards....Every hole has a true element of risk that could destroy your score and your bag as you often can lose discs here to the river. "Monster Alley" has some surprises and it's evident the locals are doing all they can to make the best of this tiny horseshoe shaped piece of land on the bend of the river.
Cons: The river really is a disc gobbler and often I found myself wimping out rather than lose my 3rd disc of the day....so at some points I wasn't really playing as much as I was just throwing little pooch drives despite the reachability of the baskets. If the creek and yards were not present this would be the perfect beginner course. But it's not...just too much risk on this tight sliver of land. No elevation outside of the mighty hole 16. Plinko along a river is really not fun on hole 14. Hit a tree go swimming....yuck. Walking path comes in play for most of front 9 increasing risk for OOB and the public.
Other Thoughts: This was a unique course that I would encourage people to play...there is some length and some fun to be had. I am not a fan of water holes so I listed much of that as a con....If you enjoy the danger and the high risk/reward element and don't mind losing a few discs you will really love this place.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
Great for new players. 
Pros: Great for beginners and recreational players. The front nine are quick and enjoyable with the only big challenge being avoiding the creek. The back nine are a bit more challenging, especially the section called Monster Alley (holes 14,15,and 16). Not too crowded but the people that do play are friendly as are the other pedestrians in the park. The park is well maintained and they often have some kind of tournament or other event going on in the warmer months. They also play some night games every once in a while. If you live within an hour of the place you owe it to yourself to check it out.
Cons: The creek can be a disc graveyard. It's easy enough though to fish your disc out if the water isn't moving too fast and you don't mind getting wet.
Other Thoughts: My friend bought a house on Erford Rd last summer so this course is literally in his backyard. We started playing shortly after and now play this course at least once a week. I've only played on two other local courses so I might not be the greatest judge but this is the best around IMHO. Nice park with a relaxed feeling and no hiking up big hills or wandering around the woods looking for your disc. Great place to bring players new to DG.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Nice use of land!
Pros: The course is in a pretty park setting with other facilities on the premises... playground, ball field, etc. Plus you can see a lot of different species of birds on the creek... cranes, ducks, etc.
Excellent use of the limiting, narrow tract of land that this park is on. Most holes are bordered by either a creek or private properties on one side or the other. The length isn't overwhelming so having these hazards to work around makes the holes a lot more interesting. The creek just calls out to you... feed me!
Most of the holes play through grassy fields with a few large trees dictating the path that you take to the pin. So the fairways are all clearly defined. The mandos make sense and really add to a couple of the holes that would otherwise play extremely short.
There are a couple holes that play in pretty thick woods. These help to break up the feel of the course a little.
The signage is OK and gets you around the course pretty well. I'd definitely recommend going to the courses site and printing their nice map too, though. There are concrete tees along with shorter natural tees on a lot of the holes. The baskets are nice and in good shape.
This course is a very nice beginner course. Even with the OB yards and creek, if you're not trying to get close to the pins on your tee shots, you can pretty easily avoid going OB. So the OB shouldn't suck in too many beginner shots as there is normally plenty of room to throw away from the OB. It just won't get you the best score that way.
The course should still prove interesting to experienced players looking for a quick 18. The creek provides some definite risk/reward opportunities if you really go for the pins to shoot for birdies.
Creekside is pretty close to a lot of different things to do around Harrisburg. Shopping, restaurants, etc. are all reasonably close.
Excellent use of the limiting, narrow tract of land that this park is on. Most holes are bordered by either a creek or private properties on one side or the other. The length isn't overwhelming so having these hazards to work around makes the holes a lot more interesting. The creek just calls out to you... feed me!
Most of the holes play through grassy fields with a few large trees dictating the path that you take to the pin. So the fairways are all clearly defined. The mandos make sense and really add to a couple of the holes that would otherwise play extremely short.
There are a couple holes that play in pretty thick woods. These help to break up the feel of the course a little.
The signage is OK and gets you around the course pretty well. I'd definitely recommend going to the courses site and printing their nice map too, though. There are concrete tees along with shorter natural tees on a lot of the holes. The baskets are nice and in good shape.
This course is a very nice beginner course. Even with the OB yards and creek, if you're not trying to get close to the pins on your tee shots, you can pretty easily avoid going OB. So the OB shouldn't suck in too many beginner shots as there is normally plenty of room to throw away from the OB. It just won't get you the best score that way.
The course should still prove interesting to experienced players looking for a quick 18. The creek provides some definite risk/reward opportunities if you really go for the pins to shoot for birdies.
Creekside is pretty close to a lot of different things to do around Harrisburg. Shopping, restaurants, etc. are all reasonably close.
Cons: Because of the limitations of the property, there isn't a big amount of variety to the holes. A lot of the holes feel pretty similar to each other, ie. nice grassy holes with just a couple trees to avoid. The course doesn't have much elevation in play. And you're never throwing over the creek, just alongside it. The course doesn't require a lot of technical or really creative shots. Other than the creek and the yards, there's not a whole lot of trouble that you can get into generally speaking, which seems to make the course play pretty easy.
Other Thoughts: I hope that my review doesn't come off as sounding too negative about this course. I had a really good time playing it. And given the opportunity, if I'm in the Harrisburg, PA area again I'll definitely be back.
#10 would have to be my favorite hole on the course. This is a big risk/reward hole, as I mentioned before. It's 293' long. I can drive a little over 300' consistently now, so this is within my driving range. However, my accuracy at 300' still needs some work. So with the creek lining the fairway almost the entire way on the right, and with an OB parking lot on the left when you get closer to the pin, you have a very narrow opening to thread to get close to the pin with your drive if you're trying for a birdie.
All in all, it's definitely worth playing a round here. Just don't go too far out of your way or set your expectations too high and you shouldn't be disappointed.
#10 would have to be my favorite hole on the course. This is a big risk/reward hole, as I mentioned before. It's 293' long. I can drive a little over 300' consistently now, so this is within my driving range. However, my accuracy at 300' still needs some work. So with the creek lining the fairway almost the entire way on the right, and with an OB parking lot on the left when you get closer to the pin, you have a very narrow opening to thread to get close to the pin with your drive if you're trying for a birdie.
All in all, it's definitely worth playing a round here. Just don't go too far out of your way or set your expectations too high and you shouldn't be disappointed.
7 of 7 people found this review helpful.
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