2 Helpful / 2 Not
City Skunk Surprise
Pros: A very scenic and relaxing city course named for the military complex surrounding it. The course plays mostly open with big hardwoods framing most of the holes. There are a couple of lightly wooded spots on both the front and back 9, which mixes up the flow nicely....also some nice use of elevation throughout. Holes are not too long for beginner/intermediate players to shoot pars...but long enough to still give a challenge for more advanced players to shoot lots of birdies. Overall...the holes are well designed with good flow...and the lines were fun and interesting to throw...I was tempted to empty my bag often.
The back 9 plays near some pretty sketchy looking apartments...had me watching over my shoulder.....I don't think I would play here alone again unless there are lots of other golfers around.
Other Thoughts: Ran into a very confused looking skunk behind Hole 18's basket...he seemed to have no fear of humans whatsoever. He was just chillin' I guess.
2 of 4 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 5 Not
Pros: I nice course with different types of shots needed. Some left and right hand curves. Along with some short and some longer holes.
Cons: Holes 3 & 4 are very wooded and kind of ridiculous. My buddy playing for the first time lost a disc on hole 5. Shouldn't have happened, but what can you do. If you find a white Tee Bird with a bunch of marker drawing on the front enjoy:)
Other Thoughts: Course has good maps at the first tee and the course follows nicely.
1 of 6 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: This was an awesome course. Here are the pros
*Variety!!! In my opinion, this should be this course's "claim to fame." Shots of varying types on every single hole! Several holes forced you to decide if you wanted to go for it all or lay up and settle for a three, rather go for a 2 but risk getting a potential 5. Each hole has about 4 pin placements each of which are very different from the others on the same hole. If for some reason you don't like the course at a certain time of the year, try coming back in a little bit; it is likely it will play completely different.
*Upkeep... the local club has invested lots of money into this course and from what i've hear, they'll keep doing it. Nice VISIBLE signs indicating mandos!
*Elevation... very unique use of elevation when i was here. just about every had some uphill or downhill element
*Challenge. Enough trees here to force a player to have good technical shots, but enough distance here to force a player to bust out the drivers.
Cons: Flow here is bad... signage could definitely be improved. If we magically lined up the holes so that each tee pad could easily be seen from the previous pin, and made more descriptive signs, it would be a perfect course!
Other Thoughts: If the St Louis Disc Golf Club keeps up the good work and gets new tee signs, this course just might notch a 5.0. Definitely worth going out of your way for.
5 of 6 people found this review helpful.
10 Helpful / 0 Not
Please spread my ashes here!
Pros: - Awesome variety of disc golf shots - uphill, downhill, righty, lefty, long, short, heavily wooded, mildly wooded, open, treacherous greens...you name it and its probably got it!
- Friendly locals that love to show visitors a good time (and possibly a little friendly competition).
- Pins are moved on a regular basis.
- Front and back nines loop at the same parking lot with restrooms, a drinking fountain, and a tournament shelter.
- Trash cans and benches on every hole.
- Buried concrete pillars 6 feet from almost every pin position with a painted arrow pointing you directly to the next tee. If you know this secret, you can't get lost. Even if the last pin you played for some reason doesn't have one, just check one of the other pin positions on that hole.
- Great kiosk that is chock full of information, scorecards, and pencils.
- Beautiful landscape under some awesome old growth oaks that makes for a great walk, even on the worst of golf days.
Cons: - Poor tee signage. This is only an issue for literally the next week, as the new full color signs are on the way! I have seen them, and it will be a HUGE improvement.
- Trash. Unfortunately the apartment complex neighbors don't seem to care about hitting the dumpsters when they take out their trash. One day it can be clean as a whistle, and the next it can literally look like someone flung their trashbag into the park intentionally. It's a shame, but it only happens in that particular part of the course.
- It can be a bit crowded. It's a great layout, so what do you expect?
Other Thoughts: This is quite possibly the most played course in all of the STL metro and surrounding areas. It started off its life as a 9 hole layout sometime around 1991 and eventually turned into a 18 hole layout in 1994. The original 18 hole design utilized 1 pin position and 3 tee positions (natural) per hole. The short positions (red) were just a bit more than a pitch-n-putt and the long positions (blue) added quite a bit of distance and challenge, turning the course into a true tournament layout. It certainly offered a unique range of play, to say the least. Sometime around 2004, it was decided that concrete tee-pads were the next logical step and the course underwent a major re-design. More land was incorporated for a few holes and the overall layout was spread out a bit. Over the period of the next few years, 2-4 extra pin positions were added to every hole, once again giving it a great amount of variety. You can rest assured that no basket will ever get rusted in place, as the baskets are continually moved around by a handful of dedicated course addicts and league barons. The course has constantly been upgraded with custom benches on every hole, bridges throughout, trashcans at every tee, brooms on almost every hole, next tee guidance arrows, and other various beautifications. It is obvious that this course is loved by many. The old Mach III baskets (originally under water at Creve Couer Lake during the Great Flood of 1993) were replaced in 2011 with new ones with custom number plates.
This course can be described as a long par 3 for the most part. In its longest settings, the course maxes out well above 7,000 feet, with only a few par 4's mixed in. It is a technical layout through beautiful old hardwoods (100+ years old) and tough, but not too taxing, rolling hills. It has a great mix of every shot in the bag. With 4-5 pins per hole, the combinations are literally endless. There are a couple of opportunities to really air it out, but there really aren't any "open" holes. If you aren't hitting your lines, this course will let you know it...just ask Barry Schultz (had his worst rated round here in the 2009 STLO). It fits the true definition of a course intermingled with the rest of a multi-use park. There are walking paths, parking lots, and other amenities that surround the course, but only come into play if you really try to do so (or have a really bad shot). The course is maintained by the park staff and recycling locals quite well, so there isn't too much trash to deal with. The only exception to this is along the parking lot of an apartment complex on holes 15-18. The locals do their best, but it unfortunately is an uphill battle. If you are playing the course, chip in, and help us pick up a few pieces of trash.
10 of 10 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 3 Not
My new favorite course
Pros: I love park-type courses with old oak trees and this is the most superb example I've played. My brother and I got a kick out of the "acorn rainstorm" those old oaks threw at us. Three pros make this course really shine, in my opinion. 1) There just aren't any bad or boring holes (ok, except for #6). In fact, many of the holes were those kinds of "wonder holes" that I only find one or two of on most courses - you know, the kind where you stand at the tee box and break into a smile about just getting to take a shot on such a beautiful hole. 2) This course penalizes you if you miss your drive. It's not easy to scramble back for a 3 if you don't hit the right lines. And, while I don't like that on my scorecard, I do appreciate that kind of fairness on a course, and it's rare. 3) This course makes you turn your disc to the right. It must be so easy to give in to the course design temptation to fill a course with those hyzer shots that come so naturally to right handers throwing backhand. It's hard to get a disc to turn right - but you better learn how if you want low scores at JB!
Cons: No negatives, in my opinion. Yes, there is a lack of signage, as everyone notes. But that is cancelled out by the friendly locals who are glad to point you in the right direction. There seemed to be no lack of such locals even on a Thursday morning.
Other Thoughts: I like JB a thousand times better than Sioux Passage!
3 of 6 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 4 Not
One of St. Louis' Best
Pros: Jefferson Barracks is one of, if not the best course in the St. Louis area. It's very easy to find in south St. Louis County, accessible from both sides of the river via the Jefferson Barracks bridge. The course is set in a moderately wooded park with rolling hills, offering an excellent variety of tight, short holes as well as open, long ones. It's almost impossible not to enjoy playing this course!
Cons: The course does get close to some lower-income housing areas on the west side of the park, and there are a few holes with a fairly long walk between them, but other than that you'd have to be awfully nitpicky to find something wrong here.
Other Thoughts: The leaves get a bit heavy in the fall in many of the lower spots on the course, so be sure you watch your disc, but this David McCormack design is a must-play!
1 of 5 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 1 Not
One of STL's Absolute Best
Pros: - This is my home course, and how lucky am I!! Great course playing through a majestic tree filled park with hills and big valleys to throw over.
- Each hole has excellent concrete tee pads (with new tee pad signs!!!!!!!!!) as well as multiple pin locations, at least 3 on every hole which are changed quite frequently. This adds an excellent amount of diversity to the course because you could potentially play a different course each time you play.
- The course demands near perfection on most every shot. If you dont need to weave through huge trees, then you must clear long valleys and turn your discs perfectly to execute and score well here. Every hole is a par 3 and all but 2 give you a very good possibility to birdie or par on most locations.
- The people here are excellent. Very helpful, very understanding, very outgoing and polite. If you are new and need directions to a hole just ask anyone on the course and they will gladly help you and most likely offer to play with you to help you along the way.
- Every shot in your bag will be tested: hyzer, anhyzer, overhands, touch shots, deep bombs, controlled midrange/putters, everything you could want. And with the pins moving frequently, you get a great variety of shots every time you play.
Cons: -Now that they have FINALLY put tee signs in, this, in my opinion, is a PERFECT course. I love nothing more than spending a day out here and playing as many rounds as I can.
Other Thoughts: Wide variety of distances and shots, you will never be bored playing this course. One of my favorite holes is #3, when you have to shoot through a tunnel and over a valley at least 300 feet to just reach the first position. Believe me, until you step up to the tee, you dont really comprehend the hole and its difficulty. If you live in the STL area and havent played this course, get out there and play this course today. I guarantee you will be impressed.
2 of 3 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: I love the terrain variety and the general layout of most of the course. The long concrete tees are a plus and there are benches at every one. Short walking distances from basket to the next tee. There are many opportunities to use a good variety of discs and styles to get the right approach and there are so many shots that tease you to take a gamble when you know you ought to play it safe.
It's nice that there is a decent restroom between 5 and 6. Good place to meet lots of other DG players.
Brand new (well refurbished to new condition) baskets with great, custom number plates.
Cons: This course is almost always way too crowded. I have frequently had to wait for more than 10 minutes to throw at each tee because of the crowds. This will often lead to other players trying to get you to 'group-up' with them which usually ends up making your game take even longer. Much of the time, the people inviting turn out to be drunk or subject you to unwelcome/inappropriate jokes and comments. Another "con" to this course is the very thick, overgrown vines that are almost completely choking out all the smaller trees and bushes around the course and make it near impossible to find a disc that goes even a few feet off the fairway on any of the holes. It's evident that people lose a whole lot of discs here because I keep finding other peoples MIA discs while looking for mine (which I almost never find). Another con is the bog that has formed in the valley in the middle of holes 9 and 10, but the folks from the local club have built two very nice little bridges across most of it (thanks).
Other Thoughts: There IS a lot to love about this course, but you ought to go at odd times when everybody else is either at work or still in bed - the course is much more fun then. I'd probably avoid this course during the late spring, summer and early fall unless you are cool with losing discs or are good enough to always throw exactly where you want and as far as you want. Wait until all the foliage has fallen off and/or go in the early spring before it all grows back to have a much less stressful game. Seriously, the parks dept. here needs to get the vines and underbrush cleaned up before it gets any worse and goes beyond the point of recovery.
4 of 8 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 0 Not
St. Louis Best
Pros: Gorgeous and dynamic course in all seasons. This course has a variety of pin positions that are moved weekly by the local club. There are always locals on the course who will point you in the right direction. Front and back nines start and finish at the same parking lot with ample parking, restrooms, drinking fountain, and a shelter for group events. There are trash cans on nearly every hole and benches on all of them. Plenty of shade in the summertime from the massive trees and the grass is well maintained by park services. There is a great mix of tightly wooded, mildly wooded, and open fairway holes that keep the course exciting.
Cons: Cons would include poor signage which according to the kiosk will be upgraded soon. A few holes of the back nine are by a trashy apartment complex that discards a lot of garbage into the woods. Their kids may also give you a rough time picking up your disc or just mindless yelling.
Other Thoughts: This is my home course and the reason I got into disc golf as big as I did. In another year when the new signs are in place, I could see this course becoming a big contender for a top 10 spot on DGCR.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
7 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: The course plays through a sprawling park with no other park uses in the way. There is a great mix of park style holes with mature trees, tight tunnel shots through brushy woods, and a few pretty open shots mixed in. The pin set I played had a really good balance of lefty and righty holes with a great mix of hole shapes that keeps you trying different lines. There was also a good mix of short holes where an ace run is possible with a good drive and some longer holes where you'll want to take a good rip with a driver through the trees.
The alternate pin positions do a great job of changing up the course. Apparently they move pretty often, and are usually in a nice balanced mix, which would really keep the course interesting and fun. The tees were good concrete pads with an ok surface and enough room for the most part. The current pin position was marked with a bolt on the basic hole signs, a nice plus as long as you know the course.
Cons: There is a bad lack of signage here. The tee signs have only distance and current pin position. They have no clue as to the direction to any of the pin locations, and many holes are blind so you do a lot of extra walking to figure out where the holes are. There are a lot of spots where the next tee is not at all obvious, a map or guide is a big plus here if you don't want to do lots of extra wandering.
The grass was a little long when I played, and a local told me that was a continuing issue with the parks people who won't mow and won't allow the club to do the mowing. There was also trash, especially on the more wooded areas of the course.
Other Thoughts: This is a fun course with a ton of variety. The elevation available is used superbly to add challenge and some great downhill shots. There is enough danger on some of the holes that errant shots are punished, but it didn't seem like a disc eating course at all. Beginners might find it a bit long, but it's not too tight. More experienced players will find it a bit deuce or die, but in a fun way with some good challenges. In a tournament set up with more of the longer pin placements it could be a great challenge. The club obviously puts in a ton of work, and it shows, with even more pin placements in the works.
7 of 8 people found this review helpful.
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