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Hole #13 (Taken 7/2012)
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Course Design Changes
Pros: New equipment, excellent grounds maintenance, great views. New tees (short, regular, long) and basket relocations make course great for any skill level. Three holes in woods with permanent double basket locations and 5 more wooded holes with "object" pins make for a challenging course.
Cons: Two major construction areas cause some inconvenience navigating the course, but all of the holes remain playable. Some of the construction (installation of 42" pipe from expanded water treatment facility on west end of course and installation of 54" drain line on east end) may continue for as long as 18 months.
Other Thoughts: The original course layout has been modified considerably, thanks to Glen Hatfield, and many comments by previous reviewers no longer apply. For example, Holes 2, 3 and 4 now play through woods north of the basket for Hole 1; the parallel counterflow fairways for original Holes 2, 3 and 4 have been eliminated. Also, original Holes 13, 14, 15, 17 and 18 have been redesigned, improving the course flow, increasing the difficulty and decreasing the distance form Hole 18's basket back to Hole 1.
The redesign of Holes 15 and 17 takes the Water Treatment Plant fence out of play.
New tees have been marked temporarily with painted fence posts - each hole has red (short), white (original) and blue (long) tees. Playing the blue tees will add ~500' to the course length, likely making it >7000'.
The "natural" tees remain, and with the reality that Lake Montebello is the principal water treatment facility for Baltimore, it's likely that future construction might occur anywhere, and unlikely that concrete pads (or even Fly 18 pads) will be installed. Meanwhile, when dry, the tee areas are fine. If it has rained, then the tees might be muddy. In that case, "liberal tees" apply, i.e., move over to the side and throw (just like you would with a fairway lie)..
New wooded Holes 2, 3 and 4 and the five "X-holes" on the Herring Run side of the course add a dimension to the course that was, admittedly, absent from the original design.
(Btw, the "barbed wire" fence that a couple of reviewers have characterized as pervading the whole course, only comes into play on Hole 14 (original Hole 12) and, somewhat, Hole 1. Any reasonably-skilled player should be able to throw a straight drive on Hole 1 and a low drive on Hole 14 that avoid the fence.)
Also, the orange snow fencing surrounding some of the trees on the course is there only to protect the trees from the construction equipment. It will be removed when construction is completed. It is not intended to restrict disc golf activity; i.e., feel free to hop the (orange) fencing to play your lie!
The redesign of Holes 15 and 17 takes the Water Treatment Plant fence out of play.
New tees have been marked temporarily with painted fence posts - each hole has red (short), white (original) and blue (long) tees. Playing the blue tees will add ~500' to the course length, likely making it >7000'.
The "natural" tees remain, and with the reality that Lake Montebello is the principal water treatment facility for Baltimore, it's likely that future construction might occur anywhere, and unlikely that concrete pads (or even Fly 18 pads) will be installed. Meanwhile, when dry, the tee areas are fine. If it has rained, then the tees might be muddy. In that case, "liberal tees" apply, i.e., move over to the side and throw (just like you would with a fairway lie)..
New wooded Holes 2, 3 and 4 and the five "X-holes" on the Herring Run side of the course add a dimension to the course that was, admittedly, absent from the original design.
(Btw, the "barbed wire" fence that a couple of reviewers have characterized as pervading the whole course, only comes into play on Hole 14 (original Hole 12) and, somewhat, Hole 1. Any reasonably-skilled player should be able to throw a straight drive on Hole 1 and a low drive on Hole 14 that avoid the fence.)
Also, the orange snow fencing surrounding some of the trees on the course is there only to protect the trees from the construction equipment. It will be removed when construction is completed. It is not intended to restrict disc golf activity; i.e., feel free to hop the (orange) fencing to play your lie!
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Report this Review Monte's Python Redux
2-4 
5/9/2013 
11/13/2011
Review By: sidewinder22 
Played: 55 Reviewed: 47 Exp: 6.8 Years
This review was updated on 5/12/2013
Pros: 18 holes with 3 sets of natural tees for most holes providing an excellent variety of par 3s and 4s, distances and challenge. Uphill, downhill, sideways, to the right, to the left, straight, fast greens, OB, risk/reward, you name it, you got it. 18 Discatcher baskets and a few extra baskets on some holes with permanent A/B positions. 10 holes have A/B positions, and the other 8 are single pin positions. The course plays the woods and around the more open lake front so now there's something for everyone. There is a ton of elevation throughout the course and a few flat holes and the use and design is excellent. Water fountain over by the basket of 17 near the pump house by the street.
Cons: Signage is a little lacking and navigation was tricky the first time without a map. For some natural tees are a con, however I don't really have a problem with them. Poison ivy in the woods and some thick rough, but this should improve as it gets played and sprayed. Tall grass on hole 8 that won't get mowed but most people should clear it if they are using the appropriate skill level tee pad. Crossing fairway on hole 11 from the long tee on hole 12, and crossing fairway on hole 16 B pin from short tee on 17, these shouldn't be a huge issue though. Potential of disc loss is real. Holes 1 and 14 play near the barbed wire fence of the water treatment plant, but poses little health risk, just loss of disc on bad shots. Some park patrons will camp right in the fairway or by the basket, so beware of where you throw. No bathrooms.
Other Thoughts: Monte's new long python layout is pretty sweet. It's one of the longest and has the most elevation and variety of Md's public courses. With the new holes through the woods Monte has the variety it was missing before. Now you play some long wooded holes with a lot of elevation and danger off the fairways, with some deep ditches and big cliffs! Even the more open holes around the lake front have been redesigned and use more of the woods. Now you tee off in the woods or play into the woods on some holes and add a whole new dimension. There are a number of holes where you can rip a distance driver, but still want to land safe from trees or OB to set up the next shot on the par 4s. You also have to play the wind around the lake. If you like to watch discs fly this is the place to be!
The park is pretty with the lake backdrop and manicured lake front fairways. There are lots of people walking, biking, working out around the lake so it should be relatively safe given the hood it's in. All the people can also be a con, although there was no one else playing the course when I was there. I would watch your back though and beware your surrounding especially on the backside of the woods where most people aren't. There was some party near the park and the music was pumping through the woods, I enjoyed it. There are little workout areas around the Lake if you miss a shot and want to do some pull ups or elliptical or go run or bring your bike and ride around the lake for a workout. There is a 6 hole beginner course on the other side of the Lake that can be used as a warm up or ace run.
The park is pretty with the lake backdrop and manicured lake front fairways. There are lots of people walking, biking, working out around the lake so it should be relatively safe given the hood it's in. All the people can also be a con, although there was no one else playing the course when I was there. I would watch your back though and beware your surrounding especially on the backside of the woods where most people aren't. There was some party near the park and the music was pumping through the woods, I enjoyed it. There are little workout areas around the Lake if you miss a shot and want to do some pull ups or elliptical or go run or bring your bike and ride around the lake for a workout. There is a 6 hole beginner course on the other side of the Lake that can be used as a warm up or ace run.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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