Smithville, MO 
Paradise Pointe - Blackthorn Share
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3 / 153ft. Par / Distance:
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1    7/7/2014   7/8/2014
Review By: hnosaj
Played: 16  Reviewed: 7  Exp: 0.6 Years
Pros: Diverse mix of holes, lot of tough shots, mix of long and short, perfectly maintained fairways, extrememly clean, beautiful setting
Cons: Chest high rough and some of the most dense undergrowth in the wooded areas I've ever seen. We spent a ton of time looking for discs.
Other Thoughts: We'll play this again in the future but probably stick with early spring, late fall or winter. It would probably be better in the summer after they cut down the rough for hay.

1    5/27/2013   5/27/2013
Review By: Ferrell
Played: 15  Reviewed: 4
Pros: Course is well maintained and in great shape. Baskets and tee pads were in great condition too. Each hole was labeled and easy to find. The course had a balance of long shots and short technical shots.
Cons: The grass fields that surround the course are pretty high. You could easily lose a disc if you threw out of bounds. No benches or bag holders on the course but that's not a big deal. Some holes are very open and are very challenging when windy. Also, paying $5 for parking will get old real fast if you want to play a lot there.
Other Thoughts: I would recommend this course. I thought it had some challenging holes, great tee pads, and beautiful scenery to offer.
Date: 5/28/2013 Designer Response by: dickparker
I'm glad you enjoyed it. As far as the $5 goes, if you are a Clay County resident, you can buy a year pass for $30. If you are an out of towner, it is $40. Luckily there are 2 other courses, so that does add to the value in my opinion. Thanks for playing!

1    1/6/2013   1/6/2013
Review By: astomps
Played: 53  Reviewed: 39  Exp: 3.3 Years
0 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: + signage is good + navigation
+ good baskets
+ nice property + views
+ holes 10,15,16 are fun
+ good upkeep
Cons: - open holes are long and straight = boring
- wooded holes are short and have no fairways
- teepads are roughly half the width as normal and slightly longer, not sure if con, but worth noting
Other Thoughts: a much better course could be carved out of this property.

0 of 1 people found this review helpful.

 good course

2-4    10/10/2012   10/14/2012
Review By: blowers04
Played: 12  Reviewed: 5  Exp: 2.6 Years
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: -Nice tee pads.
-Very well marked holes.
-Nice combo of open and wooded holes.
-Scenic views of lake.
Cons: -Costs $5 to park if in season.
-Lots of water hazards.
-Lots of thorny foliage.
Other Thoughts: Good balanced course. Long open shots, and lots of wooded shots as well. There are a couple holes bordered by the lake, and one hole with a pond in the middle. Easy to avoid if played smart. They have very nice cement tee pads, and very well marked holes. Although the $5 to park sucks, the cost does keep the course far less busy then many other local courses. With the lake right by, its a perfect place for a round in the summer.

1 of 1 people found this review helpful.

 Good Progress

5+    6/8/2012   6/8/2012
Review By: kcnickster
Played: 56  Reviewed: 14  Exp: 6 Years
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course is maturing quickly and is rapidly becoming one of my favorite in KC. As mentioned in other reviews 2nd hole puts you in the woods and you use your technical game. The trees end at number 8 which has some of the most narrow openings on the course, and it's starts opening up into some wide open 600 ft holes to work out some of those frustrating tree hits you had in the woods. The fairways were in the best shape I've seen and were well mowed and clean. Trash cans and signs are at almost every tee now. Of the 3 courses in the park its the one I enjoy the most.
Cons: Not a lot of elevation. About the amendity missing is some benches. Also the geese came into play near the lake, they had "left their mark" all over the tee pad of 17 and didn't seem to be phased when the disc flew right over their heads.
Other Thoughts: I love #10.. you shoot in between 2 smaller trees that could slow your disc down just enough so you don't cross the pond at about 250 ft. #15 has gone from a nightmare to very nice signiture hole.

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Some promising holes

1    4/22/2012   4/25/2012
Review By: Hector Chain
Played: 117  Reviewed: 115  Exp: 6.5 Years
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Paradise Pointe is a pretty nice recreational area with a lot of space to use. It has to be nice because there is that extra "e" at the end of "Pointe!"

Blackthorn starts and ends out in the open. In between (holes 2 through 9 and 15) play in a heavily wooded area, and hole 16 plays along the shoreline of the lake out to a peninsula. The wooded holes will be pretty nice when they get broken in. There are often multiple lines to the basket of varying risk/reward profiles.

The two signature holes are probably 15 and 16. Hole 15 is requires an accurate 250 foot shot through the woods across a small ravine before making a 60-degree dogleg left. The approach requires a straight shot down an alley with the namesake blackthorn trees lining the fairway. Hole 16 is a shot along the beach around a clump of trees to a basket on the peninsula. There is a risky left-to-right approach along the shoreline that would make for some good tournament decisions.

All the baskets are blue (I like the color coding of the courses, especially since they occasionally play near one another) and are surprisingly visible even in the woods.

There is one hole (#10, I believe) over a pond. There are some options for bailing out, but if you're going for the birdie, you have to wind up for a shot you know you can execute but that will have consequences if you screw it up.
Cons: They give you a map at the guard station, and navigation would have been very tough without one (even with it I had to look around a bit but didn't have too much trouble). There is a long-ish walk between #1 and #2. Walk straight past the basket for the first hole toward the small cemetery in the woods, and the second hole tees off next to it.

The wooded holes were not well mowed, and there are too many dead branches that will eventually get knocked down by drives. Hole 8 had no real lane to the basket that even a good player could consistently hit. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that tree! And plant another one somewhere else.

The open holes were boring. There was some elevation, but too many holes had nothing in the way to force any line or even any decision. Just throw over there.

As others have noted, the concrete tee pads stick out above the ground by a couple too many inches, and you could really screw up your ankle if you're not careful.
Other Thoughts: There is a $5 fee to enter. I don't mind that sort of fee, especially for an area with three courses, very nice baskets, concrete pads, etc. I think half of this course will eventually be pretty fun. The open holes are always going to be uninteresting unless they plant a bunch of trees. Nevertheless, this complex is worth a visit.

1 of 1 people found this review helpful.

 Great experience

2-4    2/19/2012   2/23/2012
Review By: joots
Played: 9  Reviewed: 2
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Blackthorn, one of the three courses situated in Paradise Point, is a great example of how to make a round of golf for those with big arms and those with little arms (such as myself).
Plenty of wooded shots to help out your technical game.
Plenty of open aired shots to really unleash your inner-"beast".
The scenary of the lake in the background is very pretty, especially when the sun is coming down over the water.
The teepads are long, so you have lots of room to place your feet just right for a great drive.
The markers on the bottom of the baskets point you to the next pad.
Practice pin at top of the parking lot w/clean bathrooms for you to use.
Plenty of trees for you to use as a bathroom once the round starts.
Cons: I am going to 'con' this course with a grain of salt, seeing as how it is not finished yet.
No trash cans.
May be a bit of a stretch to navigate your first time out (guard post supposedly has maps).
Non-discers walking on path that circles the lake and cuts through the course.
Water and wind, but that is nobody's real issue, 'cuz seriously, who's gonna tell mother nature and the lake itself to back off. Not me.
During the summer months, you have to pay $5. to play, but hey, there are three courses on Paradise Point, so go early, and throw a lotta disc.
As of Feb 2012, hole 15 is not finished 100%, but by the summer, it'll be ready for you.
Other Thoughts: Hole number one starts with a 400'+ down hill drive that is open w/a small OB road on the left. Then, into the woods. From there 'til about hole 9, you are in some thick foliage. Not that you can't see the pin, it's just a matter of how you're gonna get there.
Once you get into the open on hole 10, you are met w/an approximately 350' down hill stroke that you have to toss over a small pond. It's pretty much all open from there, with long, open shots that will challenge even the biggest arms.
Hole 15, puts you back in the woods, but you're back out for holes 16-18, all with the lake on your left hand side.
The course is made to be the medium course of the 3 situated out there. Go, take a lunch, plenty of libations, and have a stellar day of disc.

1 of 1 people found this review helpful.


1    1/7/2012   1/12/2012
Review By: kerq6c
Played: 13  Reviewed: 2  Exp: 3.6 Years
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: This course is very fun and diverse from short wooded shots to long open holes. All the holes have nice long cement pads. All the baskets are nice and new and have a great looking blue powder coat on them. There are some great holes on this course like number 10. You throw down hill between two trees and over a small pond. It is a beautiful hole.
Cons: Very poor signs. From hole one it can be very difficult to find hole 2 without a map. It is up behind the white fenced in area. Some of the concrete pads have issues. When they formed them they just pushed the excess concrete to a pile in front of the pad. On a couple of them it is above pad height and about 4-6 inches in front of the tee so it presents a good tripping hazard if you like to land off the pad. Also not so much of a con but the pads are really narrow. Another small problem is that a few of the holes have no grass so it can be very muddy if it rains. Hole 15 is in need of some heavy work. The teepad right now points straight into the woods with no basket in sight. I had to walk through the woods then down the path to find the basket and then still had no clue how I was going to get there( I ended up throwing through the woods and then down the path). Thorn bushes are common on this course so I would recommend wearing pants to prevent cuts and scrapes. There are no trash cans so the course had quite a few beer cans on it. I could only pick up so many before my bag was full.
Other Thoughts: This course will be very good if a few of the cons would get fixed/finished. This course has a good view of the lake. I will enjoy exhausting myself on all three courses in this park in the very near future.

2 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Almost there

2-4    9/8/2011   1/2/2012
Review By: asjzn6
Played: 113  Reviewed: 53  Exp: 9.2 Years
This review was updated on 9/19/2012
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Great Baskets, Good tees, Easy to follow course. Great oppurtunity to view wildlife. 2-9 pretty cool in the woods. Although the holes are shorter there is still challenge as the holes are tight fairways and can lead to tricky putts around trees. 10 is excellent down and over a pond basket on mogul. 11 another shorter wooded hole and then 12-14 open with some fun. 13 is great midlength downhill shot with OB just behind. Hole 15 use your brain i repeat use your brain. 16 great view of lake on approach and green. 17 and 18 simple if your brain is not worn out.
Cons: Not much too complain about. I do wish a couple of wooded fairways were a little less poke and hope(hole 8) but mother nature has already cleared a couple of trees and should clear some more.
Other Thoughts: Will play again in coming months hopefully i will be able to change my rating on this course, Have played again and did change my rating, I do enjoy this course very fun course starts out with a handful of 2 oppurtunities then you get to test you length. Fun sidebar when grass is up play tall grass OB

2 of 3 people found this review helpful.


1    12/25/2011   12/25/2011
Review By: Dan Howard
Played: 39  Reviewed: 1  Exp: 5.2 Years
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: A nice mix of woods, water, long open, and elevation holes. The woods are a real challenge, many lines to choose from (pro/con???). Cement pads are in and they are nice and long. All baskets have a pointer to the next tee. Great views of the lake from several holes, we had two bald eagles give us a flyover while we were on the 1st tee.
Cons: Signage is minimal. Plenty of mud in the woods that will get better as the grass come in. Hole 15 is a temp pad till they get the fairway cleared (you'll be teeing from the other side of the inlet). The "open" holes may be a little too open but they were fun to bomb.
Other Thoughts: I really enjoyed today's round. The course is still a work in progress, fun to play right now and lots of potential.

5 of 5 people found this review helpful.

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