Very Good course....if played from the LONG tee & in the LONG pin placement
20 Helpful / 7 Not
Pros: Foremost, This piece of beautiful Real Estate! A HUGE lake with mature trees and rolling terrain. The newest DISCatchers, with 3 sets of chains. Two tees and Three positions per hole. My rating of 3.5 comes from the fact that every level of player can enjoy this course. With 6 different Configurations possible. Only 5 minutes from I-70 the course feels very Secluded. A Motel and truck stop at the interstate Exit. A Pro Safari course could be rather easy to make at least from holes 1-9. Play #1 to #2 Discatcher. #3 to #4 Discatcher. #5 normal layout. #6 to #7 peninsula. #8 to #9 Discatcher. That's the first 5 holes I came up with. I'll work on 4,or more, holes on holes #10-#18
Cons: Grass tees, for now. Concrete tees MAY NOT happen?Lacking Benches and trash cans. The grass needs cut. The fairway grass needs cut more often and correctly. By, correctly, I mean "Ball Golf Greens short" at all possible roller pin placements. The post tops are painted with hole numbers on each tee.
Other Thoughts: I wrote this review this way for reviewers to get a "Minds-Eye" Picture of the course.
#1 Blue Tee (A;310'-B;322'-C;332') Located at the S.W. Corner of the Lake. Between the gravel park Road,on the right, and the lake. The shoreline has dozens of mature trees and THICK underbrush. The terrain slopes to the water. The tee is on top of the slope with one large tree at the lowest point of the fairway. The red tee (A;262'-B;292'-C;303') is 75' in front, down the slope, close to the treeline. The "A" position is up the slope with a open shot. The "B" position is a little.more than half way up, tucked just behind a large tree on the left. Two smaller Diameter trees on the right, with underbrush. The "C" position is about 15' from the water with mature trees and short underbrush. #2 Blue Tee (A;342'-B;391'-C;380') is about 100' behind the red tee. Over the park Road and up a small incline. The red tee (A;215'-B;264'-C;251') is on top of the slope just before the park Road. The fairway has four mature trees in-a-row on the right. One tree half way down on the left, no underbrush. The "A" position is close to the road in the flatest area. The "B" position is a little more than half way down the slope and gets steep quick. The "C" position is 15' from the shoreline with underbrush on the shoreline. But, its short and not thick. #3 blue Tee (A;325'-B;362'-C;406') is over the road about 125' behind the red tee. The slope is not as "Extreme" as the first two holes. No shoreline underbrush, the wind becomes a factor. The Discatcher can be seen with no idea how close to the water. The "A" is closer to the road. The "B" is 40' from the shoreline. The "C" position is 20' from it. #4 Blue Tee (A;462'-B;568'-C;663') close to the water, mature trees on the shoreline. It curves into the fairway, about 1/3 the way down. The red tee (A;310'-B;450'-C;547') is 175' up the fairway and near the road. The fairway curves left with about 2/3 the distance to the Discatcher. The "A" position is left of the mature tree. The "B" position is about 35' from the shoreline. The "C" position is behind the other placements about 125' and behind the treeline. #5 Blue Tee (A;440'-B;534'-C;594') The lake is on your left and no underbrush with a mature treeline on the right. The 2nd tree has one branch reaching over the fairway. The red tee (A;303'-B;397'-C;457') is 150' in front of the blue. Under the outreaching branch. Only the yellow top can be seen,with a steep slope behind. The "A" position is by the road between two trees. The "B" has a great chance of becoming a long roller to the water. The "C" position is 30' from the water. No underbrush to stop a roller. #6 Blue Tee (A,B,C;538') until the 2nd position is drilled into the big stone,only one position. Near the road the terrain slopes and sweeps around the S.E. Corner of the lake. A cluster of mature trees and brush at the shoreline. Five mature trees are on the right half way down. The red tee (A,B,C;413') is 125' to the right. The Discatcher is between two large Rocks and behind a mature tree. #7....The front 9's "Signature hole"! The peninsula shot! Absolutely Beautiful! Facing West, looking left you'll see the first five holes played. The rolling terrain, mature trees. Looking right you'll see a few DISCatchers poking out if the woods,next to the water. Giving you a taste of the back nine. #7 Blue Tee (A;246'-B;280'-C;317') located between the road and the farmers fence. A large cluster of mature trees and THICK brush, on the right to the peninsula,which has no trees or underbrush. The red tee (A;208'-B;233'-C;262') has a straight shot to the peninsula,with wind as a major factor. The "A" position is the shortest and away from the tip of the peninsula. The "B" position is about 35' from the tip and water on three sides. The "C" position is 15' away from the very tip. The B and C position have the biggest chance of a roller. #8 Blue Tee (A;262'-B;252'-C;265') next to the roads curve. The shoreline is on the left with mature trees and THICK underbrush...for now? A cluster if smaller trees and a handful of larger trees are in the last 1/3 of the fairway. The red tee (A;183'-B;173'-C;186') is up 75' and to the left. The "A" position is more open with a chance of a roller on the backside to the lake. The "B" position is behind the cluster of smaller Diameter trees. The "C" position is to the left, tucked behind a big THICK bush. Close to the water. #9 Blue Tee (A;384'-B;434'-C;530') next to the road,which is part of the fairway. The treeline comes in from the left narrowing the fairway. Then down a little slope to an open shoreline,the wind will be a factor. The red tee (A;266'-B;306'-C;402') is in front 125' from the blue Tee and a bit away from the road. A,B position are blind shots. The "B" position is close to the water. The "C" position plays up the incline between the road and treeline. #10 Blue Tee (A;229'-B;234'-C;261') Left of the road and THICK brush on both sides. One large mature tree and about two dozen smaller diameter trees scattered throughout the fairway. The red tee (A;179-B;184'-C;211') is up to the right,with one large tree on the left. The "A" position is hidden behind one THICK brush area, by the water. The "B" position is up the slope, to the right with a small opening for a short dogleg. The "C" position is behind the "B" placement, between two large trees. #11 Blue Tee (A;165'-B;200'-C;229') Imho is the back nine's "Signature hole". The tees between the road and treeline and left if the tunnel shot. The red tee (A;121'-B;159'-C;188) is center of the tunnel shot. A downslope fairway with a long pine branch forcing you to keep it low. The line of sight is awesome! Just a silhouette of the Discatcher with water behind. You have no idea how close it is to the water. And Im not gonna tell you here!.....take some DX plastic you don't care about. #12 Blue Tee (A;177'-B;171'-C;195') THICK underbrush in both sides of the fairway. The left goes about 50' then opens to the water. A large area of mature trees and brush at the shoreline. Another opening to the right. The red tee (A;135'-B;142'-C;166') is in front 35'. Scattered mature trees throughout the fairway. The "A" position is close to the water. The "B" position is up the slope with two smaller diameter trees in front. The "C" position is tucked in the cleared out area, up the slope to the right. #13 Blue Tee (A;221'-B;251'-C;289') A fairway with an hourglass shape. The red tee (A;176'-B;205'-C;243') 50' in front. In the middle of the hourglass shaped fairway. The "A" position is close to the water and if the grass was cut short enough it would be a roller. The "B" position has a dozen small Diameter trees with one low branch forcing a low putt. The "C" position is up the slope with a dogleg right and two trees protecting the Discatcher. #14 Blue Tee (A;159'- B;180'-C;218') from the shoreline up the slope with two mature trees on each side of tee. The fairway gets flat with about a dozen trees. The red tee (A;149'- B;170'-C;207') is to the right. Also by the shoreline up the slope. Fewer trees from red tee. The "A" position is the shortest and the most open, Just before the road. The "B" position is slightly hidden by the brushline. The "C" position is 35' "behind" the "B" placement. Between the brushline and road. #15 Blue Tee (A;282'- B;347'-C;451') across the road by the treeline with THICK underbrush on the right. The red tee (A;172'-B;244'-C;345') is 100' in front to the left by a large bush. The fairway has 6 large trees on the left. 3 more trees on the right,just a few feet in the fairway from the treeline. The fairway narrows to 30' wide. The "A" position is just before a bush on the left. The "B" position is 75' behind an closer to the STEEP Drop-off to the creek....I see someone's disc. The "C" position is 100' behind the "B" placement. #16 Blue Tee (A;187'-B;218'-C;224') depending in #15 placement back tracking could be a little long. Cross the road with THICK brush on the left. A lone Branch protrudes out into the fairway 50' in front. The red tee (A;148'-B;169'-C;175') is under the protruding branch. The fairway in is made up of clusters of mature tree with underbrush. The "A" position is a dogleg left,just behind one cluster. The "B" position is a straight shot with the Discatcher protected by a handful if smaller diameter trees. The "C" position is over the road and no more than 15' from the edge of the STEEP cliff...careful! Placement is key! No underbrush to stop a bad throw. #17 Blue Tee (A;258'-B;317'-C;327') a long walk from #16 B,C position, left and toward the water. The tee area is cut out of THICK brush and sits behind two trees. As it opens up to the sloping fairway clusters of smaller & larger trees with underbrush. One massive older tree on the right. Along withmore brush. The red tee (A;154'-B;197'-C;209') is 125' in front and out of the red "tunnel" a bit to the right. The "A" position plays to the massive older tree. The "B" position is behind the last cluster of trees. The "C" position is 30' to the left and much closer to the water. A small opening gives the chance of getting wet. #18 Blue Tee (A;357'-B;433'-C;475) imho is the toughest hole. The shoreline and park road narrows the fairway to 35' wide. The wind will be a factor. The terrain gets more & more steep as the placements get longer. Trees either in front or behind the placements. The "A" position is close to the road and in front of two trees. The "B" position is behind two trees with no underbrush at the shoreline. The "C" position is 45' behind the "B" placement. The fairway narrows to 35' and no shoreline underbrush. Give yourself up to 2 and a half hours for a round. Until the tee signs are installed and a system of marking the Discatchers pin placement. Enjoy your 2nd round!
****As of 11-5-12**** The Church is going through a tough financial time,as is everyone else. I knocked down my rating due to STILL no tee signs or concrete tees. And basic upkeep (cutting grass) as been lacking. My Org. Rating was 4.5 Was high. But, from a INTERMEDIATE player and playing LONG tees in the LONG pin placements, its still a very good course.
After finding out things have NOT been going as planned with the course, I've lowered my rating to 3.5
20 of 27 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 11 Not
Challenging, Fun, and Cool Water and Nature
Pros: The Red Tees cut off some of the challenge, but not all of it. The lake and hills create a wind on some holes that help u get more distance. Every hole is fun, and has its own character and challenge. I like the wooded back 9 better because the holes are a little shorter and allows amateurs some birdies. The Rock hole on 6 is really cool.
Cons: Needs concrete pads
Other Thoughts: I am a kid that's played several courses in Indiana, Ohio, and Kentucky. Living Waters is one of my favorites because the lake is really cool, and it makes it different than most courses because it challenges everyone. The course makes me play my best, The Blue and Red tees make it playable for people that are really good and also beginners.
6 of 17 people found this review helpful.
12 Helpful / 10 Not
Incredible Course at a Great Location
Pros: Location: right on I-70 in Indiana near Ohio border. 30 min from Dayton, 1 hr from Indy, 1 1/2 hr from Columbus, Cincy, Ft Wayne, etc.
This course seems to lack nothing. Multiple pin placemets and Blue and Red tees make each round totally different. The scenery is OUTSTANDING!! It winds around a gorgeous lake with many ups and downs, and some great peninsulas. The course is designed to use all of these as factors of play. The front 9 has some huge open holes, AWESOME risk/reward shots using a couple peninsulas on hole 3 and 7. Holes 4, 5, and 6 are some monsters. BRING YOUR ARM. The pin at 6 is mounted in a huge red rock that requires a skillful putt to score well. The gazebo on 7 is a cool hangout for golfers to talk about how they could, or should have played the peninsula ( or brag if they did well ).
The back 9 is mostly wooded. It has some great tomahawk and sidearm potential. The players that have the ability to throw various skilled shots will love the various holes. The wooded area has downhill and uphill with some awesome views of the lake.
Cons: This course is not complete without concrete teepads. The intenton is to pour them in the spring. It is a MUST!!
Other Thoughts: This course has it all. Most courses require a good drive and a good putt to score well. This course makes you focus just as much on a good approach shot along with a drive and putt. You will want to play this course until you beat it, or else it will definately beat you.
I look forward to playing this course alot. This is a great example of the future and potential for the sport of disc golf.
12 of 22 people found this review helpful.
18 Helpful / 3 Not
New course in the Richmond area!
Pros: Lots of pros! The course plays counter clockwise around a nice 45+ acre lake. Lots of big mature trees and areas of heavy underbrush, create many alleys and fairways. Each hole has a Blue Pro tee and Red Am tees, plus A, B & C pin locations on every hole. The 'A' pins are all shorter and make a great layout for kids and newer players. The 'B' pins are the standard day-to-day playing pins and a solid challenge. The 'C' pins are longer, tougher and have more risk. Requires a variety of shots, as virtually all holes involve water to some extent or another, plus a wide variety of holes, from open huck monsters, to multiple fairways (do I go anhyser, straight or hyzer) or tight, wooded technical holes. And they all have some terrain change, so bring your LEGS too!
Brand new DISCatcher baskets, including a 19-hole for putting practice. The tee-signs should be up in 4-5 weeks, until then the poles will have the numbers on them. The grass tees are generally even, and there are plans to put in concrete tee-pads over time. With the 6 different layout combos that can be played on this course, it truely allows any level of player to experience a great round of disc golf! It demands a variety of shots and offers lots of risk vs reward options. A great new course in an area that needs courses.
Cons: The course is still new and not fully complete until the signs and concrete tees are in. But it will only improve with time. No water, so bring your own. Limited restrooms (port-o-let). Some poison ivy, and bring the bug spray.
Other Thoughts: Really cool new course! It is a visual stunner as you play around the lake, looking across at holes that you will play on the back-9, or at one's that you already played on the front-9! Great first course for the Richmond area. The baskets were installed in ealy October, 2011. Thanks to Pastor Tim and all the New Creations staff, and local disc golfer and new course pro, Chad Scalf, for spearheading this project!
18 of 21 people found this review helpful.
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