4 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Concrete tees are in, which makes navigation a LOT easier.
Very nice mix of open/wooded/water holes.
It's not on the west side of Rochester. Nothing against the west side...but the east side really only has one course (Ellison).
Cons: No tee signs. The concrete tees are in, but some of them are pretty funny looking. I realize they were installed by volunteers, but did no one volunteer to bring a level?
The environment is not perfect--it's buggy in the summer, and the expressway noise sucks. Can be swampy.
Not beginner friendly.
Other Thoughts: I played this course for the first time over the summer and did not have a good time. The bugs were terrible, and ultimately got so bad that we abandoned the round, but the real problem was that the layout was very confusing. This could still use some improvement (there aren't any tee signs, only numbers tacked to a tree near the tee, and some of these numbers are wrong anyway), but with the concrete tees in it's fairly obvious where to go next.
A lot of people kill this course because it's easy to lose a disc. I don't really have a problem with that. You never have to go over the water (well other than the creek/drainage ditch)--even on hole 9 you can go around the pond and still have a shot at a three.
I had a lot of fun this time. The length, difficulty and variety remind me of Parma a little bit in that when you're done you feel like you've been on an odyssey. Great job bringing this thing back from the dead.
4 of 5 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - description: recently redesigned course that has water in play on many holes. hole 1 starts by the esl building, with parking around back.
- tees and signs: concrete tees are now in!
- hole designs: great variety. holes next to water, over water left to right and right to left, straight over water, baskets near water. water water and more water. for me, the water doesn't get old, but keeps the pressure on. some reviews have said that the new holes on the back 9 aren't that great, but they're now cleaned up and i think they're far better than the old holes. likewise, the front 9 holes are much improved. for many holes on the front 9, either the baskets are in new locations, holes are lengthened, or tees are moved.
- favorite holes: hole 1 gives you two fairways divided by a column of trees and rocks leading to the basket with a safe path to the left and a go-for-it fairway over water to the right. hole 8 is 257 feet long and has you tee off from under a tree all the way over the pond to the basket on the side of the hill.
- flow: white arrows at nearly every hole.
- difficulty: hard. difficulty comes primarily from risk of disc loss/o.b.
- uniqueness: nothing else like it in rochester, adding to the resume of our local courses.
Cons: - signs: currently no signs
- brush on back 9 off the fairway: i would advise having a spotter on many of these holes. not likely you'll lose a disc, but you'll lose time
- disc loss to water: discs that float are awesome. play conservatively. one friend brought a golf ball retriever which could extend and was useful (better than trying to find a long stick).
Other Thoughts: - again, spotters make rounds go great
- not beginner friendly
- mcc has always been wet in the spring time. Should be playable by June most years.
- new back 9 were extremely overgrown at one point, but grass/plants have now been cut/trimmed
- give mcc a chance! it's getting there
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 5 Not
Only play if the weather's been dry for a while
Pros: not crowded at all and they have water hazards, that's about it.
Cons: not well kept, confusing layout, plan on loosing a disc, swampy most of the time, very buggy
Other Thoughts: I don't know anyone who has played here and not lost a disk at least once, that's either rolled into the pond or flown into the overgrown foliage lining some of the fairways.
4 of 9 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 6 Not
Why come here with so many other quality courses around?
Pros: Not much. There's a bar to drink at when you are finished if I were to say anything positive. I guess it may be an enjoyable course for the seasoned veterans who are sure shots.
Cons: Where to begin? There is way too much water here making it a field day for the bugs. Plus all that water makes for many opportunities for lost discs with no good way to retrieve them. With that said, this is definitely not a course for beginners. The course is right next to the highway so you hear non stop traffic while playing which isn't very relaxing. The tee and hole signage is awful and its tough to find a lot of the next holes. For those of us not from the area, the signs showing you where the course is from the road are non existent as well.
Other Thoughts: Overall this course sucked compared to many of the other great courses in the Rochester area. I would never play this course again, nor would I recommend it to anyone. Someone said this was the new revamped course. I can't imagine how bad it was before.
4 of 10 people found this review helpful.
8 Helpful / 2 Not
Massive Fail in the redesign
Pros: The only pro left is the several scenic holes and interesting use of water on the front 9.
The parking issue seems to have been resolved, you can park right at the Bill Gray's Tap room and head upstairs for food or drinks after the round.
I have heard the new tee pads have went in since my review and there has been some clean up of overgrown holes.
Cons: issue with clarity of tees, some had sticks, some had flat black squares on the ground. No tee signs. No course maintenence on the new holes in the back 9.
Back 9 is an embarrassing fail. The improvements to the course ended up creating 4 of the worst holes in Rochester.
13 was knee high weeds and thorns, we used 4 spotters just to make it playable, several people did not want to throw.
14 was even worse with no tee pad and waist high weeds and grass. No one wanted to play the hole. 15 was just a walking path (5 foot wide) "fairway" to a blind basket. once again it was overgrown and nearly unplayable. Hole 16 was a swampy 8 foot wide fairway to complete the most disapointing back 9 I have ever played.
Risk of disc loss on the front 9 is great especially for newer players: hole one has water on the right, hole 2 has a down hill slope that ends at the water, 3 has risk of water after the basket, 4 and 5 have risk of loss in the drainage creek and cat tails, 6 has a very small chance of loss in the trees, 7 had a nasty swamp on the left, 8 was over a lake, 9 has lake on right with significant chance of disc loss.
Holes 5 and 6 had uneven tee areas.
Hole 7 was a swamp.
Hole 10 had roots sticking up at the end of the tee area. 12 was a walking path sized fairway that really needed a spotter.
Other Thoughts: Saying this course is "passable" is generous when I would suggest you skip holes 12-16, nearly 1/3 of the course.
You can play the front 9 twice, but why? There are far superior courses near by. This course was easily a 3 before the redesign, now it is a disappointment.
I do not see my self returning to MCC for a long long time, it is sad that a decent course was ruined.
8 of 10 people found this review helpful.
8 Helpful / 1 Not
Main Water Course in Rochester
Pros: - New parking area (less problems with campus tickets)
- Bill Grays at the beginning and end of the course
- There are good directional signage to make navigation pretty easy
- Several water holes that add extra challenge and as long as they are played carefully disc loss can be prevented
- Holes 1,2,3,6,9,10,11,12, and 17 are nicely designed (9 of 18)
- There is plenty of chances for reward if you are willing to put in the risk
- There is a good variety of shots. There is a mix of anhyzer and hyzer shots as well as some holes that utilize elevation.
- The flow of the course is pretty good. Each tee follows logically from the last basket. When the next tee is not visible from the basket, there are directional arrows to get you there
- There are cement tee pads which not only provide a solid are for driving but also clarify where the tees are
Cons: - There are no actual tee signs that tell you what hole you are on and where the basket is. (I think there might be a plan to signs up in the near future)
- The course could use a more solid bridge for access to hole 1 from the parking lot
- As I mentioned in the pros there are 9 really nice holes. That means there are another 9 not so nice holes. Of the 9 I would say there are 7 ok holes and like 2 ick holes (in my opinion)
- Many of the holes on the back 9 can become overgrown awfully quickly. The Rochester disc golf site does a good job of keeping the holes cut down, but at times it can be pretty scruffy
- The course is not set up so that there is an easy way to just play the front nine or back 9. If you are going to play the course, you just have to play the whole thing.
- course is unplayable from March to July because it is extremely wet
Other Thoughts: There are many holes where water can be a problem especially for beginners so keep that in mind when playing. I am actually beginning to have fun at the course with all the improvements that the Rochester disc golf club has done. Also because of the land the course is almost unplayable wet from March until July. It is probably playable in the winter as long as the snow is not melting. Koodos to all the people putting the extra work into the course. I will revisit this review again when the tee pads are in.
8 of 9 people found this review helpful.
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