middle of MOwhere
Pros: Gateway Titan baskets!
Good use of large section of park
concrete trapezoidal pads on both red and blue tees
Well maintained and ongoing improvements apparent
benches and trash cans at most holes
Cons: Faded signage - some unintelligible
Confusing pin positions - baskets out of place
Not much elevation change
many similar open field distance drives for RHBH
Other Thoughts: overall a sweet 18 but a bit out of the way for St. Louis players
a nice surprise
Pros: very well maintained, good amount of diversity, nice use of limited elevation changes,multiple tee pads..good combination of shorter technical holes and longer bomber holes, awesome gateway titan baskets..signage was easy to follow..great park setting..
Cons: the loop for 18 holes is very long ( but pleasant) pretty good walk back to parking lot after # 18.
Other Thoughts: This coarse was very enjoyable and a pleasant surprise, I would suspect that whoever maintains this coarse is a disc golfer because it was in amazing condition, great use of the land available, will return to play this little gem again
Nice, scenic park, fun round
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Scenic, Well Maintained, Multiple Pins, Multiple Pads, Easy Navigation, Unique Obstacles, Descriptive Tee Signs & Directional Arrows, Trash Cans and Restrooms
Engler Park is a nice, scenic park for a disc golf course. The layout is well designed and makes use the the limited natural obstacles available from the land. Though the mainly wide open format of the course can get a bit redundant, the multiple tee pads and pin placements offer a nice change for those who play the course regularly. It also appears as though they've planted some young trees, which will continue to add character to this course in time. The tee pads are narrow at the back and wide up front to indicate the direction of the hole, which I thought was a nice touch. There are bunkers carved out of the fairways and filled with mulch which play as a hazard (take an OB stroke, but play from your lie) that add an extra challenge to the mostly wide open holes. A lot of the holes play near the park's lakes and creek, which adds to the aesthetic value of the course, but the water rarely comes into play. The course is obviously well maintained and the local club has added nice benches on many of the holes. The tee signs, while slightly faded are nice as they provide the hole description and distances for both tee pads and both pin placements on each hole. Unfortunately, some have chosen this as a good place to record their aces, which I really do not like.
Cons: Wide Open, Redundant, Long Walk Back from 18
Though they did do a lot with the land that was given for this course, it is not a technical course as there are only a few holes that have more than a couple trees as obstacles. Again, the designer did well to make use of the obstacles that he were available, but overall, the course is not very challenging. I found myself throwing the same disc the same way a number of times, so you really do not need to be great to score well or enjoy yourself at this course. Lastly, hole 18 leaves you a good way away from the parking lot, so you have somewhat of a long walk back to the car/hole 1. Its not really that big of a deal, but I prefer to start and end at the parking lot.
Other Thoughts: Overall, this is not a championship caliber course, but it is still a lot of fun to play and worth checking out. High marks go to the local club and volunteers that maintain the course as it was pristine when I played it - not one spec of trash anywhere to be found. In the future, I think it would add a lot to the overall challenge is they allowed the grass to overgrow in some areas, thus creating tougher fairways, but even if they keep it as is, its a lot of fun to play.
Traveler's Tip: There isn't a whole lot around the course/park in the way of food, gas stations, etc. So, if you need drinks, food, snacks, etc. make sure to bring them with you.
2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: Challenging course with alittle bit of everything
from long open holes to wooded,tight hole,very well kept
Cons: No real cons
Other Thoughts: I lived near this course and played it frequently,the course is great and the locals there are super friendly
2 of 4 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 6 Not
Fun and Challenging
Pros: Awesome course with everything one would need, map at the start, cement tee pads, good signs, directional signs to help you locate the next teebox, scenic, water holes, but not so dangerous that you are bound to throw one in the water.
And improvements. Some of the holes were just open holes, but young trees have been planted specifically for the course, so 3-5 years from now, the course will be playing completely different.
Cons: No real cons, except you wish he young trees were mature to challenge already. A solid, challenging course as is.
Other Thoughts: It's no onla great disc golf course, it is a great park period. Trails for both walkers/joggers and for bicycles, fishing, playgrounds, and huge soccer fields for DG practice when they are not being used. The facilities are great, not too far from Farmington, quiet, peaceful place. Just a wonderful place to get your head straight, and get your mind on disc golf.
0 of 6 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 9 Not
Hey, another course
Pros: Not much to complain about. Typical of the designer, certainly is true.
Cons: meh...but, a single loop course is a lot less inviting.
Other Thoughts: A very average course, nothing to be thrilled with, nothing to complain about, aside from the lack of looping.
0 of 9 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Very well kept course, signs help to guide you around the course so you're not searching for the next hole in most places. Great design that is friendly to new disc golfers, yet challenging to everyone else. The park is very beautiful, and the city seems to be taking very good care of the park and course, it shows that the DG course isn't an afterthought.
Cons: Natural tees that are half dirt, half grass. If you're not careful you can twist an ankle. It would be great if a little bit of work had gone into them with the vegetation being removed and woodchips or some other medium being put in place.
Hole signs are not uniform in their orientation. Some are on the left as you tee, some on the right. If you haven't played before expect to either flip a coin and throw, or walk ahead to find the pin. Directional arrows have been added between most holes to direct players so they don't waste 5 minutes searching for the next tee. One exception is between 11 and 12, there is no directional arrow, andif you haven't played before it's not intuitive to find.
Other Thoughts: The course is one of the better ones in the area, and I look forward to playing it every time. A common theme with the McCormack design that I have found between Farmington, Potosi, and Rolla is that if you weren't present when the course was being built, you're not going to be able to easily navigate it and find pins or where the next tee box is. Navigation for players that have never been to the course seems to be an afterthought, make sure that you have a map.
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
7 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: - Course is set amongst the wooded sections of a large park, which also has two fishin' holes on site, and some soccer fields. Overall, layout does a great job of avoiding these areas, so interference shouldn't be a major issue.
- Lots of holes make use of the forest here in some way or another. Lots of baskets are tucked into the woods, like #2, #5, #7 a little bit, #10, #13, #14, and #18. That's a lot. Helps to add challenge to the holes that are more open. A few other holes are deeper in the woods, like the fully wooded #3, a tight gap to hit shooting into the woods on #4, and a super tight wall of trees on #12. A lot of RHBH hyzers to execute, though some approach shots tail right.
- Other holes use rough, or the water, to force shot placement and some line shaping. #6 has a large bush in the fairway to get around, #1 has a patch of rough behind the basket, #9 has water left of the pin, #14 has the lake on the left the whole way, and there are some odd patches/ditches of nasty stuff on #15-#17. While these things are easy to avoid, they will provide real punishment if you can't.
- There are definitely some wide open holes here as well; but long hole lengths provide the challenge. #9 is an uphill BOMBER at 725', with water near the end, #10 is 550', #16 is 500' with a rough ditch running through the middle, and #17 is 660' with hedges in the fairway and more water behind the pin.
- As mentioned, land is used well to provide good challenge. Water definitely comes into play on three holes, in a big way. Tough basket placements in the woods help out too. Elevation changes aren't too crazy, most are gentle.
- Natural tees in good shape, signs are good, and baskets are top notch. Navigation is tricky in spots, definitely check the map first. A few tips - head across the gravel path and turn- right after #13, go across the lake after #14.
Cons: - A lot of open shots here, with distance being the only challenge. A lot of holes end in the woods to make up for it, but the tee shots are unobstructed. Longer hole length means you usually don't even have to worry where it ends up on some of the holes.
- Park is more or less flat, there are slight slopes on a lot of the holes, but only one or two shots where it's a big factor. A very minor con.
Other Thoughts: - Overall, a fun course that uses the land very well. A large amount of open shots, that use the woods, water, and other rough to make things interesting. A few holes are really 'in' the woods, and are pretty tricky. Lots of length for bombing drivers out there, but most holes have some sort of wrinkle.
- Course is accessible for almost any skill level. It's longer, and there's water, but beginners can take care not to lose anything. More advanced players will get to rip some drives, at the very least.
- Long pins seem to be a work in progress, coming soon?
7 of 8 people found this review helpful.
14 Helpful / 1 Not
Proud Disc Golfer!
Pros: Engler Park is a well kept, beautiful park that features 2 lakes. (Giessing Lake & Thomas Lake)
When you enter, the first parking lot leads to the soccer fields, and there is plenty of room to use it as a driving range to warm up, so long as no one is using it.
There is fishing in Giessing Lake with Black Bass, Crappe, and Channel Catfish, though there are daily limits on how much you can catch.
There are some wonderful nature trails that I thought was going to be used for the course. There are a lot of walkers on these trails, so always look before throwing.
Also, there are 2 playgrounds that are well kept and maintained.
There is a massive amount of trash cans scattered around the park, but on the Disc Golf portion, only #9 has some trash cans near the lake.
There are 2 permanent bathrooms, 1 in the building center of the soccer field, and one in the pavilion by the tee of #4. I also saw a temporary bathroom in the first parking lot.
There are a large amount of tables in the pavilion by #4, but there is also some individual picnic tables with small bbq grills by Giessing Lake that really looks inviting.
*Disc Golf Course
**UPDATE - signs are now up across the course.
The course is open, with slight elevation changes. The front 9 is much shorter and less challenging than the back 9.
1 - a straight away tee to a basket in a open field.
2 - a straight away tee to a basket placed into the edge of the woods.
3 - the only hole on the course that is completely in the woods. A shorter hole with difficulty getting to the basket from the tee because of the great pin placement. I did not see a Post like the other holes had, but there is a smaller wood stake and paint on the ground indicating the tee area.
4 - a beautiful hole, and probably most challenging of the front 9. A straight away from an open tee into the woods. Beautiful view of the stream from the basket.
*Leaving the basket, go down towards the trail, turn left, and follow until you see a post painted blue on top, and "3K" painted on a tree, there go left to arrive at the #5 tee.
5 - left to right hole from an open tee to a pin on the edge of the woods. Another beautiful look at the stream from the basket.
*WARNING - between 5 and 6 there is a lot of standing water.
6 - straight away hole with the pin placed behind some shrubs. Standing water effects most of this hole, so be sure to wear mud shoes on wet days.
*From here go up the hill and right to #7
7 - beautiful look to the lake behind you, nice downhill straightaway hole with vegetation that can effect your shot below. Basket is at the edge of the woods.
*WARNING - standing water between 7 and 8 as well.
8 - straight away open tee to open basket in field.
9 - the longest hole of the course, and uphill. A open tee, stay right of the lake, you will not see it from the tee. Basket tucked into the woods.
10 - tees from the edge of the woods with trees in the way of the tee shot. A long hole compared to the front, with the basket tucked back into the woods.
11 - straight away open tee to open basket in field.
12 - the tee is not by the post here, but back by a stake with orange paint on top. A dog leg left hole with a opening to the far right, and the basket back in the far left. A challenging shorter hole.
13 - a great tee placement in a set of trees to keep your tee shot accurate for this longer hole resembling #10 only in reverse.
*Walk across the trail and into the other field to find the #14 tee.
14 - the only place I can see danger of losing a disc, with the lake on the left, and a left to right shot required because of a large tree with long hanging limbs. Not very long, but there is danger in the tee shot. Another challenging short hole.
*Walk around Thomas Lake (and enjoy the scenery) to find #15 tee.
15 - a hole that can be played straight away, but is much safer coming in left to right because of the trees. Standing water a problem for this hole as well.
16 - a hole that makes you decide to drive over the creek, or stay on the short side. Part of the punishment of laying up is having to walk back to the bridge to get across. A long hole that is a bit downhill, with the only real danger being the creek.
17 - Signature Hole of the course. Another long hole where fence is 300' out from the tee to disrupt your drive. The pin is near the edge of the lake. During tournaments, the "island" will come into play.
*Walk along Thomas Lake to the bridge section of the island green, then go towards the woods. You will see a narrow open section in the woods, inside you will find the #18 tee.
18 - a challenging finishing hole, you have to get your drive through a small opening, and the basket deep into the woods. Great finishing hole.
Cons: *STANDING WATER - As pointed out in the course description, there is 3 places where standing water becomes an issue. I do not think anything can really be done about this, just be sure to wear mud shoes if it has been wet out.
*GRASS TEE'S - This is a brand new course, so keep in mind the grass tees are not worn in, very easy to slide on, and I almost fell a couple of times teeing off from the soft, wet ground.
*DISTANCES BETWEEN HOLES AND PARKING LOT - Between 4 an 5 there is a bit of a walk, but it is not too long, and it is a beautiful view. The walk around the lake from 14 to 15, another beautiful view. Ending on 18, you have a nice, scenic trail to walk back to the parking lot. This makes this long course seem a lot longer, nice views, just some long distance.
**UPDATE - The signs are not uniform in their placement. Sometimes they are facing right of the fairway, sometimes left, sometimes the signs face the fairway, and sometimes they face the opposite direction. I do not understand why the signs were placed like this, I had a playing partner today that was looking for the basket and could not locate it because of the various sign placements. Doesn't really make sense why they did this. (scratches head)
Other Thoughts: "I have waited a long time for this course to be done, and I almost teared up when I saw the baskets." - OP
If you have played West City in Festus, MO, then you would notice some similarities in the courses.
This is a fun course. You get to pull out your driver and throw hard a lot, and sometimes you have to do it while threading a needle at the same time. The course designer had mentioned some upgrades in the future years, as they will be needed with the number of wide open holes on this course. Still, the course as is, is great to play, there are some seriously challenging holes on the back 9, and I am sure there are ideas to make the front 9 much more challenging as well.
Hats off to the city of Farmington and Gateway for this wonderful course.
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