Phoenix area's most under rated course
Pros: First and foremost, the course has been significantly improved since the reviews prior to mine were written, and so the course you'll play now is significantly under rated. If you're traveling to Phoenix and looking for courses to play, keep reading and disregard the rating. This course deserves about a 3.75 rating, so I'm rounding up to 4.0. It's a close second to Fountain Hills as the best non-pay course in the Phoenix area to visit (of the top rated ones I've played).
As I learned at the Sunday doubles, the locals/HOA responsible for the course have removed the infamous tees with rocks, originally installed by the landscapers of the neighbourhood (who didn't know any better). And I believe I understand that the course was made longer in the process. The tee pads are now proper, the holes are all par 3, and it's now a 20 hole course as they've bridged the gap between hole 18 and the start of the course with 2 more holes (the 20th hole being a memorable addition). Another tidbit I heard there was that the local disc golf association was going to be allocated a portion of the trees the HOA had purchased for the neighbourhood, to place to enhance the course. If this comes to fruition, it will be massive, and I can't wait to see the results.
The course starts and finishes in a beautifully landscaped park with a threatening lake, but ventures out into the green spaces of the neighbourhood where fences and pathways become boundaries. While that isn't a good thing, the width of the holes is mostly very adequate, and the basket placement intelligently done so that the fences aren't brought into play as an obstacle; generally the tee is on the house side of the green space, and you're throwing diagonally to a basket on the street/pathway side. The paths and streets have sparse traffic, so this isn't an issue, rarely will you have to wait to throw. Worst thing to worry about is a car running over your disc while it lays in the street, and the cars were politely avoiding the discs when my group had some go OB.
The course is beautiful, and there are a lot of similarities to Fountain Hills for me, so it begs comparison. While Fountain Hills has it's massive lake and the iconic fountain, this course a small lake with multiple beautiful waterfalls feeding it from an elevated pond, all in play on a half dozen holes. The use of the lake is similar; 4 baskets placed near the lake forcing risk/reward decisions of whether to go for birdie over the water, or play for par on a safer route. What I like better here is the grass is lush and, with one exception, the landscape doesn't slope towards the water for otherwise good shots to roll into the water. Also like Fountain Hills, a lot of the remaining holes try to make due with a sparse number of trees, and fall back to basket placement near pathways and streets to create difficulty. But because the park is far less busy here, it works, whereas this is a big gripe for me at Fountain Hills.
Cons: The cons of this course are pretty straight forward, but don't outweigh the positives by any means:
- Since the bulk of the course moves counter clockwise in a circle through the green spaces between the roadway and houses, for the majority the houses are on your right and the roadway on your left, with the basket always on the left side of the fairway (near the road). This means it favours players who throw right to left naturally, to throw safely down the fairway and skip towards the basket. This course would be tough if you threw primarily LHBH!
- The water in the lake is very murky, so what should be a trivial retreval isn't. I watched a couple people lose discs in the lake and spend a long time trying to retrieve them with rakes, only some getting them back. This is a big pet peve of mine, I don't like hazards where you don't get your disc back, murky shallow water included.
- There's a couple holes where fences to private property come into play a bit, and it doesn't take a horrible shot to go into their yard. In one case it's a very narrow fairway, and in another case the tee pad and the basket are both on the road side of the green space, so if you throw out into the fairway and your disc doesn't fade on time, it's gone.
- Baskets near roads/pathways is never preferable, even if you've got clear visibility and they're sparsely used. Sometimes a disc hangs out there for 10 seconds and in the meantime a car is now in the picture.
- The tee pads have distances on a brick at the back, but there's no signs, although finding the baskets is generally pretty easy.
- There isn't a big map of the course on site, so bring your own.
- The course lacks trees and you can generally pick your own line to the basket. I can remember having to throw any forehands, and can only recall 1 hole where I needed a turn over shot. This would be a bigger issue for me if I didn't live in a city where most of the courses are disproportionately left-to-right!
Other Thoughts: It can't be said enough, the current ratings and reviews here for this course aren't fair, and I'd make the argument they should be reset when significant changes are made to a course.
If you're deciding where to play, the courses in Phoenix break into 2 categories for me: landscaped park (lots of water and OB, fewer trees), and desert (rocky ground, plenty of short brush trees). Of the 4 landscaped coures I've played in the area (Fountain Hills, Maricopa, Vista Del Camino, and Fiesta Lakes (a pay to play ball golf course), Fountain Hills and this course are my favourites, and geography will probably decide which one you go to first with them being opposite each other, both outside Phoenix. And I do prefer the landscaped courses to the desert ones, save for maybe Buffalo Ridge Park (which you NEED someone to guide you on your first game).
Go here. Try it. If you're expecting a 3, I guarantee you won't be disappointed!
good subdivision course
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course has an inflated par, which I guess could be seen as both a pro and a con. Narrow fairways that reward accuracy. I don't throw super far, but because of the narrow fairways I was able to keep up with most of the other people in my group. They would throw far, but it would go OB. If someone has good distance and good accuracy, they would rock this course. The course is well taken care of. The new hole 18 gives you another hole to play while walking back to the parking lot. It is located on the other side of the road from basket number 3(the teepad is just a mat. not sure if that will change in the future.).
Cons: The biggest thing I didn't like was the teepads. The two rocks at the front of each teepad could be a potential hazard. I don't want my teepads to be hazardous. I want them to be practical. The other thing was shot variation. Most of holes had the same approach of throw long and straight as possible for a good throw. There were a couple of shots that had some variety, but not many. When you get done with the last hole , it is a little bit of a walk to the parking lot. The course flow is not intuitive and is broken by the many streets. If you or the other people in your group hasn't played it before, print out a map for it. The fairways are really narrow in some parts of the course. Most cars try to avoid discs that end up in the road, but one purposefully swerved to run over my buddies disc. There is a sidewalk that goes through the disc golf course, so during the weekend it may get busy. It is not so busy in the middle of the day during the week.
Other Thoughts: We played 2 rounds one round being the normal round, and one being the tournament set up for the tournament weekend. I would play this again provided that I went with a group of friends. Its too far for a solo round.
1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Easy playing course. finished with two eagles and seven birdies on my first time playing.
Nice thick green grass throughout with the first 6 holes being played around a scenic pond.
Cons: Long walk back to the parking lot when you are done as well as many road crossings during play.
The water is very dirty and deep in areas so no disc recovery if you misthrow.
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This course is situated in a series of neighborhood green belts, bordered almost always by houses on at least one side (with 8ft high brick walls) of the fairway. The road often times serves as another border (OB). There is cushy grass throughout and cement teepads.
Many of the holes are 400+ ft and have narrow fairways, so this course definitely rewards accuracy and the ability to fling the disc a good ways without going OB. Rollers won't work so well on the narrow fairways, so this really becomes a distance competition.
There's a designated parking lot by the playground equipment.
Cons: -No visible signage. The hole information is embedded into the cement teepads. So, you're left looking for the next teepad numerous times without much direction.
-Variation here is minimal (Aim straight, bomb as far as you can, rinse/repeat)
-No elevation change to speak of.
-Don't understand the huge rocks at the front of the teepads. These seem more like hazards than anything.
-Since this course is situated between the housing rows and the road, there is also a sidewalk that meanders through or near the entire course. This means, on a nice day, there are pedestrians aplenty.
-No restroom at the park or on the course. Don't think I saw a drinking fountain, either.
-Not much shade. This course would be rough in the hotter months.
-After finishing 18, you're left with a 1/2mi walk back to the parking lot.
Other Thoughts: For a course squeezed into a subdivision, it's not bad. If I lived in Maricopa, I'd play it all the time. So, for the simple fact the HOA (or whoever is responsible for its installation) went ahead with it, I'm impressed. But, because of the potential danger to pedestrians, vehicles, and private property, I don't know how long this course will be available for play.
As other have mentioned, the course pars are way off.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
Nice course, but has room for improvement.
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This course is in GREAT shape. When I visited it was being mowed by what seemed an army of landscapers. It looks really good.
There are some nice challenging shots over water and a few tees with interesting paths.
The baskets are in nice shape and I thought the tee pads were top notch. The design of the pads was very well though out.
This course is well taken care of.
Cons: First and foremost, due to the number of Honeycutts (Ave, Rd, & Ln) in Maricopa, it makes it a bit difficult to locate.
Next I would really have liked to see a bathroom somewhere on the course.
The pars are a joke. It is listed as a par 66 with some 4's and 5's which have no business being that many strokes. Maybe one or two of the 5's should be 4's, but that's it. All the 4's should be 3's.
The walk from 18 back to one is kind of strange. It's the first course I've run across which leaves you so far away from where you started.
Other Thoughts: Though it's a good 45+ minutes from my house I will be coming back to play this course again, I really enjoyed it. I do wish the listed pars (engraved on the pads) weren't so ridiculous, but you don't have to play them that way!
One more note...the 15 basket does NOT go in the direction it is shown on the course map, it goes in the opposite direction and you have to backtrack to the 16 tee. I am speculating, but it looks like the original 15 basket placement made for a RH hyzer around some houses and a few too many discs ended up in backyards, so they moved the basket. Better to move one basket and add a little extra walking than having no course at all due to it being removed.
Nice job Maricopa!! Keep up the good work!!
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Fun Course ... Silly Pars
Pros: Nice long shaped holes. Wide open fairways to bomb it on and narrow landing areas btw sidewalks and landscaping and water. Few shots over water.
GPS coordinates are spot on for tee1.
Cons: Some holes redundant but landing and course management is key to staying in bounds. Stupid long walk from 18 back to 1 (probably 10-15 minutes easy).
DIRECTIONS ARE WRONG! You turn onto Honeycutt Ave (NOT WEST) and there are two of these.
Other Thoughts: Let me clarify. This review is based on the course, NOT THE PARS, and assuming you play it same as we did (even then...the pars are silly).
This is how we played. ****Everything man made (sidewalks, manholes, drain covers, landscaping) was OB, over the sidewalk was OB (except in silly situations)****
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Worth the drive from Phoenix.
Pros: Aesthetically pleasing green grass (in the desert) with a small lake. The course is maintained by a home owner association.
Uniform tee pads through out the course that have two desert granite rocks bordering the front of the pad. Marked distance to basket and par on cement.
Good use of available greenbelt for a couple of slightly technical basket placements that require a shaped throw.
Cons: I really don't have any negatives as far as I am concerned, others might have a few.
A 40 minute drive from Phoenix. Public transportation is a challenge to the course for those that do not have a car.
The rocks on the tee pads could be a tripping hazard if you are not paying attention.
Narrow fairways, windows well within driving error area.
A couple of baskets close to children play areas.
The course ends and there is a few minute walk back to the parking area.
Drinking water and rest rooms?
Other Thoughts: There are a few holes that require precise lay ups or you are out of bounds or worse. I also enjoy the few "let it rip" holes that are free from trees, the basket being straight with little in the way.
This is a course where rollers will come into play. If you like rollers, there are a few holes that will allow you to shape your roll precisely.
My favorite two courses are Fountain Hills and Vista Del Camino. I have played the other grass courses in Phoenix however Maricopa Meadows is now on regular rotation for our weekend rounds.
I enjoy grass courses and this one fits the bill.
Make sure you print up a course map play card before you go.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Nice Community Course
-Generous par rating (a few par 4's and 5's that dont deserve it)
-No shot variation
-A lot of residential
Other Thoughts: This is a new course in a nice housing community. That being said, the course is laid out in a series of greenbelts throughout a housing community with a lot of the same shots (Houses on left or right, basket straight ahead about 300-350ft)
Nice scenery, quiet.. Good overall course. It took me about 30 mins to get there, probably wont go back too often because it is so far out of the "city".
1 of 3 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: Nice home course. water in play hole 3, 4 and 5
Cons: Some of the par 4's and par 5's are really not... but makes me feel better about my game. Houses in the back nine are ob. No restrooms.
Other Thoughts: Maybe a restroom would be nice halfway.
1 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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