1 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Good challenging course with a solid mix of wooded/open, long/short and elevation change with water hazards (everything you could ask for, right?). First four holes play through some pretty dense woods with tight lines and punishing misses. Then the course opens up and follows a creek that comes in to play on most holes. There are a few bomber shots to mix it up too. Then the course plays back off the creek through a long open area.back to the parking lot.
Cons: The creek is a pain to get your disc out of if you throw it into the water. The 17th hole has a disc eating marsh right in front of the tee box (you'll be fine as long as you can throw a disc 220 and straight) - if you get your disc into it you probably won't find it. Also the 18th is terrible - 320 straight uphill. I think the tee and pin have been moved from their original position when the dog park was put in, but I almost don't even play it anymore.
Other Thoughts: Great course to improve all aspects of your game. Not a beginner course.
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Nice mix of woods and open
Pros: Hunter has it all - you start in the woods, progress to semi-open along the creek, and end with the grip-it-and-rip-it holes.
Although it was a little rough to find #1's pad, navigation from there was simple - each basket had some of the wires painted yellow pointing you to the next pad. Simple, but very effective.
The course was well maintained. The woods were poison ivy free as best as I could tell and the fields at the end were trimmed nicely.
This course was really quiet and calm (even though there was a dog trial of some sort going on the same day).
The creek is fairly shallow in most locations so retrieval of an errant throw is fairly easy.
Restrooms are located near #1.
Cons: The creek is nice to play around, but terrible to try to cross. There are at least 3 places where the course is designed to cross the creek, but there MIGHT be a shallow spot that you have to find.
There needs to be more trash cans. Litter was all over and at #2 (the only trash can I remember seeing) was overfilled and piled up on the ground.
Locating the pins from the tee was difficult. There were numbers on top of the basket, but no colored ring/belt along the top for easy location.
The latitude/longitude on the main page takes you to a cul-de-sac in the neighborhood to the east, but it is obvious where you should be if you make that mistake.
Other Thoughts: This was a really nice course that turned out to be much more challenging that I expected. This was course #3 of 3 in 24 hours so I was a bit spent, but it was a really nice play. It seems like the early holes might favor a lefty/righty-forehand thrower, but it evens out in the end. If there was some sort of planned navigation across/through the creek, this would bump the rating.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Fun and Optimized
Pros: 18 Hole course in a well maintained park with unique concrete tee pads and a variety of shot selection. First handful of holes seem to favor lefties, but the more open back nine are equal opportunity tosses. Middle third of the course plays along (literally 10-20' immediately parallel) a creek with steep embankments. This forces you to throw straight, lay up away from the pin, or fish discs out of the creek. Navigation was easy for the most part as you can typically see the next tee from the pin. I'd say the signature hole(s) on this course are 10, 11, and 12 which play adjacent to the creek or possibly 17 which throws over a small wetland/bog on the southwest side of the park. Lots of risk/reward on those holes and precision is rewarded. This park makes good use of the elevation available and is atypical for this part of Oklahoma in that there IS in fact, some elevation, especially the opening holes in the woods. A couple of smaller creeks are in play on a few holes that will sneak up on you as you'll come over a low hill to find a wet disc. Two holes on the second half of the front nine are adjacent to the neighborhood to the north and east, but they aren't really in play. Bathrooms and water fountains adjacent to Hole 1 and every spot on the course is a couple of minutes walk back to the facilities if needed. Signage was decent and you only have to scout out one or two holes.
Cons: Navigating along the creek can get tiresome as there are few places to cross. A footbridge (or two) would add at least half-a-disc rating easily. Perhaps a local organization (college, university, contractor, etc.) could be approached about donating the funding/design necessary to make it viable for the course? The fairways/pins/tees can get a little constricted as the layout is somewhat tight in places and adjacent items could be hazardous. When players two holes up or down from you are attempting to navigate to the few shallow crossings of the creek, it only adds to the somewhat congested feeling. This park has a large dog park and playground area adjacent to the course as well as a walking trail that winds around/along several holes. The park was fairly busy on the Friday I played it, as well as hosting a field trial for dogs on the back portion of the course. Courtesy should be shown to walkers/bike riders/kids, of course. Some would consider the length to be a con as there are only 4 holes with distances greater than 350 ft. I only noted a couple of alternate pin placements, mostly on the first few holes. The photos on this site for the course indicate a variety of lengths, but that wasn't readily apparent while playing the course for the first time. No online map.
Other Thoughts: I enjoyed this park course. It's in a well-maintained and popular park. I was hard-pressed to think of a better layout for any of the holes that wouldn't negatively impact the flow and difficulty of adjacent holes. It had an optimal feeling to it that it utilized the available area to the best of the designer's ability. It was fun and challenging. The big knock was the tedious walking along the creek looking for a crossing to get to the next tee or get close enough to the water to get an errant disc. I'm always a little dubious around walking paths as well as you KNOW somebody in your group will get a little too close for comfort on a drive or approach. The picture of Hole 18 is not representative of the actual hole. It has been moved south of the main park road throwing up a hill toward the labyrinth.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 0 Not
A true "don't miss" course!
Pros: All concrete tee pads, plenty of length and in great shape, wider at the front to accommodate multiple drive angles. Mach baskets in good condition. Some tee signs are there, perhaps about half. Many holes had no indications of tee signs anywhere, but that did not cause too much confusion of which tee was for which basket. Next tee navigation was helped by the rung of the basket in the direction of the next tee being painted yellow.
The grounds appear well-maintained and recently mown, restrooms present, but for a decent sized park, a curious absence of a water fountain?
My memorable holes:
1 - Down and hill and into the trees, curving right. Not very long, but certainly not easy..
2 - Tunnel shot up over a rise, then back down and across a ditch to the green, one of the longer tunnel shots I've seen, and set up almost perfectly for a RHBH flex shot.
4 - Anhyzer shot through the trees, then the basket is perched on the edge of a creek, so don't over-throw!
5 - Throw out from the edge of the trees, over an elbow in the creek, and back left onto the green. If you go bold over the creek, don't go light or you might be fishing for plastic.
12 - Plays along the creek (right side), but the apparent line is over the creek on the left bank to lay up, then throw back over to the green. My suggestion: stay right, stay out of the creek, the right bank is friendlier than it looks from the tee.
17 - You can either go right and play safe, or carry over the 275-300 feet it takes to clear the marshy area that faces you right off the tee. Then the basket is just up a rise in some trees.
18 - Big uphill, long shot to finish the course. Perhaps 350-375 feet away, but plays like a 500 foot monster.
Cons: My biggest con was definitely safety in traversing the course. In many locations where you have to cross the creek on holes 6-13, there is NO provision for doing so safely. You have to find an area where the water is low enough and step on rocks or concrete blocks to cross. It is not hard to find these crossings as the paths to them are well-worn, but nonetheless they are just not safe in some areas, begging someone to fall or twist an ankle.
I didn't count, but there might have been 8-9 tee signs, and many of those sun-bleached or water-damaged beyond recognition. At least the baskets were numbered on top, and not to hard to find.
Litter. All over the place. Not just a little here and there, which is definitely sad considering there are several trash cans along the course. It appears someone created a nice course here and many of the people playing it just do not care about its condition AT ALL.
Other Thoughts: My rating of a 3.5 would DEFINITELY be a 4 if some crossings over the creek were added and the tee signs were replaced/reinstalled. This was a very fun course, with a good challenge, and what I feel is a nearly perfect balance of wooded, semi-wooded, water hazard, open, and elevation-changing holes (the ONLY course I've played in Tulsa, of seven total, that had more than a drainage ditch for elevation change). It has a little of everything.
I also had issues with using the GPS coordinates for finding the course, as my Garmin took me to a cul-de-sac in an adjacent neighborhood instead of to the park entrance. However the "Local Directions" on the main course page give the proper directions, other than the first tee is not north of the restrooms, it is south of them.
Do not miss playing this course if you are in Tulsa. Besides Blackhawk/Redhawk combo, this course is the tops in the area in my opinion.
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: - Nice Course, with a variety of challenges.
- Nice Baskets & Tee pads.
- Would be a fun course to take beginners.
Cons: - Signs on some holes, but distances aren't accurate.
- Between holes 6-7 and 12-13 you have to cross a creek. There is no bridge just a few stones to step on. Wasn't too much of a problem when I played but it hadn't rained in a few weeks. I could see this as a big problem if it had rained recently. Seems like a poor design to me.
Other Thoughts: - Really enjoyed this course. Layout was really neat except for the above mentioned. New and accurate signs would really make this a top notch course in the area.
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Very solid course in Tulsa that's well worth the trip. Excellent mix of shots and terrain. Good use of woods available. Good baskets.
Cons: If it's raining or wet, I imagine crossing the creek twice would get annoying if the water is up.
Other Thoughts: Excellent course in a busy park that has other activities available. Bring your sneakers for a game of basketball before or after.
0 of 1 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Great design that takes advantage of all the terrain (woods, open, water). Need a variety of shots to do well. Good course for technical and big arm players.
Cons: Some signs are missing or fallen. Crossing the creek can be trouble some if you don't have the best balance or if the water is high. In the fall there a ton of leaves on the ground in the wooded parts which makes losing a disc very possible.
Other Thoughts: This course can either leaving you feeling great at the end of the day or make you feel like throwing all your discs away.
1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 1 Not
watch out for the swamp
Pros: clean well maintained. all the holes are challenging for all skill levels
Cons: creeks are very murky. the marsh on hole 17 is a potential disc loosing hazard. winter time is not that bad because the park service has cut back all of the brush. summer time is horrible because the cat tails and brush is very thick and the ground is like mush. inexperienced player that don't have much distance should play safe. it takes about 270 make it safely over the marsh.
0 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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