4 Helpful / 0 Not
Fun course, but not perfect
Pros: - AWESOME 2nd hole from the top of the toboggan hill
- several other signature holes make for an exciting round
- great wooded change of pace from the original course
- Even though it is wooded, plenty of room to air it out on long holes
- tough water hazards, variety of forehand/backhand challenges
- Great signs so far, could be more permanent
- the tees that are poured are great, they'll finish the rest next season
- ANOTHER WHOLE COURSE in the same park!!
Cons: - a bit of monotony by about 14 holes or so, the back 10 feels like it needs one or two changes in the middle to break it up
- odd break between holes 8 and 9, make playing "front 9" impossible
- dangerous water hazards on the last 3 or so holes, if the river had been at spring levels I would have lost a disc or two this fall
Other Thoughts: I think this course needs a minor layout change, you could take hole one, and then head over to where roughly hole 7 (I think) is...play through 6,7,8 and then figure out a new (shorter) number 9. Play 10 through about 15 and cut out 16 (the long one that ends in the corner of the river causing a long walk back with nothing to do). Then work it out where you play 3,4,5 that we skipped before...and end with hole 2 off the hill. This rearrangement of the holes will get rid of all of the long walks, and end you at the parking lot where you started with the best hole on the course.
The park is awesome, and there are now two AWESOME courses here. Well worth the drive and worth playing both of them repeatedly to get the full flavor of the park. This is a must-play in Michigan, and the best place in the Lansing area.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Some Outstanding Character Holes, Questionable Logistics
Pros: This layout features several fun "character" holes, their existence here making the round more than worth my time even with the awesome original course just across the park beckoning me to play it some more...
The course is pleasantly challenging to this former mediocre AM-1 player. The lack of fully-wooded holes on the other original course is reversed here.
The setting is beautiful, tranquil, and features some elevation (where that is also mostly lacking in the original course across the park).
It is a treat to play during fall leaf season.
Cons: The walk from #18's basket back to your car is among the worst logistical blunders I've ever seen on a good course; it ends almost 2/3 of the way to the very back of the layout, and you even traverse a few other holes' fairways to get back!
There are at least two other long walks that seemed unnecessary. The denser wooded area essentially enables you to design anything you need, and yet there were another couple of huge hole-length walks out there. I would understand if those areas were chock-full of world class character holes, but they were merely adequate.
The woods holes, although welcomed due to their presence lacking in the original course, seemed to get repetitive after awhile. A bizarre "Z" shaped hole later on didn't cure that, though, because it's all layup and no risk. Maybe it's a work in progress?
While some welcome the presence of a ubiquitous water hazard, I'm not a fan of a large river with strong currents running parallel with lengthy wooded holes, even if it is beautiful. There was a basket placed in such a way that I chose to pick up my 40' putt for birdie and just called it par instead. Had I missed my putt, my putter likely would've been gone. I'm only a fan of water hazards if you can reasonably fetch your Disc.
Other Thoughts: The excessive walk from #18's basket back to the car took off major rating points just on its own.
I LOVED the first several holes, especially #2 from on top of that skiing hill (or whatever it is). #1 was wonderfully challenging too with its narrow window at tee-off, side-sweeping elevation, and punishing evergreens on the right. I know you've got a good hole when I take a six and smile about it.
The back portion of the design is all wooded, and for the first three of them or so, I loved being in the tight woods after being out in the open all day...but it did get repetitive.
I hope they continue to work on the weird "Z" hole. It has potential, but as it stands, it's not a good golf hole. You basically can only lay up conservatively along its entire length. I have faith that some risk/reward elements will be devised for it since it's so new.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Awesome potential with some small flaws
Aesthetic-absolutely beautiful course in a beautiful park. on the same property as the original course but completely and distinctly different.
Challenge-this course is a helluva challenge. B3nder and I both got our asses handed to us compared to the original course. hugely long holes through dense woods with plenty of risk v reward.
Baskets-Discatchers, new and grippy (powdercoated) relatively visible in the heavier woods on this course. probably need some reflective tape in the future to increase visibility.
Originality-the toboggan hole (#2) is mind-blowing. stepping up to the pad the first time is awe inspiring.
Teepads-when all of them are installed, they will be nice concrete wide and long.
Routing/navigation-SUPER EASY!! I can easily say, there are more "next tee" signs here than are necessary.
Teesigns-temporary I'm sure but they are descriptive and easy to use!
Teepads- where concrete is not present, there is turf which is uneven and a bit wonky in most places
Repetition- the back 9 or 10 is very repetitive and I feel that the available property isn't used to it's full potential. Very LHBH and RHFH friendly.. RHBH, not so much.
Risk v Reward- yep, here too. the river on the last few holes isn't really used very effectively. it's there and it's very "in play" but it feels like it should be more utilized.
Other Thoughts: When we first hit the second hole, we though this course was epic! as we went along, it was very repetitive and uninspired. Very strong start but a very weak finish...
Excited to see where this course evolves to.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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