4 Helpful / 1 Not
Good for a Fix
Pros: Very easy to get to in the East Valley. Never really crowded. All the local guys are cool. Great use of the park to get 18 outta 9. I love the shot (#12) over the pond.
One thing I will always say about these lil neighborhood 9'rs they can make some awesome guerilla courses. So the potential for some good fun is always there
Cons: Short and open. Signs are jacked up, but you don't need 'em. Need a local to play the back 9 the 1st time. Gets flooded during rains/ monsoons and is muddy for days after (it is a retention area as well as a park)
No tee pads (weak footing) and the signage has been vandalized, so there is just a pole with an empty frame where the info was. No Restrooms
Other Thoughts: Great place to get a quick fix if you live in the East Valley
Got my first ace on hole #3 with a bunch of buddies (Jahding, Peedle, Worm, China, Mark, Klimek, Steve, Willy....miss you guys!!)
Favorite Hole: # 3 because I got my 1st ace there, but #12 rules!!! Throw all the way accross the pond. About 350+' to the pin and it is pretty well protected by 2 trees.... Again, I Love Water!!!!
4 of 5 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Decent Neighborhood Course
Pros: Considering the limited size of this park, it's genuinely amazing that they managed to put a decent DG course in. The sloping hillside ads a little spice, and comes into play on several holes. Also, the electric green pond comes into play on one or more holes, for a little twist. One of the most interesting hole involves shooting over the hill and to the right to a blind pin on the opposite slope. Even after playing it before, and scouting it out to remind yourself, its always hard to judge where the basket is from the tee. I like that.
Alternate Tees allow you to play the course sortof backwards for 18 holes. Alt tees are even a little more challenging than the regular ones. Nice because they allow you to flow around the opposite direction and reverse everything: The lake is on the other side, the hill slopes to the right instead of to the left. Evens it out a bit.
Cons: This course is in a mostly open area around the sides of the park, with only scattered trees. While some baskets are reasonably well protected, most are pretty wide open.
The marking on this course is halfway between bad and nonexistent. Natural tees are mostly marked by two little flags jammed into the ground. Look like mini koosh balls. Very hard to see. Only some have signs. I understand why they did it, since concrete or stones might be a bad idea in a multi-use park, but most holes play around the edges of the park, and would benefit from a simple numbered pole.
The alt tees are even harder to find, since they are all koosh balls of a different color (green vs pink i think) than the main ones. Since they are less often used than the main ones, they are even harder to locate.
The baskets are also not numbered, which makes it difficult at times to know which one you are shooting at. The few times I played there, I had to redirect groups to the right basket on more than one occasion.
One of the (alt?) holes seems very poorly planned. It is a shot across the parking lot, that just asks for broken windows and dented panels. Most play from next to the parking lot for this reason, but to avoid confusion and angry motorists, the tee should be officially moved.
Also, on the last few holes, and the first few alt holes, watch out for the cinder block wall that separates the park from the residential neighborhood. Many of the houses there have big dogs roaming the back yards, so if your disc goes over the wall its toast.
Though it throws a little variety at you, this park is mostly plain vanilla. Its a good place to take beginners or to practice your drives, but nothing to write home about.
Mouer Park and Vista Del Camino are both more challenging and fun.
This park would benefit from better tee signs, though the time and money would be better spent installing signs on the back nine of Mouer than fixing the ones here.
Other Thoughts: Not a bad park, but very basic. However, if you want to go throw discs in a field, it is preferable to have baskets to aim at. This is a good place for that, provided you don't toss one over the fence or the wall, or into the stagnant duck pond.
I'm glad there is a DG course here, but its an instance of making the best course possible within a very limited space. This course succeeds in that sense, but its still very plain. Its enjoyable to play, and the hill putts do spice things up a bit, but its nothing to write home about.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 1 Not
A neighborhood course.
Pros: Not busy, lots of grass, some water hazards.
Cons: Not a real challenging or interesting course.
Other Thoughts: This course is nothing special. But it shows how every neighborhood in America could squeeze a course into a public park. It doesn't matter than it's not the world greatest course. What matters is that it's right in the middle of a residential neighborhood and lots of people have a course within a short walk of their front door. We need more courses like this that are central and get more people playing.
0 of 1 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 2 Not
open wet field
Pros: It's well maintained, freshly mowed grass, very clean and safe neighborhood. Good for rollers when not wet. Water hazard is there but not in your face. Good length, and use of hillsides.
Cons: The pond in the middle can make some tees underwater/wet/or muddy and hard to throw from safely/easily. Not well marked- only about 3 tee signs, the rest recently marked by the corner of the tee box (grass) making it possible to navigate. Almost entirely wide open, with sparse trees. A fence on one hole can't be climbed to retrieve a disc.
Other Thoughts: Nice that it has dual tee back around to make 18 holes.
3 of 5 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Works in a pinch
Pros: A place to play in a pinch
Good use of the few obstacles (some trees, a little elevation and water) available
Cons: I feel for the folks who have to design the courses in the PHX metro area...there are not many options
This course was a little redundant for me, but not at all the fault of the designers...
Other Thoughts: The bottom line for me (especially when I'm traveling on business--which is the situation when I play in the Phx area) is that I would rather be out tossing my discs in a park like this than not playing at all...there have been some courses that are so poorly designed I would never play them again...this one is not in that category, I've played it a number of times
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: Good use of multiple tees to create an 18 hole layout out of 9 baskets. Good use of rather unremarkable parkland to create interesting holes. Slight elevation and sloping fairways create challenge and water comes into play on a few holes.
Cons: The last hole playing across/around the parking lot should maybe be rethought.
1 of 3 people found this review helpful.
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