Red Mountain South
Pros: I wanted to wait until I played this course a few times to review it. I actually really enjoy this course. It is set in a Beautiful park with Restrooms, with drinking fountains. right by the 1st tee pad. Also, Great Concrete tee pads and signage at each tee pad. They do a good job, on the first few holes, of using what little elevation is available to add some different views and tee shots on holes 1-4. Baskets are in good shape and generally catch well. The addition of Blaze orange tape to the center poles on the baskets has made them Much easier to spot through, or above the scrub brush. Beautiful desert landscape lets you know you are hucking discs in the Desert. There is some neat wildlife running around on this course, too. I have seen everything from lizards, to birds, to Jack Rabbits. The Wind is Constantly Swirling on this course, adding a challenge of insuring you pick the right disc and find your line.
Cons: Many of the holes after Hole 7 turn into what feels the same 330ft-380ft hole, repeated. The wind keeps you guessing, but the holes can get monotonous. Lack of actual "Fairways" can leave your Perfect drive punished by burying you crotch deep in one of the many giant, thorny bushes that line the route to the basket. A little bit of brush clearing could go a long way here. Not a Con, per se, but the First hole borders a Heavily used walking path, so be sure to look before you throw.
Other Thoughts: The Beautiful desert landscape and moderate course length make this course Fun, but I wouldn't say Easy. There are still challenges on this course, even with the moderate length. Staying out of brush, water run off canals, and keeping a good line in the wind keeps this course pretty great.
My Home Course
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This course suits my skill level very well, i.e. intermediate. There is a good mix of drivable holes, holes that require nice upshots, and holes that demand different lines. Even good drives can leave you with a challenging stance due to the many creosote and wolfberry bushes. I have become a better player as a result. However, it is much easier than the north course, as others have mentioned.
Also, there is a lot more wildlife here than on any other Valley courses I have played. I routinely see coyotes, hares, and a variety of uncommon birds.
Cons: I once threw with a very good player in town for a tourney. He showed me that this course is not very challenging for a player that has a monster drive. He pretty much parked every hole and found little challenge here. If you are an advanced player, the north course is a better choice.
I appreciate the ruggedness of the course, but unfortunately there is a lot of landscape debris that has been left laying around. I am just fine with it being a desert course and do not wish its nature to be changed, but hiring a landscape crew to spend a few hours in cleanup would really improve the look of the place. I know this costs money and I would contribute to such an effort.
Other Thoughts: As others have noted, there is a tremendous amount of thorny vegetation here. Take care when reaching for a disc and where you set your bag.
TL;DR: This rugged, desert course has a lot to offer to the beginner/intermediate player but will likely not challenge the advanced player.
1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
Beautiful Park-Scrubby Desert Course!
1 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Red Mountain Park is really a lovely park. However he South course play completely in the not so beautiful desert scrub while the North course has more than half of it's holes playing in the desert area.
The South course has nice concrete tee pads and great tee signs. They do feature an arrow showing where the following pad is but half the time I forgot to check and still had to hunt around for the next tee. I appreciated places where locals had constructed little arrows out of rocks to help guide us first timers.
Many of the holes seemed to be in the 300-400 ft, range. Almost all of them were basically straight shots. I guess with all this low shrub it would be hard to design holes with any doglegs.
As with all the Phoenix area courses I've played this week, this course was 100% vandalism free! No grafitti! There was a small amount of trash left here and there, mostly plastic water bottles and Big Gulps. C'mon guys! Pack em out!
Cons: The wind was definitely a factor this morning. It was blowing quite strong and greatly dded to the challenge. Straight hole after straight hole becomes repetitious and a little boring after awhile. I played the two courses back to back so that adds up to 28 holes straight of straight holes!
Other Thoughts: The course is OK. I just don't see myself getting real excited about playing here. it's hot, dusty, and visually attractive. Sorry, I really enjoy playing disc golf in nice surroundings.
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Disc Golf Traveler
Pros: This fairly flat desert landscape is on an area that has very low pedestrian traffic which is good and bad but a trade off none the less. Baskets, tee pads and signage are good. The combination of winds and distance make the course challenging
Cons: Baskets are constantly hidden in an attempt to make it interesting for locals but makes it confusing for new players. I have never agreed with this design strategy on par 3s.
Other Thoughts: Course needs a lot of artificial OBs and fairway borders to make it more interesting. they could also add more benches or colored rocks to better define the course.
2 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Warm up for the North Course
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: New baskets, tee pads, and signs. Trees and foliage have grown since installation to make the course a little more difficult. Multiple pin positions and more to come in the near future from what I hear. Unlike other courses in the valley, this property is mostly a disc golf course, so I rarely have any issues with pedestrians or other non-disc golfers.
The facilities surrounding the course are outstanding with bathrooms, drinking fountains, playgrounds, ramadas, and lots of parking. I played a tournament here recently and having two courses in one spot with all of the facilities made for an awesome tournament. It is a good warm up course before you play the North course.
Cons: This is an easier course than some that was intentionally designed to cater to rec/intermediate players at request of the City of Mesa. I still enjoy playing it and have definitely been bitten by it. One errant shot can turn a birdie hole into a bogey very quickly. There have also been more rattle snake sightings on the South side when compared to the rest of the park.
As others have mentioned, this course has a few spots that are difficult to navigate when playing for the first time. Make sure to grab a map here https://www.mesadiscgolfclub....ountain.html.
Mostly just make sure that after hole 10, you go back and to the left to hole 11 and not forward to hole 13, as you can see hole 13's tee from 10's basket. Other than that its fairly easy to navigate.
2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: The course plays through a flat desert landscape with some scrubby trees and lots of low brush. There are lots of spots where an errant drive can leave you scrambling to save par from behind or inside the bushes, shot placement is key here. Several of the pin placements also do a good job of using the available vegetation to protect the basket. The large concrete tees and the baskets are in great shape.
Cons: The course is extremely repetitive. Almost all of the holes are straight ahead. A few encourage a tiny amount of line shaping, but you're not forced into a single specific shot. There just isn't a lot of opportunity for any kind of technical challenge here, the trees are used well but there aren't enough of them. I still would have liked a little more effort to force different shots off the tee.
The distances have some variety, but I still found myself throwing the same discs over and over. There was quite a bit of trash and broken glass in several areas around the course. Navigation can be a little tricky even with the course map. The tees aren't numbered and the baskets are often blind from the tee.
Other Thoughts: Beginners will find this course challenging but not impossible. There's some punishment for inaccurate shots but not too much risk of lost discs and not too much challenge outside of distance. More experienced players can use this course as a place to practice whatever kinds of lines they want, but you can get through the whole course with nothing but a hyzer. This course makes a fine warm up for the other course on site, but isn't very exciting or challenging on it's own.
2 of 3 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 5 Not
didn't lose my disc, lost my way...
Pros: Long tee shots over desert scrub. New baskets.
Cons: This course is really difficult to navigate if you've never played it. Pads not identified, pins identified with tiny numbers beneath the chains - I guess you're just supposed to guess where to go next...
Other Thoughts: At least they don't charge you $6 - $10 like some of the private courses in the PHX area!
0 of 5 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Nice Course w/ Room for Improvement
Pros: This course has really large brand new tee pads and very nice new baskets. The holes are challenging with a surprising amount of vegetation and large trees for a desert course. The baskets are fairly well protected by the trees. It also looks like there is plenty of room to perhaps expand the course with alternate basket locations in the future.
Red Mountain Park itself is a beautiful park with excellent amenities. It's a great family area so bring the wife and kids to hang out by the lake and then go huck a few!!
Cons: The biggest problem I had at the course was navigation. The flow is not intuitive. Even with a map I had some difficulty locating a few holes. Signs would really help (I do understand there is a fundraiser in the works to alleviate this). It would have been nice to have each tee pad marked as to which hole it was. It's an issue which could have been seen to at the pour.
Stickers, stickers, stickers. As Psicko said be sure and watch where you place your bag. I wish I had worn long pants even though it was hot out.
Other Thoughts: I enjoyed playing this course and I will be back to play it again (and play the North course as well).
If you are not with someone who has played the course before be sure and print up a map, you are going to need it!
Please remember to bring ALOT of water, you WILL need it!
With just a few tweaks (mainly signage) this could easily be a four star course.
UPDATE: Six months later there are now sign posts, but no signs. A few of the baskets are marked, but no tees and none of the signs are marked. Even on my second time through I had a hard time navigating this place. As long as the South course stays so confusing, I'll stick to the North course.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This course was fun to play. The holes had different feel to them. I didnt think that any two holes played exactly the same. This course is also different from the ones I've played in the valley. The course commanded a variety of shots to end up with a good score. It is a desert course with trees, so it isn't as open as one would think(still pretty open for those who play technical wooded courses). All the baskets and tees are new and in good shape. The course was well designed. There are restrooms and water fountains near hole 1. There were some benches spread out around the course.
Cons: There are no tee signs as of yet, but there will be a tourney later this month where the money will go to pay for the tee signs. Luckily there are some arrows pointing to the next tee box on a few holes. It is a desert course, this course will be brutal in the summer. Bring lots of water. I played 2 rounds today, and pretty much drank 98% of the water in my 3L camelback. There are stickers that get everywhere. Try to put your bag down in the sand or other spot without stickers because you will be picking them out for awhile.
Other Thoughts: This course and the north course is definately a welcome addition to the dg community in the valley. I can't wait to play this one again and the North course once it is ready.
***EDIT*** There have been several rattlesnake sightings on the course during the last few days. I have not seen any rattlesnakes, but others have.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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