Longer But More Interesting Than The South Course!
1 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: The North course plays the first 10 through the desert shrub before meandering back to the greener, more developed side for the final 8. These 8 holes included # 11, a 278 ft. island hole, which I consider the signature on this course.
The North course features the same great concrete tee pads, the same new DGA baskets and the same great tee signs. Like the South course, there are no signs of any vandalism anywhere on this course and very little litter to be found. Matter of fact, I have been most impressed with all the Phoenix area courses I've played this weeek thus far as I've encountered ZERO signs of any vandalism on any of the courses I've played.
The North course, IMO, had a little more personality than the South. # 3 teeing off from atop a small elevated hill and having a basket placed beneath some trees in some cool eroded dry creekbeds made for an interesting hole. # 4 had a cool elevated basket! I thought that 14, 16 and 17 all were more interesting than all those straight throws on South.
Cons: I wanted to played the harder North course first this morning (when the weather was cooler and I wasn't as tired). But the local directions say "Park at the end of the Parking Lot." Didn't help me a bit! Would whoever is in charge of this course and this page please add that the first tee pad for the North course is approx. 200 ft. straight our behind the restrooms. Wouldv'e have me a lot! I only found the North course as I was
finishing the South.
Navigation was more difficult than the South. I never found the # 7 basket and then it took me forever to figure out that # 11 (my favorite) was clear over there. I walked back and forth between the basket and tee pad 2-3 times trying to find my way.
Unattractive setting (desert scrub), flat, windy, straight, etc.
Other Thoughts: Although I wasn't thrilled with this course either, I felt that the four holes on the back nine as well as a couple of more interesting ones on the front nine really saved the course's rating for me. This is a course that I was quite happy to play once this morning and I'll be perfectly content not to throw my discs here again anytime soon.
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
Feel the desert...
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Good baskets and tee concrete tee pads on all holes. The course requires a good balance of accurate drives and distance drives. There are facilities nearby if needed.
Cons: As others have mentioned, navigation is an issue here. As a regular traveler, I am used to playing new courses and learning my way around unfamiliar territory. However, I found this course to be extremely difficult to navigate- even with a navigation app. Even once a tee box was found, I was left guessing where the basket was due to multiple pin locations and limited sight due to vegetation.
I know it is out of the course's control, but the desert can eat up your discs pretty quickly.
Other Thoughts: In my opinion, this course could improve greatly with a couple simple solutions.
Long flags/pins attached to baskets to improve visibility from tee pads.
I may have missed it, but I could not tell what position the pins were in from the tee pad. If there was some type of notation of this on the signs, that would help to locate many of the already blind tee shots.
While locals may not find this review helpful, I am writing this for those who may not be from town. Personally, I would not go through this experience again. If it is the only course you can make it to, have at it, otherwise try to find another solid local course where you can focus on your play rather than finding the next hole. If you do decide to play, be patient and try to find a local to show you the ropes!
2 of 3 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: The course starts out in the same open desert area as the south course. There are a couple holes using some small mounds to add tricky pin placements, and a few more that use the available trees and brush well to protect the pins. This part of the course has some real distance, with a few holes that let you rip a driver. A couple holes have trees right off the pad that do an ok job of encouraging certain kinds of shots.
The last 7 holes play around the other side of the park. There are a lot more trees over here, and some much more interesting lines. There are some nice tunnel shots and a whole lot more punishment for errant shots. It's more fun when a bad shot makes you really scramble from the rough to save par. The concrete tees are ample and in good shape, and the baskets are still nice and new.
Cons: The desert portion of the course is wide open. The longer holes and the couple holes with limited lines off the tee make it a little better, but it still feels like a series of wide open hyzers. The back part of the course is a lot more fun, but also has some safety conflicts with picnic areas, walking paths and a park road. Navigation is pretty tough here with no signage and some long walks between holes. Make sure to have the course map or a guide if you don't want to spend your day wandering. The course ends a long way from the car.
Other Thoughts: Beginners will find this course pretty long, and the back of the course pretty punishing with thorny plants waiting to catch poor drives. Experienced players will find some nice challenges, with plenty of chances to air it out in the beginning and some trickier lines at the end.
4 of 5 people found this review helpful.
North Rules the South
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This course has really nice tee pads and cool looking railroad tie posts (presumably to hold yet to be installed signs). After hole 11 the holes 12 - 18 around the grassy park are a whole lot of fun. I thoroughly enjoyed them. They added an interesting twist to the Red Mountain experience.. The entire complex is very impressive and family friendly. The baskets are really nice and hold discs well.
Cons: As with the South course, navigation is an issue. Fortunately most of the sign posts have a number and an arrow them. Some of the holes are just brutal in their placement around the mesquite and palo verde trees. I donated a lot of blood to the course.
18 is a loooong way from the parking lot. It would have been nice to see a few extra holes placed along the walk back. It sure appeared as if there was room.
Other Thoughts: The Red Mountain facility is a really great addition to the Phoenix disc golf scene. There was a whole lot of work put into installing these two courses. I just wish they had taken it the one step further. I understand not having signs because of a funding issue, but if you have concrete pads, etch a number in them. If you have a sign post put a number on it (I'm talking to you South course).
While there I ran into two groups who left the facility because of navigation issues (one on the North course and one on the South).
You HAVE to have a map if you play here, but even then navigation is not easy.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 8 Not
Some one stole some of the baskets
Pros: This course looks like it was awesome when first built. High skill level. Long shots.
Cons: No signs. Couldn't find basket 2, 3, and 4. It appears someone has been stealing the baskets. Bent pipe where baskets use to be. My son and I spent the majority of our time just looking for baskets. We got tired and left after almost two hours of searching.
Other Thoughts: It is a shame to see something so nice get so abused.
0 of 8 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Great course! Lots of variety. Some tunnel shots, many holes are blind or overgrown foliage in the way.
Good mix of distance and shot difficulty. No hazards except for the road which is somewhat in play on 2-3 holes.
Plan on being there for 2-3 hours your first time there as the holes are confusing, even with a map. Plus, the course encompasses quite a large area.
Lots of trees, and albeit desert, it's not bad on discs at all.
Cons: No signs whatsoever. I asked a local where the first hole was, to which he gladly pointed out. I figured, I can just go there and it should lead me to the next hole, and so on...
I was wrong.
Luckily, I was able to find a satellite image map and that saved the day.
Like all desert courses, this one is also hot, not many shade trees to hang out under as there are insects and stickers and thorns everywhere.
Other Thoughts: did I mention stickers and thorns? bring boots perhaps... and water, as there are no fountains around.
I drove 45 min to play there. Well worth it.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Fun and Challenging
3 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Playing this course on a regular basis will make you a much better player, as compared to other Phoenix courses. Most every hole requires the player to throw a different shot from hyzer, to forehand, to annys, to a straight shot right down the middle. Great variety of tight desert holes and long open holes where trees are used just right to make you think about it. A slight misthrow from anywhere will often land you into trouble and you will have to be creative to get out of it. Then after the surprisingly fun island hole, you move into the park area where there are tight tunnel shots and a par 4, which I am very happy to par. There is a lot of variety on the course. Even the shorter park shots are fun and challenging.
Cons: Not that this is something that can be avoided when installing a desert course, but there have been rattlesnake sightings. Keep and close eye out and bring a stick or pole to poke around bushes before reaching your hand in to retrieve a disc.
The tees are a little hard to find if you do not know where you are going so print a map. There are maps on facebook and on the Emerald Club site (update) maps can be found here https://www.mesadiscgolfclub....mountain.html
and tee signs are up. Speaking of that, if you are playing the course and happen to see some kids out there with paintball guns shooting up our nice new signs, please "ask them nicely" not to do so, and if you can get a license plate number that would be great. Apparently plexiglass and pointblank paintball shots do not mix.
3 of 4 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Rob Hart and crew really did a good job on designing and building this course. It is a fun desert course More courses the better, especially when they are well designed and fun to play. The North course is the harder of the two. There were a lot of different types of holes on the course that forced a variety of shots. There were a good mix of long holes and short holes, as well as a good variety of technical shots, and open drives. I had to shape lines more effectively on the north course compared to most courses in the valley. The tees are clean and you have ample room. The baskets are new and catch well. The course is in a park that has bathrooms and drinking fountains
Cons: Once again, the only problem I had was with navigation, due to the lack of the tee signs, which hopefully will be rectified soon. If you havent been, make sure you bring a copy of the course map or better yet go with someone who has been there before. Once again, there are a lot of stickers.
Other Thoughts: It is a desert course, so bring lots of water. Luckily there are water fountains around the park, but not necessarily on the DG course. I am glad that a course like this is in the valley. I can't wait to play the north and south course again.
4 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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