Destination/Vacation course, Terrain too steep for a 5.0
14 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: -Among the most scenic courses in all of disc golf, prepare to have your mind blown if you are not from the mountains
-Variety of shots required, the complete player is rewarded. There were backhands, forehands, overhands (great for sticking the landing on the down-slopes) and rollers thrown in my latest round.
-Variety of elevation changes, sometimes drastic elevation changes that are rarely encountered in disc golf, rough examples: 200 foot hole, 65 feet downhill, plays like 75 feet - OR - 240 foot hole, 80 feet uphill, plays like 390 feet.
-Unique terrain, the course is the rock face and pine forest of the top/side of a mountain.
-Unique hole designs, they put some thought into these, and you will too.
-Remote location in the Rockies where all you hear is the wind in the trees
-You get the course to yourself for the entire day
-Destination style disc golf, very fun with a group of friends
-Other high caliber courses nearby in Phantom Falls, Bailey, and Beaver Ranch.
-The course designer gives an intro and overview to the course before your round. Provides a "course notes" sheet with information on hole length, elevation changes, a "plays like" distance, and ideal landing zones.
-Easy and effective course navigation system based on colored arrows attached to trees.
-Course owners often present. Fun to chat with.
-One of the ultimate courses in par 3 finesse game, most of the 28 holes are short and birdie-able but also bogey-able.
-Premium placed on gap shooting, landing zones, and controlling the speed and angle of landing.
-Truly challenging and cleverly designed par-3's. There are some 100-150 foot holes that you will play for a 3.
-Water buckets at various locations throughout course, and a couple small shelters for breaks / snacking.
Cons: -Eroding granite plus fallen pine straw on steeply sloped ground combines to create the worst footing of any course I've experienced. A large percentage of upshots, even well placed upshots, are from places where you will be sliding down basically a rockfall of loose granite gravel and pine straw.
-Part of the magic of this course is the terrain that its built on, and unfortunately there is no real solution to the footing problem. There will always be eroding granite and pine straw flowing downhill at this course. It is a characteristic of the same terrain that makes the course great.
-While irregular footing can be a positive for a course, an extra level of challenge - at Bucksnort it often crosses the line from an interesting challenge into the zone of moderate danger and disruption of play.
-$20/round per person, and only one group per day (this is not a knock against the management of the course, it makes really good sense to limit how many people are on this course at once). Part of the great fun of playing a par-3 style of golf is getting to go back to a course many times and "solve" all the holes, figure out their ideal landing zones, and how to birdie them. For most of us we are lucky to play Bucksnort once a year and never get to dial in our shots on these finesse holes.
-Lack of power shots, out of 28 holes only a few require a fairway driver, and basically none require a long distance driver.
-Physically taxing course, you are almost never standing on flat ground. And almost always standing on a significant grade. Combine this with all the elevation changes and loose footing, and hiking this course is more like mountaineering than typical disc golf. One round here feels like about 3 rounds at most other courses.
-Fairways cross each other in a couple spots, not much of an issues since the course is usually one group at a time.
-Rollaways are a significant factor here. Hundred foot roll-aways from missed putts are not uncommon. This isn't entirely a con, but on some holes there literally is no landing zone for the green and luck is too much of a factor.
Other Thoughts: Bucksnort is a 4.5 or 5.0 as a destination type course that you'd play once a year or once a lifetime. If I'm asking myself what are the best courses in the world to play once, Bucksnort is unquestionably one of them. Bring a group, have one of the funnest days of disc golf ever. You will sleep like a baby with a smile on your face afterward and have a memory for a lifetime.
But if I'm rating it to truly compare it against all other courses, mostly comparing to top courses in the MidWest and championship caliber courses from the PDGA tour, and how it would rank among the top courses in the world to play 10 or 20 or 100 times, it's closer to a 4.0 or 4.5.
It's tough to get a 5.0 rating from me without having at least 1 hole that tests the player's ability with a long range drive, and the Bucksnort property lacks enough level ground to really make a hole like that.
Overall I gave it a 4.5, but I really wish I could have given it about a 4.2. That's what I'd give it comparing it to other top level non-mountain courses. Just realize that when you're going to Bucksnort, it is what it is: destination style disc golf. It's not champion style disc golf, in that arena it's more like a 4.0.
14 of 14 people found this review helpful.
24 Helpful / 9 Not
Pros: - beautiful views
- lots of places to rest
- risky greens
- fun road to the course
Cons: - $80 minimum for a round
- inconsistent teepads
- lack of line variety
Other Thoughts: The course is beautiful and has fantastic views, but the course lacks in challenge. It's kind of the standard CO design style, straight fairway and "risky" green. For the majority of the holes your drive only needs to be accurate in where it lands, not its line. There are a fair amount of "death" putts if you end up on the wrong side of the green tho.
I don't feel like the cost to play here is worth it. I'd much rather see this course be $5 and not be closed to one group at a time. To me Beaver Ranch is a far better course, and much more worth the value of your dollar.
Having played similar rated courses like Rollin Ridge, Flip City, and BRP I truly don't feel like Bucksnort belongs in the same conversation. All 3 of those courses wish they had the land to work with that Bucksnort does.
NOTE: I know there isn't many pros or cons but thats because my overall reaction to the course was a "Meh."
24 of 33 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 10 Not
By Far the Best Course I Have Played
Pros: This course is amazing in every way. The Bucksnort Plateau is so scenic that I found myself taking a picture on almost every hole. Also, since only one group plays the course per day, you have the course entirely to yourself. This makes it easy to relax and enjoy the amazing views. The course is extremely well designed and all holes are par 3's. However, make no mistake: the course is still challenging and is quite the hike. I would not change the course in any way! Everything is very well-labeled.
Other Thoughts: If your get the opportunity to play Bucksnort, take it! You won't be disappointed.
4 of 14 people found this review helpful.
countless wow moments
6 Helpful / 5 Not
Pros: I got to hole eight and realized I had been smiling the whole time I was playing. Every hole brings a new and interesting challenge, everything from tight wooded shots to extreme elevation change, to the pin being almost completely surrounded (320 degrees) by huge rocks. then there's the double reverse mando on 23 and 18 which is 204ft but plays like 67ft due to elevation drop. I kept saying wow, laughing, then oh sh!t how am I going to attack this. I paid to play alone, so I had the side of a mountain to myself for the day and it was peaceful.
Cons: for one person, the p2p is a bit costly, but it is totally worth it and I would do it again without question. I've heard ball golf fees can be triple digits, so I guess this is a bargain.
Other Thoughts: If any place deserves a spot in the top ten, it is bucksnort. I will have to reevaluate what it means to be 5/5 after playing here. Make no mistake, bucksnort is extreme adventure golf and walking around the property can be challenging, if not hazardous. If you always need good footing to throw, then you probably won't have fun here. Also, if you have bad knees, bad ankles, weak heart, etc then you may want to go elsewhere. be prepared for a long day when you go, it took me 3.5 hours, most of the time spent catching my breath.
6 of 11 people found this review helpful.
Disc Golf Heaven or is this a Dream?
7 Helpful / 5 Not
Pros: This is a spectacular course! I have played the other mountain courses in the area (Phantom Falls, Beaver Ranch, Bailey). So, when I had the opportunity to play in a memorial tournament here I jumped at the chance. 28 holes of disc golf heaven. It's a course where one hole just gets better than the next. A delightful treat at every T box. Make no mistake, you have to bring your best game here. It is an aggressive mountain course that will chew you up and spit you out if you let it. It's steep! It's hilly. It's rocky and tight. Trees can foil any shot. You will end up in a ravine or tight predicament. There are big peak to peak shots that will make you question your resolve. You must dominate it. You must be confident in your disc and shot selection. You will need every shot (Not the long ones. This is a tighter style course.) You will shake your head and think....well, here it goes. You have never seen a course like this, anywhere, ever.
Cons: I really can't think of any.
Other Thoughts: The host's here are amazing people who truly embrace disc golf and its culture. Fantastic people.
Make no mistake, this is a world class disc golf course. Very well thought out and pro-designed. The views are worth the price of admission alone.
7 of 12 people found this review helpful.
Good for the Sport. 4.9
18 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Bucksnort was a very difficult course to assign a rating to. To date I've given four courses a higher rating (Idlewild, Steady Ed Headrick, West Lake Park, Wildcat Bluff), but I'd choose to play Bucksnort over those courses 100% of the time.
If you call yourself a disc golfer, then Bucksnort is going to be your wildest dream come true. Here are the many aspects of my round that made it one that I won't ever forget:
• Scenery - OH. MY. GOSH. If disc golf didn't exist, and you were to simply hike through the land that Bucksnort sits on, you would still find the journey well worth your time and money. Every hole is a photo opportunity as you hike up and down the mountain. The beginning and end of the course play next to some very interesting rock formations that make for cool disc golf obstacles. The middle of the course plays out more on the edge of the mountain and offers beautiful views of the surrounding area.
• Quality golf - Bucksnort is the epitome of "risk-reward" golf. There are many juicy ace runs out on the course, but if you miss on your drive, your disc could be headed down a cliff never to be seen again. Even if your drive ends up OK, you'll find that the greens of Bucksnort have enough elevation to make you think about going for the birdie (you could end up rolling 50 feet away from the basket). Hole 8 is the most memorable of these. You are throwing off a cliff down onto another cliff about 300 feet away. If your disc goes left or long, then it's gone. If it goes right, then you're taking a 5 at least. But you HAVE to go for it, because if it goes in the hole it will make for the coolest ace EVER.
• Privacy - When you play Bucksnort, you rent the course out for the day. That means you can stay on hole 8's tee-pad until you GET that ace (or until all your discs are down the cliff). It also means that if you want to just sit and take in the beautiful scenery around you, you don't need to worry about someone yelling at you to get off the fairway or someone's disc conking you in the head. Lastly, it means that if you want to sing for joy at the top of your lungs, no one will look at you like you are a weirdo.
• Service - The folks that run Bucksnort are extremely nice and are good for disc golf. It's clear that they are passionate about the sport, and they are true ambassadors to the game.
Cons: Since Bucksnort is easily the most memorable disc golf experience I've had to date, it doesn't really seem right to give it a rating of 4.5 when I've given other courses a 5.0. That being said, the course is not perfect. With the exception of a few holes, the tee-pads here are natural, which made for some shaky footing on a hole or two. Also, there is not much opportunity on the 28 hole course to use a bathroom, except for at the very first hole.
The tee-pads and the bathroom issues are somewhat nitpicky, but the more significant reason for the 4.5 rating is that the course does not offer championship caliber disc golf. Bucksnort is mostly a true test of your short game, and there are no real opportunities for bigger arms to let loose and rip.
Other Thoughts: The fact that this course is pay-to play should NOT be considered a con. The revenue that this course generates is used to keep the course running and improving, so I actually felt like I was getting a great deal.
Make a trip out of it by devoting another day to visiting Phantom Falls course!
18 of 18 people found this review helpful.
Oh my lord! This course is incredible.
2 Helpful / 15 Not
Pros: The course sits on top of Bucksnort Mountain. There are incredible views, super technical variety on a lot of shots for almost every hole, and really creative pin placement. There are several pins that sit on cliffs, so distance miscalculations can cost several hundred feet and multiple strokes on some puts. If you find yourself in CO, this course is a must. I can't imagine that there is a better DG course on Earth. The elevation change exists on every hole, and several pin placements are so close to steep ledges and cliffs that you could loose a disc putting. There is no better DG experience out there.
Cons: No major cons. As some reviews have mentioned, there is a minimal fee of $20, but the experience far outweighs this small cost. Hole Number 8 has some treacherous hiking conditions, and a mountain lion home near the cliff to the left of the pin.
Other Thoughts: Play this course!
2 of 17 people found this review helpful.
Bucksnort-What I thought.
10 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: Amazing and unique course. Basket locations and never seen situations that take advantage of the beautiful property. This is a Big Risk/Reward course. If you run it and miss, it could cause a few extra strokes. I love the elevation changes and the natural(not over cleared) layout. Fresh water provided at the multiple rest spots. They also have benches with trash cans every couple of holes. The calmness is amazing when you are the only people there. Play fast, slow, throw multiple disc, take pics, and enjoy your buzz with peace of mind! Great arrow system that makes navigating a new course nice and easy. Its worth the money once and a must play for any serious player. Decide yourself about how to rate it based on what you want from a course. I loved it. Lowell and his wife are a blessing to make it possible and allow others to share the joy of this private course. Pauly is great, thorough, and has help design a lot of courses local to that area that you should consider while in the area.
Cons: Natural inconsistent tee pads but great basket/next tee pad arrow system.
A few crossing fairways but that is why only one group a day is allowed to play.
4 person minimum at $ 20.00 per player($80 minimum)(we only had three in our group,so we split 80.00 three ways).
Once you go in the property you can't leave and come back so go overly prepared for a full all day workout.(water,food,ext.)
Had to decide whether to play Bucksnort or phantom falls next door. We only had one day in that area. We would have had to reserve in advance and pay for reserving both courses to play one round at each bucksnort and phantomfalls on the same day.($160.00) for three people is too much when the other course was not in use. That was harsh after spending a $100.00 in the pro shop and covering the 80 bucks for a round.
Other Thoughts: Seems expensive,but for a vacation/resort experience that cost alot to maintain the property at the amazing condition it is makes it worth it for a one time experience. I will come back and try to bring people with me. They have a decent pro shop at Pauly's house with lots of Buck snort stamped plastic and lots of shirts. You will need a descent SUV/truck to get up there in the mud season! Respect the property, have the experience, and decide. I would not care for it as a local, but will indulge as a vacationing patron.
10 of 12 people found this review helpful.
Best Course I've Ever Played
3 Helpful / 9 Not
Pros: There is no getting around it, this is the best course I've ever played.
*superb basket placement and course design
*difficult yet playable for anyone and everyone
*a few ace runs
Cons: *none what-so-ever
Other Thoughts: This is the course to plan a trip around. Reserve it, and plan the rest of your trip to the area which has plenty of great courses. This is the course you never forget playing. Bring your camera, bring your friends, and bring your game.
3 of 12 people found this review helpful.
9 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Very clean, disc golf focused, very well marked, unique challenges, amazing scenery. 28 holes. Lots of personality. The hosts are wonderful.
Cons: Every course could be "better". That will also be affected by individual preferences. I wouldn't change a thing about this course. OK 1 thing. I'd like to see distances on every hole. Maybe not the best course if you are really out of shape or if you are accident prone.
Other Thoughts: This is a destination course for any disc golfer. My absolute favorite course to date of the 57 courses i have played. $20 is a small price to play to have the 28 holes to yourself for the day. And to share this day with 3 or more friends is the pinnacle of casual disc golf. This may not be the best course to determine the best players in our sport, but it is a course that will challenge and inspire you and remind you that disc golf is you against the course. Playing all day here with friends will be one of the best experiences of your disc golf adventure. It is listed as an intermediate course. I'm 930 rated player, new to this type of elevation and geography, and I was very challenged. I think if I played it a few times I could score well. It is a very risk reward course that challenges you mentally as well as in your selection and placement.
There are 3 "lounges" on the course that I remember. The teepads are in fine shape. It rained briefly during my round and it did not adversely affect play. Each basket and next tee is well marked. The Space Rock was a highlight for me. Walking down the other side of that rock can put you on edge literally and figuratively.
9 of 12 people found this review helpful.
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