Charlevoix, MI 
Mt. McSauba DGC Share
Uploaded By: deBebbler Hole #8 (Taken 8/2013)
4 / 485ft.   4 / 485ft. Par / Distance:
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They should make you sign a waiver... seriously.

1    5/20/2014   5/20/2014
Review By: apdrvya
Played: 243  Reviewed: 236  Exp: 4.3 Years
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros:
Aesthetic-- plays through a ski resort, up and down ( and up and down and up and down) multiple ski hills and through back woods. This course is the most physical course in Michigan by a mile. I think 95% of the challenge here is the physicality.

Teepads-- decent. Even with the majority being dirt or carpet, they are well defined and add some uniqueness to the course.

Teesigns-- awesome signage with the exception of what voklgirl said. They are not always shown from the throwers perspective which makes it a bit difficult.

Baskets-- Arroyo Vortex. Great baskets, highly visible in the thick woods. Most baskets are not visible from the tee so this is appreciated.

Challenge-- crazy. The physicality of this course is immense. I can't imagine playing a tourney here and having to play two rounds in a day. This is by far the most physically demanding course in Michigan.

Basket placement-- some really interesting placements here although the over the ridge placement is used quite a few times.
Cons:
Hard for the sake of being hard-- This course is crazy hard. I think this course has every chance of being a top tier championship course but until it's cleaned up a ton, it is a bit of a disappointment.

Routing and nav-- very very difficult. Hole 2 to 3 is impossible. Hole 3 to 4 isn't any easier. I tried following the white arrows, that didn't help much. I only found next tee signs for 8 to 9 and 9 to 10... Would have been helpful throughout.
Other Thoughts:
I would like to play this course again on a dry day and with better routing. I would update my score at that point too.

2 of 2 people found this review helpful.

Great New Course

1    7/28/2013   7/29/2013
Review By: Mark R
Played: 84  Reviewed: 66  Exp: 12.2 Years
10 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Downhill bombs made from ski hills top the best of those at Hickory Hills or Silver Mountain. Hole 6 is a thrilling, super-steep 670 foot hole facing the west, with hilltop views of Beaver Island (25 miles away!) and Charlevoix. This hole is open enough on both sides to throw with confidence, with perilous rough on the left to discourage weak throws. Aim to the right, release and let it fly down the hill while soaking in this terrific new addition to northern Michigan disc golf. Those who have played Hole 16 at California's Coyote Point at Lake Casitas will recognize the resemblance.

Hole 13 is a similarly steep downhill hole with stunning views of Little Traverse Bay, with the added benefit of being shielded from winds out of the west. Hole 13 requires a little more finesse due to being slightly more narrow than Hole 6, but is still a thrilling drive down to a protected basket at the bottom of the hill.

Holes 14 through 19 meander through woods on the wind-protected backside of Mt. McSauba, and have more-than-adequate room for skilled drives. These holes benefit greatly from brand-new elevated tees with large, trapezoidal cement tee pads. Hole 19 is the best of the last series of holes, with a highly-elevated tee pad and several huge trees providing plenty of lanes to throw through. Hole 10 is perched halfway up a densely-wooded hill, with a small opening to a grassy field with an extended, narrow fairway along the edge of a road. About half of the holes now have cement pads (some also have cement short tees), with earthen pads accounting for most of the rest.
Cons: Several holes are still not quite ready for prime-time, and could arguably be redesigned or eliminated. Holes 1 and 2 are quite challenging, but with many stumps and rough terrain impeding foot travel along the way. Some areas have long, grueling walks between holes, with the walk between 8 and 9 being the longest. Signs that had helped point the way on some of the holes have been stolen or are missing. Hole 8 is the weakest on the course, with a steeply-sloped non-fairway adjacent to Hole 6 that is very difficult to traverse, with a particularly high pain-to-gain ratio. Hole 3 is a pleasant, short hole with a protected basket behind a dune, but is significantly out of the way from Holes 2 and 4. Hole 5 has a short, narrow fairway with a 90-degree turn up to the top of the hill, but is a tiring, steep uphill hike. Hole 12 has a pin position with a beautiful view of the beach, but also has a oddly-placed tee pad (not yet cement) along the ridge of a dune with no real lanes to drive through.
Other Thoughts: This course was very hard to rate, with divergent high and low points. This course has the potential to be the best course in Michigan north of Traverse City…or with even more work, a 4.5 or 5.0 level course. With further work on this course ongoing, the course rating will likely increase in months and years to come. The course as a whole is quite challenging even for advanced players, especially from the long tees. Several tough holes on the front nine would be manageable with long, accurate RHBH drives.

The work required to create a course of this type is staggering, but the class-leading potential of this course aspires to a higher level than the typical city park course. Thanks to those at Chain O' Lakes Disc Golf Club (including dgcr's nickrockey) for all of the hard work done in making this exciting new course a reality.

10 of 10 people found this review helpful.


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