Pros: This is a course with very scenic views and lots of different terrain. For example on hole 1 you tee off in the open, enter an opening in the woods through a gap in the trees, over a small stream. On hole 2 you start in the opening again and play into the woods. hole 3 is entirely in the woods. Hole 4 is in another clearing in the trees. Hole 5 is entirely wooded. Hole 6 is in a clearing in the woods, out a small gap in the trees, back out into the opening. Hole 7 is in the open with a water hazard in the middle and to the right. Hole 8 is in the trees, through an opening, up a hill, back into the trees. Hole 9 (over the water fall) is in the trees into an opening with water to your right. 10 and 11 are both in the woods. Hole 12 is up a hill slightly wooded. 13 is very thick with trees. Hole 14 is also thick at the tee pad but opens up completely at the basket. 15 is over the water falls on the other side this time, through an opening in the trees, out into the open. 16 is a bomb of a throw, in the open, slightly down hill with water to your left and right. 17 is open with water to your right and OB long with a road. And finally 18 is open with a few pine trees to mess with your putts and a tight landing area. Left is OB with a parking lot right is also OB with a road. All holes are par 3's and there are several ace run holes, but don't be fooled, this course is not easy for veterans, but is fun for beginners (Ive been both) You get a little bit of everything with this course and don't forget to enjoy the view.
Cons: In the summer this course can be very difficult for anyone. With several holes cut right out of thick brush, one bad throw or kick off of a tree could result into you throwing out of some thick brush. Also bring a disc grabber or retriever for the water holes, but hey, whats a course without some hazards. Also on several holes (mostly 1-6) have slightly over lapping fairways and a few holes you have to walk back the fairway to get to the next hole. There are several picnic areas, walk ways, and benches you play near but just be smart and don't throw, give them a second to pass the area you are throwing or polity ask them to move for 1 min, again, this is a public park. But i think they did the best they could with the area they had to use.
Other Thoughts: The course is currently going through a slight redesign to make for a new pavilion. The designer of the course has been picking my brain and i chimed in a few idea. The course by 2016 should be more "tourney friendly'. By that i mean large amounts of people can play at one time which having to worry about hitting people or being help up to walk back through a fairway. Also yes between some holes (such as 11 to 12) there is a slight walk you have to take but hey, you decided to go disc golfing, its a sport that requires exercise threw walking, if you are complaining, you probably need it. Also for those who want to complain the grass needs to be cut or bushes need to be trimmed. Stop and take a look around at the size of the park. 2 park managers do all the work but they do accept volunteer work at any time *cough cough*. Be neat, clean up after yourself, and enjoy your round. If anyone needs a course guide, message me.
Bagged Another in Pine Grove
Pros: Had more than a few picturesque holes that took advantage of the elevation changes and adjacent water bodies (2 holes on the front 9 and all holes on the back 9). Baskets and signs were in great shape. The course was challenging; had to use multiple technical shots. Got to bag another course while in Pine Grove.
Cons: I'll try not to be harsh, but safety is a big priority of mine (I would rather not be struck with a disc while playing)...Dangerous course design for multiple holes. Examples: Hole 1 you throw over Hole 2's fairway (and vice versa), and there is a picnic table area on Hole 1's green. Hole 3's tee pad is in immediate vicinity of Hole 5's basket, so an errant shot would certainly cause some problems for anyone putting out. After finishing Hole 4, you have to walk back down the fairway, and then back through Hole 3's green (same problem as above). Hole 5's fairway is on the same line as Hole 2's fairway, so errant shots would cause yet another problem. To get to Hole 6, you have cross over Hole 2's fairway. Hole 6 you throw over Hole 1's fairway, and the basket is it immediate vicinity of another picnic area. Hole 8 you throw over a large walking path, etc… Basically, out of the first 9 holes, 7 of them have big safety concerns. Tee pads were in pretty rough shape, but manageable. Fairways were overgrown.
Other Thoughts: Despite the major safety issues with the front 9's layout, this was a decent course. As stated before, the use of the elevation and the waterways/dam was awesome. A few "empty your bag" holes were really fun. If the front 9 layout had a safer and better flow, this course would be solid.
Beautiful scenery, decent course
Pros: I'm giving this course a higher rating than I would otherwise mostly because it is in an absolutely beautiful setting! Several holes play over/around a stunning waterfall and the views to the lake are fantastic. The old growth forest portion is also very nice. A similar course in a blah location would probably be around 2.5 stars. That said there are some nice holes here. Lots of up and down holes with some challenge though many are of the pitch and putt variety, there are a few hair-raising holes that play over the stream/waterfall and next to the lake. In particular, hole 9 and 15 were a lot of fun due to the perceived risk of losing a disc down the ravine (clearing the ravine isn't too difficult on any of these). The course makes good use of elevation making some of the shorter holes play a little longer. In general, the holes that play through the woods/over the stream were a lot of fun. On the whole I'd almost say it's a destination course just based on the scenery. Certainly not your every day run-of-the mill course
Cons: On the downside this course does have some issues. Chief among these is circulation. Several holes 1, and 6 play directly over picnic areas/picnic tables. There were people sitting and eating not 20' from hole six when I played - I decided to skip it rather than risk beaning some kids. A few holes are also directly adjacent to the parking lot where an errant shot can easily bean a parked SUV for instance (with a dx teebird from the top of 18....). Navigating the course is also a little loopy. Several holes double back on themselves and a few tees are a little hard to find. It doesn't have a great flow to it. As teepads go, I didn't have an issue with the crushed gravel material however they are pretty short. You're not going to get any kind of run up - basically stand and deliver (which is Ok for the length of most of these).
The first few holes are an absolute jungle! Very thick undergrowth - be prepared to lose some plastic if your placement isn't awesome. There's also a good bit of potential to lose some plastic in the lake or stream that plays throughout. I'd recommend bringing a few sacrificial dx discs just in case. A good bit of the course was pretty marshy when I played - a change of socks is not a bad idea to bring along
Other Thoughts: On the whole this course is not your typical community park course - it's quite stunning and worth the drive. Leave the drivers at home, bring some fairways, a couple rocs (or buzzzes if that's your thing) and have a blast! I also highly recommend launching a sacrificial dx disc into the lake off the top of 16 - very satisfying!
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Didn't read the reviews ahead of time - simply printed the map, saw the holes seemed to avoid the largest bodies of water, and with an average distance of 260', expected to find a simple little recreation course. When pulling into the parking lot, saw a few baskets in the wide open, and a family hanging about one, seeming to confirm my assumptions.
I then spent the next 1.5 hours thinking "Hmm, that's a more difficult shot than I'd expect, based upon the map/distances", A perfect example of this was 135' #8 - an ace run if I ever expected one. However, find the tee down and to the right, and the basket straight up a steep hill to the left, with large hardwoods on either side of the main window just prior to the basket, and I earned a four, as both my drive and (first) approach hit wood, got on their edge, and rolled back down the hill.
There are challenges here - uphill shots, water-carrys (more than the map indicates), runaway greens, touch shots, and turns, with the lefts outnumbering the rights by a fair amount. Most fairways are a window or a tunnel, requiring line-holding vice tree-avoidance.
One the negative side, studying the map will give you an idea of the flow issues - fairway-1 crossing both fairways-2&6, cul-de-sacs formed by 3-4-5 and 9-10-11. Thick undergrowth on about half the holes could result in (futile) searches, While the tee signs are sufficient, the 3'x6' wood-framed/gravel (partially) filled tees can be an issue. Two parking lots and pedestrian-filled walking paths add to the complications.
Somebody(ies) went to a lot of effort to create this course, creating some paths to avoid completely returning down the fairways on the cul-de-sac groupings, strategically placing orange arrows/info to assist with the more-awkward transitions, and even some orange spray-painting of trees to aid with navigation. (Note, tee-15 is beneath the boardwalk - walk to bottom, then hard right to access it, then throw over stream).
There's a lot to like (challenges) about this course. There's a lot to dislike about this course (flow). I can imagine a wide variety of reactions (ratings) for this course. I'll simply rate this course as "average", although it is anything but "typical" - it is more a case of balancing extremes!
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rec course fun to play.
Pros: The scenery on the last 2/3 of the course was refreshing. A 10foot waterfall, lake, and creek all come into play.
Nice use of the area given the limited space.
Over all the course was fun to play.
Nice recreational course that demands accuracy, or you can shoot a high number.
A Lot of fun shots to throw.
Cons: Holes 1-6 didn't seem to flow cohesively. Re-routing those holes might correct this.
A little congested, example would be hole 6 tee is in the fairway of the first hole.
The opportunity to throw a bad shot and lose your disc is very high for new players on the first 6 holes.
Spotters will be helpful when the vegetation is ripe.
Other Thoughts: Play 6-18 first, then walk across parking lot to the play hole 1-5 after the 18th.
Use the park all the time, first time playing DG here.
Pros: The course seemed varied and had an interesting path through property. The course took advantage of well maintained trails through the property. A decent mix of difficulty and risk taking. A nice walk through the park taking you past a few features and near the boardwalk trail as well.
Cons: I thought the hole near the bottom parking lot (I believe it was 5, 6) curved left towards my own car, and the 14th hole(previously pointed out) up top that kind of cuts off the corner of the parking lot seemed like chance for impact. This place isn't full very much but I could see these two being interesting sometimes.
Everything had the same par, and I'm no expert but it just didn't feel right comparing the difficulty of various holes.
Lots of brush if you end up off the trail, but I don't know much can be expected differently for a course going through the woods/brush. I played my first game here and didn't end up in any bad situations though.
Other Thoughts: To some of the other commentary: the course was added to existing trail system, the system was not generated just for this course if that explains some of the path choices.
Nice facilities at main building area (you pass by a little over halfway through course) and portable facilities at waterfall parking lot.
Lots of close by activities, park trails, waterfall, fishing, play ground, and geocaching to name some.
Not for the Faint of Heart
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Pros: Beautiful little park. Waterfalls, lake, great views. Some very interesting holes. Well marked. Very entertaining course but not for the beginner.
Cons: This is not a course for everybody. Lots of blood letting when retrieving the disc from the many dense brush (major sticker bushes). Water comes into play on many holes. The gravel (more like large rocks) tees are no fun. Found myself on my a** a few time on the run ups. On hole 17, they have a park bench right in front of it. Had to move off the tee so we wouldn't hit the people sitting there.
Other Thoughts: Lots of cons but I really enjoyed it. Lots of things to fix. I would love to see better tees and a few re-designed holes so you would be less likely to take someones head off.
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Pros: Some interesting tee shots across the dam (2 holes) and some fun ace runs. Could be really interesting course over time if rough is cut out
Cons: Hole 14 over parking lot is a dangerous tee shot. its a small gap to hit and has the potential to wang someone in parking lot on errant tee shot. Holes 2-6 would be head-hunting territory if there was anyone else playing as you must walk back through previous fairways and backtrack...a major design flaw. A lot of the holes are lined with extremely dense trees that would frustrate a small animal to navigate them never mind a human being - I kept thinking that I hope I don't throw a disc in and be able to see it but not get to it (which could happen on a LOT of the holes) as many fairways had too many trees considering the rough is THAT thick. Holes were short with some unnavigable pitfalls for an amateur...like throwing across a parking lot (?!) through a narrow tree gap, dense trees on the side of dense tight fairways
Other Thoughts: It seems like there is a lot of land around some of the front nine holes, and I wonder if some of this land could have been utilized for the course so that you did not have to walk back through fairways. It seems like this course was put up in a hurry without a lot of thought given to course design...I would not recommend this course to someone interested in giving the sport of disc golf a try. It is definitely not an amateur course (for the reasons I listed above) and it is pretty frustrating in its current condition.
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