Niles, MI 
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Hole 12 with new terraced landscaping



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 Beginner/Intermediate

1    4/30/2011   5/1/2011
Review By: notapro
Played: 443  Reviewed: 280  Exp: 11.7 Years
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - Course is set in a lightly forested area, with some sandy fairways and gentle hills. The disc golf seemed to be well separated from the rest of the park.
- Majority of the holes are in the forest to some extent, with a wide variety of lines present. A lot of them are pretty simple, and open, but the shots vary from hyzer to anhyzer, with a ton of straightish in between. Having a wide variety of shots, especially approach shots, can be extremely useful here (FH, BH, various OH can be handy). Eight holes are at or under 200', but they are pretty diverse. Some medium length holes help to mix things up, which are of similar superclass design.
- Four of the holes are over 300', which so it's not a complete putter course. A few of the shots are pretty tricky, and definitely need a particular line off the tee. There is some rougher terrain/hazards present as well, where saving par isn't a given. Even balance of lefts and rights overall.
- Some protected baskets, which are usually hazards off the tees as well. Most of the greens are pretty fair, but failing to get there can lead to a very tight or blocked approach/putt.
- Some slight elevation changes, with a small ravine to get over on one hole, and a down and left sloped green at the end of a longer one.
- Good tees and baskets. Old school tee signs including random Out of Bounds signs in some rough (I doubt anyone pays attention to these). Navigation is easy with available map and scorecard.
Cons: - Biggest con here, for most players, is the old-school set-up. Hole lengths are extremely short overall, and usually have a free and clear line to the basket. Layout is also smushed together, so today's high speed discs can easily find other fairways and teepads.
- Course can get a little repetitive inside the forest, as the scenery doesn't change that much. There are some gnarly spots, and some sloped areas, but overall it is flat with trees.
Other Thoughts: - I always have a soft spot for some good old-fashioned superclass courses, and this doesn't disappoint. Some longer holes are present as well, which add some real difficulty here and there. Fantastic course for beginners, and a good place to shoot low for developing players. Experienced players know what's in store at a course like this, maybe worth a visit to see some of the tougher holes.
- Pro shop has a decent selection of Innova, and some odds and ends. Take a look when paying.

4 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 Could be better

1    3/26/2011   3/30/2011
Review By: mashnut
Played: 819  Reviewed: 774  Exp: 13.2 Years
8 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course plays through nice woods with enough trees and underbrush to punish errant shots, but not so much that you'll leave discs or blood behind. The course is mostly flat, with a couple holes using small elevation changes pretty well to add interest. Most holes call for accurate line shaping to stay out of the rough, it's a great place to work on short but accurate drives.

The baskets are in decent shape, and catch fine. The tees are nice concrete pads that are poured well and in good shape. I didn't see any trash, which is nice on a secluded wooded course like this. The course has the area to itself, with no interference from other park activities.
Cons: I'm usually the last person to complain about pay to play, I don't mind contributing a few bucks to play especially when it goes toward the course. I found it a little much here though, with a fee just to get into the park, and then another separate fee to play the course, it adds up to quite a bit. It doesn't seem like that money goes into the course, as 16 of the signs are missing leaving the course not numbered and a little hard to follow.

There's some nice land here, and I didn't feel like the design made the most of it. It gets really repetitive with lots of fairly short holes and similar lines, especially with how little elevation change there is. With this much money charged for each player, you'd expect a little more challenging and fun layout. On the holes that do have some elevation changes there are some major erosion issues, a wet day would be pretty slick out here.
Other Thoughts: Beginners can have a really good time here. It will be challenging, but not overly so, with reasonable lengths and chances to recover from the rough. More experienced players won't find it terribly challenging, and won't find enough variety to keep it interesting for more than one round. Don't go out of your way to play this one, it's just not nearly exciting enough to justify both a park fee and the fee to play.

8 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 Good, Old times.

5+    3/23/2011   3/24/2011
Review By: noahrienks
Played: 8  Reviewed: 5
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Very easy to navigate. Nice, ample sized tee pads. Short ace-able holes. Very good course for people wanting to get into the sport. Some of the holes are nice and scenic, and I loved playing this course again due to the fact that I first learned the game at this course. The course is well maintained, and while it is not that challenging, it is refreshing to play a course like this once and a while. There were plenty of trash cans around the course to help keep it clean, and there were plenty of seats for people to sit and rest at the tee pads. Nice pro-shop with a good innova selection, too bad they did not have other brands from which to shop.
Cons: The cost. I have played much, much better courses for free. I would like to see the money made on this course, go back into it, and some improvements made. The course is very short, and you can use your putter the entire round and keep par or better.
Other Thoughts: I love this course for the sentimental reasons alone. I cut my proverbial DG teeth on this course, playing yesterday brought back a ton of memories. It was great to play again.

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Putt Putt disc golf course

5+    6/24/2010   3/24/2011
Review By: Emoney
Played: 59  Reviewed: 16  Exp: 7 Years
3 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: This is truly putt putt disc golf. Almost every hole is a ace run other then maybe 4 and 13, for most. This course plays through all woods and is mostly flat. Some holes take advantage of elevation,(11,12,13). There are nice big concrete teepads and trash cans throughout. There is a pro shop with a good amount of expensive discs to buy. Clean restrooms near pro shop. The course is well worn and makes for a quick round. Takes about an hour. Nice practice basket next to first tee.
Cons: *5 dollars to park( non-residents) and 3 dollars to play....not worth that kind of money at all...rip off
*Course was built in 1985 and looks as if it has never been updated,u can just play with a putter and score well under pro par.
*The course easily gets backed up due to short holes and locals love to throw at u when ur not looking.
Other Thoughts: This course is truly dated and in my eyes is only good for one thing" ACE RACE". It will make for a fun round for most beginners but ams and pros looking for a challenge will be very very disappointed.

Also for a better selection of plastic, stop at the "pop shop" near stateline road. They usually have a large selection of discs available. Also they are combined with a liquor store.

3 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 Good Not Great

2-4    9/7/2010   1/7/2011
Review By: topflight
Played: 93  Reviewed: 9  Exp: 23.8 Years
0 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: It is a heavily wooded course, but overtime it shows a lot of wear. a few fun holes, but many seem to be the same thing over and over. lots of locals come here, it is certainly the best in the area.
Cons: Several blind shots, directions are not always clear,but a shot off can easily be made up. lots of birdies.
Other Thoughts: locals were friendly and helpful and good players. the park office has many discs to buy...Innova surprizingly - I though Michign was Discraft country?

0 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 Disc golf on ball golf prices

5+    7/13/2010   7/17/2010
Review By: destroyeroftrees
Played: 3  Reviewed: 2  Exp: 12 Years
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Quick pace and easy to navigate. A solo person can get a round done in around 30min at timesbut gets very busy on nice summer days. Alcohol free park also. Decent pro shop with ok prices. Great place to escape from the world. Good maintenance on course. Great beginners course, lots of different shots, teaches accuracy and putting over distance. Tournaments are fun and relaxed
Cons: $7/day for non residents? Yet course hasn't been updated or improved. Good pro shop but most employees are not knowledgable enough to answer questions accurately. Seems they are there to sell discs and not to help find that perfect disc for you. Seen new players under age 15 walk out with a groove for first disc even after asking for advice on what to start with. Course is really short and doesn't present a challenge for recreational to pro players. Tournaments, yet fun, lack incentives and good prizes.
Other Thoughts: Great course for local family, new/beginner, recreational players or if your looking for a disc golf course to relax at. Nice employees and plenty for the family to do.

2 of 2 people found this review helpful.

 

1    7/6/2010   7/6/2010
Review By: BucketBonanza
Played: 47  Reviewed: 30  Exp: 12.9 Years
This review was updated on 7/26/2010
4 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: A lovely piece of land. It calls for a variety of shots. Left and right bends. Some simple and straight. Blind shots over trees with no view of the basket. Ravine shots. There were a couple of holes that were purty decent to look at. Twelve and thirteen come to mind. Elevation changes. Some nice shots down groves. Birdies all over. Ace runs all over. A nice walk through nature.
Cons: I was a bit taken aback by this place. Just seemed like some major wasted potential with such a great piece of property. This place plays terribly short for the majority of the holes. Having to tee off with a putter is generally not a good thing. And where are the course fees going? I was really surprised to see that there was no signage on the majority of the holes. I think I only saw a couple on the whole 18. Maybe due to the short nature of the holes, the designer didn't feel they needed sign posts with footage and a general notion of pin placement. There is just no length here. Claustrophobia.
Other Thoughts: Okay. I had fun here. I enjoy the game. Nearly anywhere. It is just that I feel that paying to play better be a pretty sweet experience. This place was beautiful for a walk in the woods, but the disc golf course was not very inspiring. I think this course may have been designed back in 1985 when players were using big red wham-o frisbees or something. I wonder if they can utilize more of the land at this park for a more modern, longer, and more challenging course. Not bad, just a touch disappointing.


4 of 5 people found this review helpful.

  

5+    6/13/2010   6/14/2010
Review By: Mattheus
Played: 12  Reviewed: 1  Exp: 18.9 Years
0 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: Clean, well kept course. Trees and tight areas force you to use all your throws and keeps things fresh.
Cons: A bit short for those with the big arms.
Pay to play is a downside. Although I don't mind because I am local and buy a season pass.
Other Thoughts: Also a nice park for a picnic with grills, a playground, and hiking/biking trails.

0 of 2 people found this review helpful.

 Been playing this course for 15+ years

5+    3/25/2010   3/30/2010
Review By: MGroothuis
Played: 6  Reviewed: 6  Exp: 24.9 Years
This review was updated on 5/16/2010
1 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Hole 1: Good opener. Mid-short length to warm up your arm. Few trees near the basket set the stage for the whole course. Aces possible.
Hole 2: Over the top of the trees to the right is a fun challenge when you can't see the basket. Trees have thinned over the years resulting in less discs caught high in pine branches.
Hole 3: Short hole. Easy float to the right for a moderate putt.
Hole 4: GREAT long hole to open up your throwing arm, but keep it tight. Fairway is somewhat narrow. Very tough to make in 2.
Hole 5: Sharp right turn with accuracy imperative around the large forked tree just off the tee.
Hole 6: Another great long hole perfect for right handers. Narrow fairway, fade at the very end to the left, approaching a downhill putt to the basket.
Hole 7: Slight uphill, short hole. Easy 2.
Hole 8: Very straight, great hole to try out your approach disc off the tee. Aces highly possible.
Hole 9: Thread your tee shot thru the large trees to a high fade to the left. Good shot leads to aces or easy deuce.
Hole 10: Mid-range hole with two large trees dead center 1/2 way down fairway. Uphill putt to an open basket.
Hole 11: Ravine hole with hidden basket, course par is 4. Good drives can lead to 2s often.
Hole 12: Nice hole throwing over a deep ravine. Accuracy is tested to keep distance under control. Shorter hole than it looks from the tee.
Hole 13: Longest hole. I throw a Leopard or a Dragon to s-curve it thru the long narrow fairway, if I get lucky. Used to be a huge tree 10 feet off the tee, dead center. Multiple hits with unlucky discs finally brought it down a few years ago.
Hole 14: Very narrow fairway opens into a fairly open putting range. Just clear the pine in the middle for a clear putt.
Hole 15: Release any frustration for a long, perfect right handed hyzer shot.
Hole 16: Very narrow drive with two choices: brave the bruised and battered center trees with hair splitting accuracy, or anhyzer around the left side off the tee.
Hole 17: Long, low and narrow. Slightly unnatural basket placement for right handers. Can be a challenge.
Hole 18: Heavily wooded with lots of trees. Fun, but your drive is crucial!
Cons: Hole 1: Playing crowded course conditions can cause other players to be directly in the landing zone of your first shot.
Hole 2: Really no cons other than being unable to see players by the basket.
Hole 3: No cons. Good birdie hole.
Hole 4: Keep an eye on your disc if knocked into the woods on each side.
Hole 5: No cons.
Hole 6: No cons.
Hole 7: Used to be a bit more scenic and challenging. A tornado a few years back toppled some key challenging trees. Seems a little "messy" now with fallen trees half cut up.
Hole 8: No cons.
Hole 9: No cons.
Hole 10: Placement of the hole 11 tee is bad for drives that go right. Your drive can easily hit other players on the next tee.
Hole 11: Hard to tell if hole is clear. Basket completely obscured behind a hill.
Hole 12: No cons.
Hole 13: No good "path" to throw for a drive. Bomb it and keep your fingers crossed. The tee is high, so a drive is naturally in high branches of the trees.
Hole 14: None,
Hole 15: None.
Hole 16: None.
Hole 17: None.
Hole 18: No cons, but stay out of the thick woods or you're done.
Other Thoughts: This course is really thinning as the years go by. Though the course is still a fun challenge with lots of obstacles, many, many trees and branches are gone opening up the fairways a bit. It's tree purgatory on many holes. They're alive, but cut, bruised, and dripping sap heavily. The missing signs on a few of the tees need to be replaced.

1 of 2 people found this review helpful.

 Bertrand

5+    12/16/2009   12/28/2009
Review By: Jukeshoe
Played: 195  Reviewed: 155  Exp: 5.7 Years
This review was updated on 10/25/2010
7 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: -Awesome wooded course, with many strategically placed trees waiting to ruin your day.
-A variety of holes, many having a unique feel.
-Great use of available elevation.
-Good pro shop with a wide selection of discs. Usually friendly people working there.
-Course demands a reasonable amount of accuracy, hyzer/anhyzer shots. Several ace runs.
-Amenities are top-notch: super-awesome putting practice area; good-sized cement tees in outstanding condition; well-maintained/clean restrooms; drinks and snacks on sale; recycling/trash cans throughout course; score-card/pencils available in pro-shop.
Cons: -Pay-to-play: $4. Parking: county residents pay $3, out-of-county $5! Very steep prices, although yearly passes minimize the hit on your pocketbook if you play somewhat regularly.
-Missing tee signs on several holes seems inexcusable given the high costs.
-Closed in winter for x-country skiing.
-Course flow for the most part is outstanding, although it can be tricky in one or two places if you are unfamiliar with the course. Missing signs exacerbate this problem, but it isn't too bad: just be sure to pick up a score-card at the shop, if only for the map.
- A few of the shorter holes seem repetitive. 200' hyzers to the basket get old after a while.
-The course can become pretty crowded.
Other Thoughts: Unfortunately, for the price you pay to get in and park, this course does not deliver. Definitely a fun course, but not having the missing signs replaced after a year really makes you wonder where your fees are going. Most of the people in the pro shop are okay, but occasionally you'll run into someone who is downright rude.

7 of 7 people found this review helpful.


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