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Beautiful but Boring

1    8/30/2015   8/31/2015
Review By: Schmakt
Played: 17  Reviewed: 3
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This is a very well manicured course in a really wonderful park. All tees have accurate maps of the hole layout as well as directions to the next hole. (don't forget to check after you tee after... it's not always obvious!) Most holes also have baskets for both trash and recycling as well. Despite being a pretty active park the layout manages to wind around in a way that helps keep disc golf separated from the other activities going on for the most part. There was also at least one water cooler on the course, and most (if not all) tees also have a bench.
Cons: Course is extremely monotonous... there are a few slight elevation changes and a handful of holes that wrap into the woods. For the most part, however, you are just throwing into wide open fields. This is a no-drinking, no-smoking park; most holes radiate from the road leading to the parking lot, so you area also out in the open for the vast majority of the round... very little shade...
Other Thoughts: I'm not really sure who is the target audience for this... most of the holes seem too long to really allow beginners to enjoy the game, and it's too boring to provide much challenge for more veteran players. This is definitely a park that happens to have some disc golf baskets more than it is a disc golf course. If I lived closer or if this course was closer to some others I would consider playing it again. As it is, it's not worth the 30 minute drive from uptown Charlotte

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

Open but fun

5+    6/26/2015   7/7/2015
Review By: ncbrett92
Played: 43  Reviewed: 6  Exp: 0.8 Years
0 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: The course designers did the best they could with what they had to work with here. Holes 1 and 2 make up for no practice basket with them being pretty open and simple. holes 3-7 are the best part of this course. All are in and out of the woods making the front 9 feel like a fun course for the area. the signage is awesome and the flags on top of the baskets help with trying to see what the wind is doing on this mostly open course. the shorter blue tees are what I first played here before I got a big enough drive to play the longs and there great for newer players. the Mandos 15 and 17 help add something to the back 9.
Cons: The back 9 does get a little repetitive at times. the course is so open it is unplayable on windy days. the geese tend to get in the way on 17 and 18 and you sometimes have to clean there poop off your shoes before you leave. The blue tees could use some kind of better indication then just the markers in the ground and a dot on the map at the back tees.
Other Thoughts: This course tries. It really does. So I'm not going to knock it to bad. It is a nice course to work on big arm stuff or new disks or to shake the dust off if you have't played in a while.

0 of 1 people found this review helpful.

 Good for distance practice..

5+    4/12/2015   6/12/2015
Review By: anrew18
Played: 12  Reviewed: 1  Exp: 3.3 Years
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: The course is kept quite nice. Strong winds most days. Room to practice booming.
Cons: Not enough technical shots. This is not like any other course in the area. Most Carolina courses are based in the woods, which I prefer. I can only play here every once and a while because it gets old quick.
Other Thoughts: Reading the previous reviewer I noticed a lot of odd reviews. I actually enjoy holes 1-7. The rest are basically the same shot over and over.... and over. Yes holes 1 and 2 are simple but they are a fun ace run type hole. As a lefty I usually have a different perspective on fairways and I really like hole 4. The previous reviewer said "discs don't fly that way" and the only thing I can think is they don't have a good tunnel/turn over shot. To each their own.

I would like to see them plant some more trees out there at the lease.

1 of 3 people found this review helpful.

Par for the course

5+    6/12/2015   6/12/2015
Review By: 1978
Played: 234  Reviewed: 49  Exp: 7.5 Years
This review was updated on 8/31/2015
9 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Frank Liske has great land, and is in a really pretty park. It appears to be safe. Teepads are sufficient at around 10'x5' Probably could have been textured better but time will tell on that one.
This course is ok for what it is good for. What I mean is, that it is a wide open course and it is good for practicing wide open up slight up hill and down hill shots, with some wind added in. It has baskets and teepads, so it makes what would be field work a little less monotonous. Signage and amenities are great, there are bathroom, and every tee gives you a feel of being in a country club. They even have golf course trash cans and a water station (that is handy when it is filled.) You probably are not going to lose a disc here and you can really practice your long throws. My favorite hole is #10
Cons: Man, I visit every few months to see if my last impression was what I thought it was, and it always is... disappointment. To have such a poorly conceived layout on a large property with a park department that obviously is hands on, is a real downer for the sport, IMO. Holes 3-7 are one of the worst stretches of holes I have played and they are 60% wide open! (Ill clarify, they are some of the worst use of land holes I've played). So many of the holes at this course are ALMOST fine holes, but then a twist, turn, odd pin placement or odd distance ruins the great hole. This appears to be a common design strategy for the designer of this course. The roller coaster of the initial AWESOME, ugh the basket is where? is tiring. Holes 1-2 are ok blah open 300' holes. #3 you hyzer into a narrow gap that you can't really see from the tee and hope you fight through pines into the woods. 4 is just a bad hole. A 370' par 3; the first 185' being a tight S-shaped low canopy fairway through pines out to another 185' uphill wide open fairway. A disc simply cannot traverse 185' of a slight U shaped (turning right) 15' wide fairway tunnel shot, then miraculously turn left and go uphill 200'. Discs do not fly like that. It is another example of a design philosophy that does not match reality. Then #5 ugh. It appears the designer saw some neat shade trees and a side hill green, BAM! you have a dangerous 450' elevated shot over a parking (lot on the hyzer side). Hole 6 is a big side arm, I guess, but they just planted trees in the fairway; to a teenie tiny green. I usually skip this hole it is so bad. 7 is a par 4 50% straddling a walking path that always has slow moving traffic just spaced far enough apart that you have to wait 10 minutes to throw. Hole 11 is kind of a technical shot, at 230' BUT as with the rest of the course there is just that one thing that ruins it. You clearly see #13's basket instead 70' beyond, way more visible and Id bet most first timers throw to that. There was so much open space #13 could have been 200' away from # 11. #15 could have been something special; 350' shot to an opening in a woods line with a beautiful pond backdrop in the distance. Nope, you are asked to throw a 320' shot to a 30' gap where the basket is 90 degrees and 60' to the left, hidden in the smallest green imaginable.. it is impossible to reach. Unless 5 feet from the basket, all putts are impeded. I didnt cover all the rest of the open holes. They aren't conceived well. 450' par3s 550' par 4's With the openness of the course. The par threes should be in the 350-415 range and par 4's in the 650'+ range. They just end up being tweeners and kind of boring.
Other Thoughts: So ...Holes 4-7. # 4's basket should have been just outside the gap a nice technical 300' par 3. Then a tee box and a throw across the field to where 5's tee is.(#5) Then another tee near the woods for a technical shot to the woods by 6's teepad. Transition through the woods and #7 is a technical par 3 with no walking path involved. Just eliminate 1/2 of 5, all of #6 and half of #7. That would be WAY safer and reduce frustration. I play this course every time I am in the area for field work practice, but Im annoyed most of the round if I look at it from a design point of view. I really like having teepads and baskets to aim to but thats all I get out of this course. I think moving a few baskets and some quick changes to teepad locations would really help its layout and playability. All the flags and stuff don't do much for me. You can see most of the baskets, Id much rather a great design, kinda like putting lipstick on a pig. Despite this review. I would suggest people try this course. It is so different than most Charlotte courses, and it is valuable to practice the open throw.

9 of 10 people found this review helpful.

aimed at the wrong audience

1    12/19/2014   1/24/2015
Review By: dreadlock86
Played: 230  Reviewed: 168  Exp: 8.8 Years
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: -very nice concrete tees and signage
-great, clean park that is family friendly
-flags on top of the baskets
-makes reasonable use of the obstacles available
-plenty of parking
-great amenities
Cons: -lots of long, wide open holes
-tweeners and NAGS
-holes 5-7 have possible hazards: parking lot, ball field, jogging path
-not enough variety, feels repetitive

i really think a shorter course designed with the beginner/recreational player in mind would have been a better choice for this park
Other Thoughts: Frank Liske Park is exactly the kind of community park I'd like to have near me. It is large, clean, well-maintained, and has a nice family atmosphere. The addition of a course was a great idea and the trimmings of the course are well-executed with excellent tees and signage.

That said, I wish this course had been designed as a Red/White level layout. For such a family oriented park, a beginner-friendly track would be a better way to bring attention to the sport. Of course, it's easy for me to say that since I don't live here but I think I'd still prefer my closest course to be a fun rec course than one that tries and fails to be a good blue level course.

Some of the longer holes don't really do anything to make the holes more interesting or increase the challenge. Some of BrotherDave's comments below are pretty accurate (except I liked hole 5 how it is, minus the parking lot). I think 5, 9, 15, and 17 are the best on the course. 1 and 11 are easy but fun for a beginner, 3 and 4 try to be decent and maybe 10 could get more interesting as the trees grow in some.

I can see how some people really like this course since it is rather different from the other courses in the area, the amenities are great, and it fills the gap for an 18 holer in Cabarrus County. However I also think most of the previous ratings are a bit inflated. A worthy course for locals and visitors in the close vicinity. Not a draw if you're just passing through the area, there are better courses that aren't that far.

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3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

Snooze fest

1    9/1/2014   9/1/2014
Review By: BrotherDave
Played: 112  Reviewed: 109  Exp: 8.5 Years
9 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The best part about this course doesn't have much to do with disc golf. Amenities are terrific as the park is really nice. The concrete tees are very well done and tee signage is pretty good. The land is well-mowed and maintained. Little flags atop the baskets are a nice touch.
Cons: Design-wise, at its best the course is really monotonous, like a bland folk song. Then it gets a lot worse like that song skipping repeatedly. Throw long and straight, repeat over and over with gimmie putts and NAGS (not a golf shot) galore thrown in.

If you've got a really big boy arm, you'll be bored to tears b/c it's mostly deuce or undramatic birdie/par on par 4's/3's. If you aren't David Wiggins/Avery Jenkins/insert random long throwing Pro here, you're also bored from repeatedly dropping hyzers into your putting range after pointless max drives. I say pointless b/c this course suffers horribly from lack of scoring separation. My brother and I could have played a 1000 straight rounds and I'm positive that the difference would be just a few strokes. Good throws are rarely rewarded and bad throws are rarely punished.

Variety wise the course is really poor also. So much unremarkable straightness it's like being in a Southern Baptist Church. The only hole with some character is hole 5 and even it plays across the corner of a parking lot and I don't think they got the pin placement quite right. Hole 6 is just bad, too close to the ball field and unrewarding green. Hole 7 is just straight up wack. A very popular jogging trail is the fairway and then the basket is just randomly tucked into the woods w/o any discernible fairway to it (A Schwartz trademark). Holes 11-13 seem terribly forced and odd-fitting, hole 11 screams filler hole. It isn't uncommon to see multiple baskets from a tee or multiple tees from a basket that seem logical so getting mixed up is easy to do. By hole 15-16 I was ready to run down to the water and hijack a paddle boat to make a break for better courses in Charlotte. Hole 18 has some of the best elevation used on the course and insult to injury they use it backwards, a boring slog uphill.

The course is pretty flat so not much elevation change but what there is seems to leave something to be desired. I like throwing in wide open fields as much as the next guy but there are some trees here that just seem blatantly avoided in certain sections of the course. Not much to work with but still better than nothing; this is one of the most obstacle-less courses I've ever played. You'd need copious amounts of artificial OB and obstacles to make most of these holes worth a flying f*$&.
Other Thoughts: Holes 15 and 17 asked me to hit a gap! (hole 15 didn't give me much of a putting green though).

Literally no one is going to play the short tees here. They're natural and marked by hard to see blue disc-shaped circles.

9 of 9 people found this review helpful.

 Beautiful Open Course

5+    7/8/2014   7/11/2014
Review By: bfowler
Played: 21  Reviewed: 1  Exp: 3.7 Years
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: The park is absolutely gorgeous. It's very, very well maintained. Tee-pads are nice and long. Baskets are top quality with flags on top. A lot of long holes for big arms.
There are two holes with water coolers by them that are refilled often.
Cons: A lot of long holes for big arms. Yeah, it's a plus and a minus. They've done very will with what they had to work with. The open holes do get a little repetitive but they've tried to do things to mix it up like putting the T-pad right behind a large tree or making you shoot through a large gap of woods. The wind can really affect your shots sometimes.
Other Thoughts: I think there are a few things that could be done to make this a really top level course. Put in more obstacles and out of bounds markers.

If you watch pros play open course online there are often markers/flags and such to mark out of bounds and make the hole much more of a challenge.

They could also do some things like a ring of hay bails around a hole or a big wooden fence you have to through through like the Winthrop course has. I do know that they have planted some trees to aid in the design of some of the holes like #6 is by a parking lot but they've got a row of trees there that will block the parking lot when they get full grown.

I love that it's on my way home from work too.

1 of 3 people found this review helpful.

1    7/6/2014   7/7/2014
Review By: donaldm737
Played: 114  Reviewed: 3  Exp: 32.5 Years
4 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: The teepads, signage, and baskets are top notch.
The park itself is beautiful with plenty of activites for any non-disc golfers in your group.
Cons: The course is not for your typical disc golfer. While the rest of the park is designed for family fun, this disc golf couse is not. Too many Par 4's and not enough Par 3's for family play. It is wide open and designed for players with "big arms". It seems to have missed its target audience if it was designed for the people who most visit the park.
It was not windy when I played it, but it will be a "bear" when the wind blows since there is very little to break the wind.
Other Thoughts: Very nice course but too long and not technical enough for the finesse player.

4 of 5 people found this review helpful.

Rotary is so wide open, you'll go spread (Innova) Eagles

1    6/7/2014   6/7/2014
Review By: heelboycraig
Played: 209  Reviewed: 204  Exp: 11.7 Years
This review was updated on 5/20/2015
11 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Rotary Club at Frank Liske Park is a wide open course. If you're looking for a place to air out some drives, this is the Charlotte-area course for you.
- The course is simply an open course. Out of the 18 holes, only three have tight fairways - #3, 6 & 7, and then two other holes have a gap to hit (or should hit) on #15 & 17. The other 13 holes range from having no trees in play (#1 & 14) to having some strategically placed ones to create some better layouts, as seen on #9 & 10.
- You will throw driver often on this course, even if you have a big arm. The average hole length is 426 feet, with three holes longer than 600 feet; two in 500 - 599 range and three in the 400 - 499 range. The four hole stretch of #7 - 10 has nothing shorter than 534, and that's actually the most difficult of the lot.
- For a course that's so limited in its variety, there actually was a fair amount of different looks. There is a little elevation variety here (by Charlotte area standards), enough at least make to the downhill holes seems easier and the uphillers play longer. Add to that a couple of doglegs that play into the wooded area (#3 &7) or play behind a mound (#5), you're not seeing the same layout on every hole; just on most of the holes. The front 9 offers a lot more variety, including the one wooded hole - #4. The lack of woods will ultimately be this course's undoing.
- Course is in amazing shape. Great tee markers make it easy to spot the next hole. That's actually not always easy when you see multiple tee pads and baskets at once. Tee pads are also in great shape, and the land is well manicured.
- Add to that, the park itself looks awesome. There is so much to do here - playground, walking trails, ball fields, tennis courts, mini golf, paddle boats, playgrounds, and probably a lot more I didn't even see. This is one of the most impressive parks in the Charlotte region. You should be able to keep the entire family happy, or at least occupied, while you knock out a round.
- Maybe it's the 'new course' factor, but I played this course early on a Saturday morning, teeing off before 8. I saw a lot of players out on the course, including several large groups. It will be great if the course can keep generating that much interest and foot traffic.
Cons: The course is too wide open. The few problems mostly center around the fact this is an open course. That lack of true variety, meaning wooded holes, will ultimately be this course's undoing. And that will be a shame.
- Like I said above, the front nine has some good variety. Once you get to hole #8, however, it's 11 straight open holes to finish the round. I was really enjoying my round through hole 11, still enjoying it through 13 holes, then by the end, just finding myself bored and wanting my round to be over. The wooded area near by #10 & 11 would have been perfect to add a couple of wooded holes. I'm not the first nor the last person to point out this problem. Let's just say by adding a couple wooded holes, eliminating a couple of open holes, this course would feel much different.
- An unintended consequence of the cluster of wooded holes in the same area (holes #1, 2, 8, 9 & 14 are all close together) is that you see multiple baskets when standing on different tee pads. For example, standing on #14, wasn't sure which basket I was supposed to throw towards. I could see three different baskets for hole #1, 8 & 14, not knowing which was which. Also ran into that problem on a couple other holes.
- Contributing to that problem is that the tee signs are deceivingly unhelpful. The map looks great until you realize it's lacking in detail. Tee signs show a line from the tee pad to the basket, but DON'T give any other points of reference, such as showing the big tree protecting the basket on #9, how close the basket is to the road on #14 or how close to the ball fields the basket is on #6. I will admit this is a problem mainly for first time players, and shouldn't be much of an issue for subsequent visits.
- To tie in the above two issues, for such an open course, there are too many holes where you did need to walk the hole to know exactly where to throw. Going back to hole #8, I split the difference between the two possibilities for what I thought were the correct basket, I threw in the middle and figured I would be able to determine from there which was the correct basket. The other basket ended up being #14, so now you know how the story ends.
- I think shorter arms will get frustrated and/or bored pretty quick here. If you only throw 250 - 275, you're going to see almost no birdie chances while having to deal with a lot of open and repetitive mid-range approach shots. Of course, if you love throwing 200 foot approach shots on flat holes with no obstacles whatsoever, and nothing to help you with depth perception, you'll love playing this course. Try the midrange approach on #8, it's terrific!
Other Thoughts: The course looks great, so I hate being critical. The problem is that this course does have problems, or just one BIG problem, that will always keep it down. For all the prior reviews, let's calm down and not get carried away with some inflated ratings.
- If you are a big arm - throwing 400 feet plus - you probably will enjoy this course, or at least enjoy it more than others. It is a big arm course, at least if you're wanting to see birdies.
- For the rest of us players, I imagine scores won't vary much between a great round and a bad round. With so many open holes, you can throw off line, or miss your target off the tee entirely, and be able to recover without much damage. Say you throw 300 feet, and you're having an amazing day ripping off 350 foot drives the entire round. It almost doesn't matter on a lot of holes because that just means you have 75 foot approach shots, instead of 125 feet; or 150 foot approach shots instead of 200 feet. In the end, it won't help the bottom line with lower scores on a lot of holes.
- There were three holes that stood out as a step above the rest. #5 - this requires a solid tee shot around the parking lot to a basket on the back side of a mound. This is probably the best approach shot on the course. #9 is a slight downhill, long hole (630 feet) with the basket behind a large tree. This is the one hole where throwing dead straight would be a problem. #10 is another long hole (621 feet) featuring a wide fairway with a thin tree line on both sides. Depending on how big the trees get, down the road, this hole could offer increased challenge.
- This is a decent change of pace compared to other courses in the area. In other words, this is one of the few open courses in the Charlotte-metro area. If that's your thing, you'll really like this course. If you're looking for more challenge and/or creativity, there are plenty of other courses in the area to choose from.

11 of 11 people found this review helpful.

Great course

2-4    6/2/2014   6/4/2014
Review By: Khilty
Played: 4  Reviewed: 3
3 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Great course for beginners and veterans, it offers a variety of good ooen shots and a few nicely placed strategic shots. My personal favorites are the 600ft + holes as it gives you a chance to just rip it. Hole 3 is the first of obly a few wooded spots on the course but Im sure that will change in time as the course matures with the additional trees they planted around the more open holes. Discs are sold in the park which is a nice change from other parks in the area. Multiple water coolers throughout the course also make it a joy to play.
Cons: Needs more seating at the tee pads and trash cans. Some more technical holes would have been nice but that is by no means a deal breakerfor me as I love the wide open layout. As a few others have mentioned there are a few danger spots, hole 5 which crosses the corner of the parking lot, and hole 6 as well one stray disc and you may hit somones car, hole 7 shates the fairway with a crowded jogging/walking path and is frustrating sometimes b/c it gets crowded.
Other Thoughts: This is by far the best course to play in the concord/kannapolis area. I would highly recommend it to just about anyone new or old to the sport.

3 of 4 people found this review helpful.

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