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Creve Coeur Lake Park - Old Layout

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bwgrotha1s
Experience: 6 played 6 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Boring 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 20, 2016 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

--This is a very nice park with an awesome lake.

--Good concrete tees.

--Well-maintained (to an extent)

--Best used as a driving range; many long-range shots (800 or so feet) across open terrain and no elevation change.

Cons:

--No elevation change. As in 0.

-- Honestly too many long-range holes. None are memorable.

--Grass can get long, don't bring a green disc, it will be lost.

--Course location (Maryland Heights) doesn't necessarily fit with any of the St. Louis sub-counties (North, West, South) and doesn't provide much incentive for players residing in those regions to make the trip.

Other Thoughts:

Say what you will, this is the flattest course in St. Louis county. I'm pretty sure it's even more flat than Kircher, but the holes are longer and more forgettable somehow.
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jvbh792
Experience: 8.1 years 16 played 12 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Creve cour 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 9, 2016 Played the course:once

Pros:

Course wasn't difficult to navigate for a first timer.

Cons:

Felt basic. No overly memorable holes, but they did the best with the land they had.

Other Thoughts:

I will probably only return to this course if I'm in the area with friends just because there are other courses closer to me that I find more enjoyable.
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Smikema
Experience: 2 played 1 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Long holes, better than I expected 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 25, 2015 Played the course:once

Pros:

-Can definitely get some long drive practice in during your round.
-I was expecting a flat boring course with no obstacles but there are enough trees/bushes/tall grass to make things a little more interesting.
-quite a few left to right holes to practice long turnovers/forehand throws.
-yellow baskets are easy to see which is good since they are often really far from the tee pads.

Cons:

-A lot of room for error. Not much risk/reward.
-not as technical as some of the other courses in the area.
-no elevation change
-beginners would have a hard time on the course because of the distances.
-tee pad signs should have estimated pin positions.
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Wise Fool
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 15.1 years 125 played 116 reviews
2.50 star(s)

If You Love to Bomb Shots... 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 12, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

-Really nice long concrete tee-pads that provide a lot of room for the run-ups you will need on all of the long holes.
-Innova Discatcher baskets that are in very good shape and easy to see because they have the yellow top.
-Course navigation was very easy. The flow made sense, and there are paths mowed into the grass between the baskets to the next tee-pad.
-Three pin positions on each hole.
-If you like long bomber holes that really let you air it out this is the course for you.
-I like that there are fairways cut into the grass. Playing the long grass as out of bounds helps to add a little more challenge to some of the longer more open holes.
-Very beautiful park and great views of the lake.
-Disc golf only area of the park.

Cons:

-The distance on this course is ridiculous. There are only four or five holes on the this course under 500 feet. I enjoy super long holes, but in moderation, this course lacks a balance of different distances and all of the holes just start to feel really long.
-There are really no technical holes on this course. Every holes is a mostly open fairway with some trees on each hole, but most of the trees were pretty easy to avoid without too much shot shaping. This con is alleviated a little bit by the mowed fairways.
-The course starts to feel very repetitive. On most of the holes, you basically throw a couple long drives before you make it to the basket and then putt. There aren't really enough trees on this course to make shot placement on the first shots of a hole important.
-Hole 12, the only hole, that is technical feels a little unfair. It is an open shot down to a basket enclosed in some trees, but the two entrances to the enclosed basket are very tight and it feels like getting to the basket on this hole involves a lot of luck, to avoid a tree or three.
-No multiple tee-pads. I feel like some shorter tee-pads on the longer holes would help make this course more fun for people who aren't a huge fan of super long holes.
-Wish the course had tee-signs that showed the layout of the hole. Since a lot of baskets are so far away from the tee-pad, it is hard to tell where the basket is on some holes, which leads to some long walks up the fairway to find the basket.
-A couple of the holes throw close to the road that runs to the park, which causes a few safety issues.
-This course is as flat as a board

Other Thoughts:

This is an average course that really has only one type of hole. If you like throwing super long holes, you will enjoy this course, but if you are looking for something that requires some more shot placement, shot shaping and technical shots, you are best playing somewhere else.
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esaitta3
Experience: 6 played 1 reviews
3.00 star(s)

LOOOONG 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 29, 2014 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

-concrete tee pads
-ability to let you bomb it
- easy to walk
- good signage
- good baskets

Cons:

- not very well groomed
- should have a better mix of short and long holes
- not too much variety in hole design
- grass is getting a bit long
- can be extremely windy from the nearby lake
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jasonrigler
Experience: 11.4 years 120 played 15 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Long 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Sep 9, 2013 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Huge open holes. Easy to navigate. Nice teepads and signage.

Cons:

Flat and somewhat repetitive. A few disc swallowing weed mounds can ruin a round...

Other Thoughts:

Great place to unleash the drivers. You can't just blindly throw as there are trees to navigate. Bad news is this course is scheduled to lose the back 9. Maybe they can redesign when that happens for a more compact 18.
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discdanny
Experience: 10.8 years 37 played 17 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Under Utilized 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jan 21, 2013 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

This place is really cool and extremely under utilized. As previously stated in other reviews.. If you like an opportunity to air your arm out, this is the place for you. Something very unique about this place is the lake that spans the entirety of this huge course. The lake also makes for some really stellar sunrise/late evening golf that cant be found anywhere else in the STL area. Another pro in my opinion (though this may be a feeling shared by others) is the amount of wind. Wind gusts here can be extreme!!.

Other Pros Include:
-Concrete Tee Pads
-Multiple pin locations
-Trash Cans
-Loops after 9
-Bulletin Board
-Relatively easy to navigate

Cons:

- Not well maintained anymore
- land is just a bit flat for my taste
- Not played enough due to lack of care (mowing)
-For some unknown reason.. there is huge pile of concrete in the middle of the field on the back 9

Other Thoughts:

I wish this course would get a bit of a rejuvenation
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Broll
Experience: 10 played 10 reviews
2.50 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 19, 2012 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

if you like to throw a disc and watch it fly , this is the course. very long and somewhat challenging if you find yourself off the fairway. good location next to the lake with hiking trails to walk after a round or you can hit the casinos!

Cons:

Grass can be high at times, it seems to gone down hill after mowing retreated.
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bschuff
Experience: 6 played 5 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Big Arm Park 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 2, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

-Great park for people that like to let em fly.
-Nice baskets.
-Concrete pads.
-Kiosk for disc golfers near tee 1 and score cards with map on the back.
-Decent signage.
-Going to need some shot variety to get to the pin on some holes.

Cons:

-Everything off the fairway is knee high grass.
-Lots of bugs.
-Basically just wide open fairways for every hole... makes for a very long course.
-Easy to lose a disc in the weeds or even on a few of the holes bc they are right on some fiercy tree lines.
-If its windy it will make for a long day.. with it being so wide open wind really effects the course.
-Need a map to play this if you are a first timer.
-Really long repitative course. Gets boring.
-Some holes play next to fences, streets and walk ways.

Other Thoughts:

All in all I really didn't enjoy this course very much. Felt like I was playing the same holes over and over. The bugs are not fun to deal with and the knee high grass sucks to play out of. I will play this course again, if I happen to be out that way.
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birdman101
Experience: 14.6 years 59 played 24 reviews
3.00 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 29, 2012 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

This is one of the longest courses in the St. Louis area, so if you like to let em fly/ have a big arm its your kind of course.
It is an extremely flat track of land that has tons of mature trees, and sits across from the lake.

The baskets are in great shape and some of them are surrounded by the trees, and shrubs adding some need for accuracy aside from the grip it and rip it feeling you get standing on the tee.

The wind off the lake changes and can be strong one day and calm the next allowing the course to play completely differently from day to day.

Several holes have interesting aspects to them. Holes 1 and 18 have trees planted to force you to throw away from the road. Hole 3 has a tunnel affect coming off the tee. Hole 4 is a long par 5 that requires an accurate upshot due to OB around the basket. Hole 7 forces a throw between 2 trees off the tee.
Hole 12 is probably the most interesting hole. It forces a RHBH turnover or RHFH shot to get to an opening into the woods with the basket tucked 50+ft back in to them. There is a huge tree guarding that opening

concrete tees are huge and in great shape.

Tee signs are still the old ones with the 3 pin placements listed with a distances and a bolt telling which position it was currently in.

There are 3 pin placements on each hole. Some change the hole others just make it shorter or longer.

There are some trashcans throughout the park, and benches on most holes.

The course does loop back on after 9 holes to the parking lot, so you can play 9 or 18 and end up at the start.

Cons:

THIS PAST SUMMER THE PARKS DEPARTMENT CLOSED THE PARK TO AVOID HAVING TO MOW IT. (not sure if that will happen again or not). There was also talk of building a maintenance shed on part of the back 9.
So its winter only and the grass is still sort of long in spots.

This is a grip it and rip it type course (with some shot shaping) but for the most part every hole takes at least 2 good shots for an average player to get within putting range. And most tee shots have the same wide open just chuck it feel to them.

Other Thoughts:

This is a great course and worth playing, but it does lack some of the "fun" / variety of shots that other courses in the area provide.

I would not advise taking a beginner out here unless they are already hooked it may turn them off to the game.

I will updates this when i hear info about the spring/ summer plans for this year.
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smokey102977
Experience: 19.1 years 22 played 12 reviews
2.00 star(s)

Creve Coeur DGC 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 17, 2012 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

This was my favorite course for a long time. Super long, tight greens, and flat. Trees come into play but are easily avoidable.

Cons:

The course is no longer open during the summer. I only play in the summer. The parks dept. doesn't maintain the course anymore.
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trvsjnr
Experience: 12.3 years 17 played 1 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Long Walk 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 6, 2012 Played the course:once

Pros:

Open area with mature trees, long holes, maps available to navigate course, all fairly close to parking lot

Cons:

Grass needs to have a date with a lawn mower, around a foot tall in spots. Hole 12 is a joke, with the basket being about 50 feet in the woods. We would have never found it had another player not told us where it was. Flat course, no elevation changes at all. Really not sure why there are several areas roped off on the back 9.

Other Thoughts:

A group of us came over from Mt. Vernon, IL to play this course because we heard it was about to be taken out. We wanted to play it before it was gone. Now we can say we did. Not much else to say about it.
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TreeHate
Experience: 24.8 years 16 played 5 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Safari! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Feb 25, 2012 Played the course:once

Pros:

Awesome course for safari! Tee pads and goals well labeled.
Very flat which gives you the opportunity to really test out your arm.

Cons:

With a lake so close by being very open most of the days I have been out there have been very windy.
Right along side a golf course for a couple of holes which has many signs clearly stating "no trespassing" "prosecution" and with high winds, good luck.
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Gflap
Silver level trusted reviewer
Experience: 20.6 years 423 played 33 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Long Arm Heaven 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jan 7, 2012 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

The course is in a beautiful park along a large lake with sailing and walking path bordering the course on the south side. Plenty of parking. DG course section is dedicated mostly to disc golf. Mature trees present on most holes as obstacles. Despite the flatness of the course there are some interesting holes that incorporate trees, OB areas and a bordering ball golf course fence line to provide a challenge. For the long arms, this is a great place to air it out. Multiple pin placements. Concrete pads of decent size.

Cons:

As posted in previous reviews, navigation and signage is an issue. From what I've heard, new signs with hole descriptions should be ready by the STLO which will be held the 1st w/e in May. Tall grass is a problem as the parks dept have been cutting costs by only mowing the fairways during the spring and summer months. Lack of the more fun par 3s as there are only 5 of them. Can be very windy off the lake.

Other Thoughts:

Creve Coeur Park is different than most of the area courses in that it is flat and very long measuring anywhere from 8500 to 10000 feet. The best time to play this course is in the winter when the grass is dormant. The CC ice bowl recently had 92 contestants with Nikko winning with a 56.
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Awol
Experience: 20.8 years 22 played 8 reviews
2.00 star(s)

Long, but no signs 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Sep 2, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

Good place to really air it out. If you have a big arm, you will love this course.

A couple holes offer a little bit of shot variety to keep it interesting

Cons:

- No signs showing hole design whatsoever.

- Most of the holes are "throw it really far" and that can get old if you don't have a big arm.

Other Thoughts:

Just like with Endicott. No signs showing the layout of the hole. Almost impossible for a newbie to get around. We were fortunate enough to have a local offer to show us the course. Otherwise we would have been guessing at which basket to go to next.

Really fun place if you want to show off a big arm, but good luck navigating the course.
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GatewayDiscSports
Experience: 34.6 years 20 played 4 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Great Course for 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 17, 2011 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

The course in this park challenges the best players to throw both long and short shots equally effectively. It is very long and will test your driving in that holes are strategically designed to force strategic driving instead of just "letting it fly." It is set in a beautiful park between a large lake and a wooded area/ball golf course over the fence.

Cons:

Can be difficult for beginners due to its length, although there are a few fairly short holes.

Other Thoughts:

This course is about as top-notch a course that could've been created out of a piece of land that doesn't have a whole lot of variety. The setting is nice, but the land is very flat. Still, the variety of shots and holes you'll see here is still very wide.

Trivia: this is top Gateway Disc Sports course designer David McCormack's first permanent design, built in 1989.
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mashnut
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 22.1 years 831 played 767 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Flat and long 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 5, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

The course plays through a large grassy area scattered with mature trees and surrounded by various OB. A couple holes bring a more wooded area into play, for a nice change of pace and little more line shaping. There is lots of good length here, if you like to rip longer drives this is a great course for it, there are a couple shorter holes but most require a long rip (or two). There are enough trees that you have to do some shot shaping, and many baskets are close enough to trees and bushes that some placement skill is called for.

There are good concrete pads for all the holes that are large enough for a run up on the long holes. The baskets are older discatchers that still catch fine. The hole signs have a nice washer system showing which of the pin placements are in use, and the multiple pin locations looked like they would change up the course enough to keep it more interesting.

Cons:

The holes get really repetitive, nearly every hole is basically straight, long, and mostly open with just a few trees to avoid. It's fun to throw hard and watch the disc fly, but that gets old when it's every hole on the course. The grass was pretty long, it was often shaggy enough that we had to look for discs that we knew landed right in the middle of the fairway, that gets a little frustrating. In general the course felt pretty scruffy and unkempt.

Too many of the holes play near roads and fences, there are some safety issues and some places where it's too easy to lose a disc where you can't get it back. The tee signs are useful if you know the course, but they have no information on direction or shape of the hole. When the basket is 800 feet away and several are visible out in the distance, it's a little frustrating to walk that far to read the number on the basket.

Other Thoughts:

This is a course where big arms can really let loose and bomb some drives. Newer players will be pretty frustrated by the combination of lots of length and long grass on the fairways (and lots of hidden holes) pretty frustrating. More experienced players won't find much variety or any challenges other than length. This one isn't at the top of the list of courses in the area, but is a good place to work on longer throws.
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gkeberhart
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 15.6 years 36 played 31 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Incredibly Long 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 18, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

Good amount of length and trees. This course really tested my ability to make a decision as far as what route I wanted to take such that I had a great lie for an approach or long putt. The fairways looked like they had been recently trimmed which was nice as it made it feel even more like a real golf course. #12 is a totally unique hole, it requires a perfectly placed tee shot along with a great approach for a 3, I left with a 6 on that hole and felt I had stolen it. The course is placed in a very peaceful and polite area; a ball golf course on one side and a lake on the other. I found it very enjoyable to play there.

Cons:

TEE Signs again, the distances and pin position were often very accurate but it didnt help me at all when I didnt even know where to look for the baskets. Although I cought it on a day where it looked as though it had been mowed recently it doesnt appear that it gets mowed often so the rough was a little outrageous in some areas. It was painfully flat and the long grass masked some small pot holes that were perfect for turning an ankle in. There was a rather large tree that had fallen on #13 which altered the hole for the easier, but they chose not to remove it after it fell which still makes the hole tough but in my mind may become a safety hazzard with younger kids climbing around it (I only say it because I did it in an effort to get to my disc and managed a few good scrapes)

Other Thoughts:

Despite the fact that I am only giving it a 3, I really enjoyed playing here and cant wait to make it back to the course again to play again. Even though I have a fairly big drive (on average 400+) I generally prefer shorter more densly wooded courses, but was not let down by the shot shaping provided on some of the holes on this course. I would like to see some of the fairways lined with more trees in the future but for now they have done quite well with the limited land they were given.
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discoholic
Experience: 15.8 years 123 played 8 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Long 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 22, 2010 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

This is the longest course in St. Louis. It has 11 par 4's and 2 par 5's and plays over 10,000 feet in the long position. While there is a premium on distance, accuracy and placement are the key to a good score here. Most holes require two, or more, long drives. This course is perfectly flat and mostly open, but the few old growth trees provide enough challenge to keep you coming back.

Good concrete tee pads and baskets. There are score cards with a map at the first tee.

Cons:

The flat and long is pretty repetitive. The grass can be up to your elbows. It can be windy because there is a lake right across the street. The signs are not much help, unless you are familiar with the course. Not enough benches or trash cans.

Other Thoughts:

They recently put a couple of porta-pottys on hole two. On hole 7 and 8 you might lose a disk over the fence to the right on the 'ball golf' course. The "course info" says that there are multiple tee pads, but there is only one per hole. There is a blind draw doubles game on Wednesday at 4:30ish.
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Tyler V
Gold level trusted reviewer
Premium Member
Experience: 16.8 years 147 played 98 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Good, Long Course 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 13, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

This course provides a different feel than Endicott or Jefferson Barracks in the sense that it is a flat course. The teepads and signs are the same as most other courses in St. Louis, with the 3 distances and bolt showing which placement. The course uses the trees in the park well to give each hole a different feel. If you like to power drive your discs, this will be a great course for you. This course has some nice scenery as well, with a lake right on the other side of the main road. The park was in great shape overall which make any game better.

Cons:

The course lacks a lot of variety due to the flat surface and hole distances. Half the holes when I played were over 500 feet, some well over that. This made the course feel kind of redundant though like I said they manage to make each hole its own the way they use the natural obstacles provided. The St. Louis course signs like the ones here could provide a little more information, but this is not a big deal in the sense that after one trip through the course you'll be fine every other time.

Other Thoughts:

I'm relatively new to the area, having just played 3 of the 18 hole courses so far. I have enjoyed each one so far and like how every course has a different feel to it. While flat, open and constantly long may not always be the best, I liked it because the other St. Louis courses have that to my knowledge. Also, while the signs don't show where the holes are. It's easy to spot each one. My only problem finding a hole was 12 due to the placement in use being away from the other 2. I'm not best power thrower in the world, and it did take me more than 1 drive on a lot of holes, but this course still gave me a great game of disc golf. If you are from this area and have not played here yet, I recommend that you do.
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