St. Louis (Maryland Heights), MO
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 Creve Coeur Review

1    4/8/2009   4/9/2009
Review By: Brunked
Played: 2  Reviewed: 2
8 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: good practice for long drives
very open course
close parking
easy to find next tee
good mix of pars
bright yellow baskets
great level concrete tees
Cons: long course for beginners
trees right in the fairways
no elevation change
no scenery change
somewhat hard to find baskets due to distance
close to roads and "NO TRESPASSING" fence...oops bounced off a tree...
didn't have score cards or maps (atleast while i was there)
Other Thoughts: not a good starting course
if you don't have your distance down this isn't the course for you

8 of 9 people found this review helpful.

 Flat and weird

5+    12/30/2008   12/30/2008
Review By: lukegardner
Played: 7  Reviewed: 6
6 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Long course with a good mix of pars.
Uses the space very well - obviously designed by someone who likes to throw around trees.
Takes a fairly long time to play (though that could be a con) as it's just huge.
Cons: Hole 12 or 13 has an absolutely silly "hallway" pin that's hidden in a narrow corridor of trees - it seems novel at first but is really unnecessary.
Completely flat. It's just in a field, basically.
Very old pins. Tees are also aging rapidly.
STL disc golf club's map is not clear enough on pin placement, especially since some of the pins are 600 feet away from the tee.
Other Thoughts: Good, if only because it offers a nice variety of shot possibilities. Could have been put in a better location with more interesting terrain. Absolutely worth playing, however, as there's enough variety here to keep you entertained for a while.

6 of 7 people found this review helpful.

 a good day frolfing

2-4    12/25/2008   12/25/2008
Review By: FENTONflyer
Played: 9  Reviewed: 6  Exp: 6.9 Years
4 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: This is definitely one of my favorite course in the Saint Louis area. It has long open fairways mixed with some challenging mid-range shots. I really enjoy the woods hole on the back 9. A nice anhyzer or forehand will get you into good putting range. Also on the front 9 there is a hole that is 150+ feet right in between some tree which is cool.
Cons: I really do not have any cons to this course except for the wind sometimes. Due to the lake right next to the course the wind and cold can be worse than other places.
Other Thoughts: I would highly recommend going to the creve coeur course. On the back 9 one of the pin placements for one of the holes is 935 and the closest id 801. If you like to throw your discs long with some decent obstacles this is a really good course.

4 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 Not Worth the Trip

2-4    11/16/2008   11/16/2008
Review By: REDARMY
Played: 32  Reviewed: 29  Exp: 5.9 Years
This review was updated on 10/20/2009
8 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: LONG. If you like to air it out, this is definately your course.

Not a lot of foot traffic.

Except for holes 12 and 13, there's no place to lose discs really.

Wind off the lake can do screwy things to your shots.

Reasonable balance of left/right shots.

Hole 6 (i think) has a neat mando mentioned in an earlier review (throwing between two trees not 30 feet from the teepad).

Usually plenty of eye candy exercising around the lake.
Cons: BORING! Drive, drive, maybe another drive, approach, putt. Rinse, repeat. The holes are all basically in front of you, flat, and far away. Makes for a very sore arm if you can't drive 300+.

Not enough benches or trash cans, but at least the grass has been mowed.

No course map.

No sign to send you to the first tee.

No scorecards at the first tee.

No help at the tees (a simple 8x11 map would be great) to show you where you're shooting. The group of 4 I was in ended up shooting at the wrong pin twice. (and we only played 12 holes before we ran out of light)

About half the baskets have had the hole number worn/weathered/ripped off. Makes identifying the right pin that much harder.

As big as this park is, there no reason whatsoever for the back 9 holes to be so close together (relative to the front 9). This adds yet another element of difficulty to finding correct pins.
Other Thoughts: If you have a GPS course map and a big arm, you'll have a blast.

UPDATE 10/20: Hole 6's mando has been removed for some reason, allowing players to throw big looping hyzers over the road/pedestrian path to the right of the fairway. Certainly not the safest plan and i've yet to hear why the tree was removed.

STILL no scorecards at hole 1.

8 of 10 people found this review helpful.

 Do you like par 4's?

1    10/15/2008   10/24/2008
Review By: jdawg24
Played: 91  Reviewed: 49  Exp: 15.9 Years
This review was updated on 3/11/2009
9 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: *Long course! par ~69, set in flat section of massive park
*Dull terrain - perfectly flat with sporadic big trees & grass everywhere
*Concrete pads, 3-4 pin positions
*nice park with tons of other features & scenic setting
Cons: *Weak signage. I was playing blind so this mattered. It's nice to label A, B & C positions...but they're useless without a diagram
*Around #10 it gets confusing - i got turned around for a minute & couldn't tell which basket I was playing to
*many pins not visible from pad; paths not at all obvious
*bad shots go unpunished - making par very/too easy
*only 2 holes under 300'; maybe 3 or 4 total par 3's
*repetitive holes - most were 550-700 -- which would be great if they were different shots...it was wraith, teebird or wraith, putt or short approach
Other Thoughts: I found this course to be somewhat boring after throwing the same shots over & over. At the same time it was very cool to see someone doing a par 69 course - not the typical DG course.

Definitely worth playing, but i'm gonna try all the other STL courses before returning.

Shot -4

9 of 9 people found this review helpful.

 Long holes and long grass

7/16/2008   7/22/2008
Review By: ferretdance03
Played: 67  Reviewed: 19  Exp: 8.9 Years
7 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: A big arm's course with quite a few old growth trees lining the fairway.
- There is no shortage of length at Creve. Short pins total 8724...
- A few challenging pin placements
- Excellent tee pads
Other Thoughts: - I was told by a local that the Parks aren't cutting the grass due to high gas prices, and it shows. Shin high everywhere.
- A little difficult to find your way around, the map is only slightly useful.
- Most holes are side by side, and I imagine in a tourney round you'd be waiting on people left and right
- Some holes seem to be long just for the sake of being long

If you like to throw air bombs, this is the course for you. If you don't, I'd suggest one of St. Louis' other courses.

7 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 Might as well be a driving range!

6/17/2008   7/1/2008
Review By: An-Hyzer Bushes
Played: 3  Reviewed: 3
8 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Extremely long course! Get out your long range and be prepared to throw it at least twice on every hole. The good thing is the holes are pretty much all straight ahead and flat, otherwise navigating through a 900 foot hole with rough terrain and trees in the way would make for a good par 6! Don't go if you don't have an arm, you will get frustrated quick! I'm giving it a 3.0 and not a 2.0 because I love to air it out!
Cons: Not much of a challenge, besides the fact that the holes are pretty much all over 500 feet. The grass seams to only be cut once a month, if you're lucky. Can barely see the hole you're shooting at, even though you know it's straight ahead. Just launch and hike!
Other Thoughts: Great view of Creve Coeur Lake! Excellent course to play during twilight. For comic relief there is a hole I think around 5 or 6 that is about 700 ft. but about 15 feet in front of the tee are two trees spaced about 15 feet apart that you must split before getting into the open. You can clearly see which one is hit the most, as all of the bark on the inside of the right tree has been chipped away from the ground all the way up about 20 feet on the trunk. Definitely a disc death trap!

8 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 A Great Arm Stretcher

6/26/2008   6/30/2008
Review By: CaptainKickAss
Played: 23  Reviewed: 10  Exp: 12.1 Years
8 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: If you like to throw long this is the course for you. This course, simply put, is really really long. Even at the shortest pin placements, this course will make you earn your pars, making you throw your arm off to attain the course's par of 69. That said, this course is still fairly forgiving for developing players. The front 9 is relatively wide open, and while it may take first timers a few more tosses to get the hole, even the most novice players should be able to enjoy this one without the fear of sacrificing any plastic to the disc golf gods. This course is also very dynamic. With three pin placements on each hole, no two visits to this course are ever the same.
Cons: The course is a tad difficult to navigate, and it is very easy to get lost or confused the first few times you play it. The course is also really flat, and has practically zero elevation change throughout.
Other Thoughts: There are a few other things about this course that could be considered either a pro or a con depending upon your perspective: 1) The course tends to be pretty windy, as a good breeze is almost always coming off the nearby lake. And with very few trees to block the wind, you really have to mind your shots. 2) The grass is not particularly well maintained, and can get very high. While this brings a new degree of challenge to an otherwise wide open course, it does make things a bit uncomfortable in the early morning and after a rain and can make it very difficult to find discs. 3) There is no water on the actual course.

Overall though this is a beautiful course, and one befitting of any level of disc golf player. Kudos to the designer for really making an inspired course from the land available!

8 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 A course brought back from the dead.

5+    7/5/2010   6/16/2007
Review By: Three Putt
Played: 135  Reviewed: 76  Exp: 19.3 Years
This review was updated on 2/17/2012
9 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course is very long, but the terrain is flat and the holes are mostly open. It is a great place to work on your long drives, as the course offers multiple routes to the hole and really does not punish an offline shot on most holes. Some key trees have been cut down on # 1 and # 6 that opened the hyzer route thrown over the road (saftey issue) but recently mandos have been installed to take the route over the road away. Also some OB areas have recently been installed by roping off some sections to help increase the challenge. The wind is usually blowing off the lake, creating an additional challenge. There are some very long concrete tee pads and benches to sit on at each hole. The teesigns are basic with just the distance, but the bolts are usually up to date with the current pin placements.
Cons: The course is not technically challenging. There are few obstacles that require you to use any variety of shots, and the terrain is flat. The result is that it plays much easier than its distance would suggest. That being said, it's looonnnggg. If you can't get a drive out there 350+ feet you are going to be in for a very long day.
The course is also is not well cared for. The parks department seems to have it on a "mow once every two years" rotation. It's a shame because when it is mowed it is a very pretty park.
The course is a great exposure for the sport as it is across the street from a very busy lake. Given that it is a good exposure point, the course should make the beginner-friendly red tees easier to find. They are there if you know where to look, but they are marked very poorly.
Other Thoughts: This was once a great course, but a major flood in 1993 killed most of the trees on the site. It sat for most of the 90's with only nine baskets in a state a disrepair. The course has had a renaissance of sorts in the last decade, as a new layout takes advantage of the distances you can get on a 40 acre site. The design is not as challenging as it was in 1990, but they have done a good job with the few trees that remain. There have been mandos and OB areas installed recently, so it appears that the folks who work on this course are still trying to improve it.

*UPDATE* It seems that budget cuts and politics will soon mean the end of this course. While it was never a great course after the '93 flood, it was a unique course for the area and will be missed.

9 of 9 people found this review helpful.

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