I get to drive a cart WHERE?!?!
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Well designed wooded holes
The two consecutive "Top of the World" throws
Cons: A few of the longer bolf course holes are kinda boring (4, 5, 18)
Tee pads might be a little short for you run up guys
Other Thoughts: I played here when the course first opened and played it again today. The fairways are maturing nicely. Still a lot of thorn bushes out there in the rough, but less than the first time I was here. The amenities at Villas Crossing are top notch and the young lady behind the counter is always a joy to talk to.
Hole 1 is an uphill throw across an open field to a basket hiding under some huge pine trees (the christmas tree kind). This is one of the holes where I think the elevation change is somewhat deceptive, meaning it doesn't seem like it's as much uphill as it is and you're probably going to throw short the first time or two.
Hole 2 has a couple of possible routes, straight which is pretty tight and right where you have more room to work but if you turn your disc over you can land 3 fairways away (saw it happen today, dude landed on 18's fairway!). The basket is in the woods on the left up a steep hill with a large fallen tree crossing the front of the green several feet off the ground complicating matters even more.
Hole 3 is a doorway shot to an open downhill bomb with a few trees creating another doorway right before the green. The basket is perched on the edge of a drop off that will make long throws really long.
4 is two long straight throws and then a basket under a pine tree.
5... some long straight throws and then a basket tucked in the woods off to the left.
Hole 6 is where you leave the ball golf course and head off into the woods.
Hole 7 is an uphill straight/slightly annie shot. There's a leaning tree and an odd shaped tree up by the basket that like to get in the way.
Hole 8 is a big long annie through the woods. Staying in the fairway makes this shot a lot easier, but local routes can often get down to the green.
9. How long can you keep a disc flying perfectly straight through tight woods? This is one of those holes where you can find yourself crisscrossing the fairway from the rough on the right to the rough on the left and back to the right and so on until your scorecard starts to smolder.
Hole 10. Ace run!
Hole 11 is similar to hole 8 (annie) but longer (Leopard for me vs. Comet on 8).
Hole 12 begins with a tunnel and ends up in an open field.
13's elevated basket is reachable on a straight line or a hyzer bomb with a clump of trees sitting out there between both shots.
Hole 14 is wide open for probably the first 150' where you then have to pick your lane into the woods. The basket is perched upon a long snakelike mound of medium sized rocks. Trees are everywhere but there's room in-between for your disc to fly whatever type of line you choose to take to the basket.
Hole 15 is a downhill bomb along a dirt road down to a hanging basket.
Holes 16 and 17 are what the courses I played out west called a, "Top of the World" throw. You're bombing down the side of a mountain. Totally open save for the OB ball golf green (and the trees and road long on 17 playing OB). We had 22mph winds blowing in our faces on the tee box with gusts much higher than that making for some crazy shots here today!!
18 is kindof a bummer ending to an amazing course. It's 3 or 4 long straight throws with the same disc to a basket next to a ball golf green. I get that it brings you back to the clubhouse, but with a cart the course doesn't necessarily have to finish right behind the building.
Final Thoughts: I really enjoy playing Villas Crossing. After a lifetime of ball golf I absolutely love getting to take the cart off the manicured fairways and head into the woods! For the most part the course is really well designed, there are only 3 holes that simply follow the ball golf course and just seem long and boring with a disc, so much so that they are what's stopping me from giving Villas a 4.5 rating.
The wooded holes offer up quite a variety of challenges. Along with the requisite forehands and backhands I found myself using more overhand approaches than I ever need on other courses. A good long roller is probably a great shot to be able to lay down on this course, with the high winds today though, even ones that seemed like they were rolling in the right direction mostly ended up doing some crazy things. I think it says a lot about a course when it forces you to change your game or work outside of your comfort zone (I almost never throw hammers or rollers). I can't think of another course except maybe DeLa or Whistler's Bend that has as much elevation change to deal with as Villas (not sure I'd want to play here without a cart).
I would definitely put Villas Crossing on the wishlist in case you are ever in the area. It's certainly worth driving a few hours to play.
Final Final thought: If I lived closer I would absolutely buy a membership here and play this course all the time.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: -Great elevation changes.
-Baskets are perfectly nice and in good shape.
-Teepads were level and plenty big.
Great golf lines and great mix of up/down/flat left/right long/short tight/open.
-Awesome views. Just Awesome.
-Bar on site with plenty of craft beers on tap.
-Very friendly staff.
-Rough had a pretty good balance of not wanting to go in it, but also not death by a thousand thorns. Some places were rougher than others.
-Lines were all quite fair, but plenty of shots you still had to earn the bird.
Cons: -Wish there were more basket placements and tees.
-Would be a hell of a hike without a cart but that only comes into play during the winter months. Which really if you play during the PA snowy winters, I guess you don't mind putting in the effort.
Other Thoughts: This course really blows my mind. It is such a fun experience that is hard to find anywhere else in the disc golf world. I talked to the staff for awhile at the bar and heard they had plans for a second 18 that would have glow in mind during the construction, which would really make this a destination.
With multi teepads and basket placements this course would be a 5.
I mean it has a very unique feel to it as soon as you get there. Sign in at the proshop, pick your cart keys up, buy some beer for the cart and off you go. You zigzag up the mountain for some mostly open bigger holes and then you hit the trees and zig zag up to the top and then wind your way back down the mountain. The elevation is used so well here. That's my favorite aspect of the course honestly. I love the use of the slope side to side that is used on some of the longer holes. I came here at the peak of fall and played the course bright and early, which I totally recommend to anyone coming here. The views of Pennsylvania at the peak of fall are just gorgeous and you get to lay drives out while enjoying that and cold beers await you. Hard to beat that. Definitely worth going out of your way to come here and enjoy a round. Can't wait to see how the destination grows and changes.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 1 Not
Great as a Home course
Pros: Great mix of open fairways and technical holes through the woods.
Great tees and some cool baskets.
Signs very well-marked.
Fun downhill holes at the end (esp. 17 <3)
Cons: A tough walk.
Course not open into the winter even before snowfall.
Other Thoughts: For once I can be proud to live in Tamaqua, PA. This is the closest course to me and of the 6 I've played, this one takes the cake.
0 of 1 people found this review helpful.
Look Out Below ... I mean, FORE!
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Golf carts - most everyone enjoys driving a golf cart, yes?
It is more a question of WHEN, not IF, a cart is going to flip over, and discs, golfers, beverages, and other assorted paraphernalia go tumbling down the hill.
The disc golf course is roughly evenly split between sharing the open ball golf fairways, and playing through the woods/hidden glade at the top of the ball golf course.
Disc golf holes 1-5 play along ball golf holes 3-6, so are fairly long and open, offering plenty of hucking opportunities, as they wind their way up the slope. Throwing from elevated tee-3 is probably the most fun shot found in this early group.
Holes 6-11 playing within the woods. Other than very long and very straight and very flat #9, these holes are shorter than the first five, offer a variety of shapes, with an emphasis on right turns, and have some minor elevation changes.
Hole 12-15 play into, along, out from a glade. Straight or left-turns from the tee will work on these middling-length holes. Elevated basket-13 presents an additional challenge,and some may suggest that the dense collections of trees mid/late fairway on 14-15 introduce a random element to the round.
Holes 16-17 play somewhat similarly. Open, as you're back on the ball golf course. Major drop in elevation, more so on #17. Baskets located a short distance away from ball golf greens, which are considered out-of-bounds. Basket-16 adds to the challenge as it is set on a ridge, with a steep drop behind it, and the extra "challenge" on #17 is to focus on the basket, and resist the temptation to toss your disc with all your might, to see if you can land on the house an additional ~500' in the background.
Hole-18 serves its purpose, aka brings you back to the clubhouse, but is an open huckfest.
Had fun playing with the Lancaster-area threesome I caught at hole-5, had fun playing solo, and the 2-to-1 ratio of discers-to-ballers seemed to be enjoying themselves, too. By all means, give the course a go if in the area.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Very Fun and Frustrating Course
Pros: Golf Carts!!!!!! Ok, Let's face it, how often as Disc Golfers do we get to drive around in a kart while playing. But in all honesty, the karts are very necessary because I could never imagine walking this course. Not having to carry a full bag on your back definitely helps with fatigue.
Ok, now to get serious. This course has a lot of variety. After playing two rounds, I don't recall once where I felt like a hole was getting redundant. Starting with a nice par 3 with the basket tucked into cove of trees, followed by a par 5 along a tree line and ball golf fairway, followed by a tee pad on top of a hill aiming through a cut out of trees throwing down hill across a ball golf fairway. And the hole course continues with this style of variety through out.
Great use of elevation on this course. There are ups and downs, but they do a pretty good job of making you not feel like you are throwing up an unacheivable hill. As gradually work your way up the hills, you get to enjoy the very fun drastic downhill. These are kind of fun as a player without a huge arm because you dread seeing a 500+' hole, but could possibly make par when you can actually throw a 400' tee shot or more. #17 is 432' and I took an extra tee shot to throw a putter and landed maybe 50' short. Fun feeling. This is the reason the carts are such a plus.
Scenery is also great. The course has some very nice views including #16 & #17 after coming out of the woods. Beautiful to overlook the country side from the side of a mountain, Right? PLus the course, being originally for ball golf, is extremely well maintained.
Cons: As someone who hasn't developed a great long game yet, there are some real bomber holes here. Now maybe that isn't a con for everyone, but it is for me. Tee off, pick up disc and throw it again, pick it up throw it again. Ok, I'm on my 4th shot, now maybe I have to think about what I'm doing. Especially since the longest ones are usually utilizing the ball golf fairways, so its open shots and just hucking.
Also I think some of the pars are very forgiving. They do have to par layouts, one for pro and one for AM, but still forgiving. For instance #15 AM is a par 5 at only 439' with a decent downhill. There is a pretty tight lane for just over half the hole, but even I threw a 4 my first round, and I was way in the trees on my tee shot.
Other Thoughts: This is a really good course and a course I get the impression will eventually be more about disc golf than ball golf. The staff at the clubhouse are super friendly. Definitely worth the hour and 15 minute drive for me to go check it out. I heard they are considering putting in another 18 holes on another part of the property... yes, please!!! This course should definitely be on and golfers agenda in this area.
Fun Retreat to the Villas
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Pros: 18 concrete tees and single Discatcher basket positions. Nice tee signs and navigation is a breeze. I flew right through the course with the cart. This course has some huge elevation changes and scenic mountain views! Add in the golf cart, club house, beer, food, and you will have a blast playing here. The fairways were beautifully maintained....like a ball golf course.
This is not your typical disc golf course on a ball golf course, half the course overlays some the ball course and the other half plays through the woods on it's own separate parcel of land. This setup works very well to reduce playing conflict between disc and ball golf, as well as providing more wooded holes than your typical disc golf on ball golf course. The course transitions well with a variety of shots and distances from hole to hole. There's lots of interesting and unique holes here from a couple ace runs to a few long par 4's and a couple monster downhill bombers.
Cons: Much of these are not really cons, but perhaps beware. Only one loop back to the parking lot/club house, although this is not a big deal if you have a cart. If you hike the course without a cart, good luck. There's a decent chance to lose a disc or few if you struggle to control your plastic and there's some poison ivy in the rough. Also beware of flying golf balls. On hole 2 my approach shot to the green was on such a steep slope that when I pivoted I ended up falling onto my shoulder, this happened twice here. There were a few times I was concerned about rolling the cart. Hole 8 and 11 felt like deja vu, short hard right turning tunnel holes. I got harassed by some hornets around the basket of hole 15. I was hoping for a little wider fairway on 15 to be able to reach the basket from the tee. I noticed lots of people searching for discs behind basket 3, I believe they were playing that hole. Then on hole 16 I over flew the basket and landed behind basket 3 and was searching with the rest of the party, luckily I didn't hit anyone.
Hole 17 can be easily over shot and land on the road or onto the ball golf green of another hole which I did. The owner, George, nice guy, was driving by in his car and noticed my Comet on the green across the street, he picked it up and I yelled to him that was my disc and he tossed back and we chatted a little bit. He said I threw the second longest shot(about 750') he's seen, the furthest landed on the neighbors roof top. He said I either have a canon arm or a significant tailwind, actually I threw into a headwind.
I was charged the ball golf fee and then shown the tee 1 for the ball golf course, even after I said I was playing disc golf. I then teed off on hole 1 of the ball golf course a bit confused and searching for a basket that doesn't exist. Hole 1 of the disc golf course starts by hole 3 of the ball golf course. It looked to me like some longer or alternate tees and basket positions could be put in for more variety and challenge.
Other Thoughts: Overall Villas Crossing is one of the most fun disc golf experiences I've had. The course design is more geared to intermediate to advanced level, although most open level players will find a good enough challenge and a lot of fun. I'd highly recommend this course to any non-rank beginner looking for a fantastic day of disc golf.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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Pros: $15 for two rounds with a cart, a clubhouse with beer and snacks, golf carts, merchandise for sale, friendly staff, did I mention golf carts?
This place is massive. Huge fairways that intersect with ball golf, fun wooded holes. You feel so much cooler than the ball golfers just for the fact that you can disappear into the woods with your cart.
Great course for people with big arms. Last hole is over 800ft.
Hole 17 is absolutely breathtaking, and a blast to tee off from. Just don't land on the green (especially if there are golfers playing). The cart ride down to the basket is even entertaining down a winding hill (I'll shut up about the carts now).
Cons: The thorn bushes off the fairway on some holes are pretty thick. Hoping this was addressed since last season.
Use a brightly colored disc on the last hole, can be easy for discs to get lost in the brush if you have a huge throw that goes off course.
Other Thoughts: Easily the best in the area. Worth the money.
1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
Elevation, Elevation, Elevation!
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Pros: There are few flat shots on a beautiful course that plays up and over a classic Pennylvania hilltop moutain - we have mounds in PA, not peaks.
This is a well-thought out course that demands distance, distance with control, mid and putter work (straight shots if you got it), RHFH if you got it, and overhand if you need it.
Pay your small fee and chat with the friendly staff, rent a cart! or walk if you want the experience - I walked and I believe I'll use a cart from now on, as my legs got tired and affected my tee shots. If you want your round to be about the hike as well as the golf, then walk.
Holes 1 - 5 take you across and up, with long fairways (500', 600', 700' +).
#1 seems innocuous enough, a 289' shot into a basket under a large stand of pine trees. Until you stand on the tee and it's more uphill than it looks form the road, with a headwind as well.
#2 is a 577' rhbh hyzer from out between trees with a downhill sloping fairway that wants your disc to roll right. The pin is uphill, well-protected in trees with a horizontal downed tree in front.
#3 is a downhill shot that is trouble if you miss long or right. Calm day in the parking lot all of sudden there's all this wind up here.
#4 is 604' out into a fairway, with the pin tucked away in a stand of trees, with a line of immense trees running straight in the way from tee to pin.
#5 is downhill through another fairway ending with a sharp left into the woods with very thin lines to the basket.
Holes 6 - 15 play through a wooded section, again with elevation playing a huge part of shot selection and missed pars. I won't describe them in detail, but there are varied uphill, downhill, and along the hill shots, through tight lanes, and on some holes, unforgiving rough. These holes play very differently from each other and are not repetitive at all. There are a few that favor LHFH or excellent annhyzer work, but trees have a way of making fools of us all. There a some short shots (200', 204', 257') to break up and even out the distance of the earlier holes. Protected pins, pins on hillsides that flip up your softest putter, elevated pins on crumbling dirt piles (be careful) and on the 439' downhill #15, with a fairway that narrows as it goes down, and a headwind!? wooshing up the hill in your face, a hanging basket to welcome you back out into the open.
#16 takes you back out to the open fairways of the golf course, with a downhill 500' par 3/4 with an OB golf green and a hill behind that will rollout your rollouts.
#17 was perhaps my favorite, a 432' downhill at basket behind a green, with the green playing OB.
#18 is 802' and back home across the hillside, just in case you were a little tired from the first 17.
Cons: * Patience will be needed when the both golf courses are in use. I had the mountain to myself the day I was there, but I would certainly give the ball golfers right of way when in use.
* Tees pads are about 6', I know some folks will want longer walk-ups.
Other Thoughts: The Am/Pro Par scoring work very well - the Am pars were exceedingly fair; if you can throw consistently over 300' and have your other shots in line, you should probably use the Pro par.
Please go play this course, keep it clean, play nice with ball golfers. This is worth driving to, stay and play 2 rounds, and add it to your Eastern PA list.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
Bring all your discs!
Pros: Alot of variety. Some very long holes. Some holes through the woods and some holes are more open. You get to take a golf cart.
Has a pro shop with food and drink and bathrooms.
Cons: Some of the holes are shared with the ball golfers. Some of the greens are close to the baskets and the greens are OB. Some of the brush/woods is pretty thick and has thorns.
Other Thoughts: Very fun place to play. The long holes will favor the folks who can chuck it far. You get to use your long range discs that you don't need on some other courses.
We went later in the day so all the ball golfers were off the course but talking to some guys who had just finished playing disc golf they said they had to wait a few times for the ball golfers.
The hill through the woods on hole 7 was pretty steep and almost seemed a bit unsafe. Would probably not really want to walk this course.
You have to pay to play but I felt it was worth it. I will go back again.
The greens being OB on some of the holes seems a bit unfair on some of the holes like 17 where you throw down the hill and there is a very small landing area below right next to the green. You could end up like 20 feet from the basket but on the green and be OB.
Hole 17 is awesome though.
When ball golf meets disc golf
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: 18 holes with nice, new DIScatcher baskets. Concrete tees on every hole. Good mix of lefty/righty, open/wooden, and uphill/downhill holes. Some shorter par threes mix in with long pro par fours and even a five for good measure. Course doesn't interfere too much with the ball golf. Carts available in-season, which will shorten the walk from hole to hole, shot to shot.
Cons: Carts not available in winter. Those physically out of shape will have a grind on their hands on this course. While most of the tee boxes are long enough, some are shorter. The golf greens are OB on the last three holes, which is understandable if someone was playing the ball golf course(but why would they waste their time).
Other Thoughts: While I was exhausted by the walking and tested by my inability to consistently put good shots together, and compounded by a lost disc, I still found Villas to be an excellent disc golf course. It is well designed (Dunkle and company doing it yet again), makes good use of the land, and tries not to interfere a lot with the ball golf course on site. The end result, disc golf always wins, and you should make this course a stop. It is only an hour from Allentown and its plethora of good disc golf courses.
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