Temperance, MI
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 Local Advantage

5+    1/3/2010   1/16/2010
Review By: ChrisWoj
Played: 107  Reviewed: 26  Exp: 9.1 Years
7 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Vienna Park is really two completely different courses. The long tees and the short tees are very different. Not only do they differ in distance, but they often differ in type of shot required completely. A clear long tee forehand could be a backhand and nothing else from the shorts.

Overall - this course has just as many forehand holes as backhand holes, for those that are equally strong in both. There are just as many power hyzers as short anhyzers and just as many bomber drives as putter shots. There are a few holes where a roller is the smartest play. There are multiple pin placements on many holes.

Additionally the course has a clear escalation of difficulty as you go through the round - if you start at hole 1. Holes 1-6 are clearly the easiest holes on the course. 7-12 ramp it up a little. 13-18 is clearly the roughest stretch.

The wooded and open holes are varied nicely, as well. There is no definite sequence of holes that is a long stretch of wooded holes. 1-4 is the closest to a stretch of purely open holes. There are also a few holes where a bordering creek comes into play - holes 2 through 4.
Cons: The biggest problem with Vienna Park is the complete lack of elevation. Holes 11 and 13 have slightly elevated greens, on small inclines. Otherwise elevation is all but nonexistant on the course. This makes the greens very easy, there is little risk to the putts. Only hole 3 truly has a risky putt, with a creek behind the basket if you happen to come in to the right of the placement, and the basket is in its placement tight to the creek (a lot of 'ifs').

Additionally - from the long tees Vienna Park is a very local friendly course. Holes 5 and 6 require hitting a gap at just the right point as your disc fades in or turns in. Holes 5, 6, 7, 9, 17 (long pin position), and 18 all require you to walk more than halfway up the fairway to see the pin.
Other Thoughts: Vienna Park is a very nice course held back by the fact that a lot of the pin placements are hidden, and the fact that there is no elevation. All told it isn't even using the most prime property in the park either.

However that is going to change soon - current plans involve expanding the course to 24 holes by the end of 2010 with six new holes in the deep woods to the left of hole 16. Three of the holes are already carved with minimal clearing left to do. Three more are planned, and work will begin in the late spring of 2010. Funding to be approved, with any luck, during the summer of 2010.

7 of 7 people found this review helpful.

 Even Buckeyes will like this MI course:)

2-4    6/27/2009   9/25/2009
Review By: bthoma1
Played: 36  Reviewed: 16  Exp: 6.9 Years
This review was updated on 8/28/2010
0 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Very nice course with great mix of shots.
There are a few holes that shoot off to the right and some that shoot off to the left.
a few wooded holes, and the tiny bit of elevation is used well.
course punishes you for errand shots.
Placement is everything
Cons: crappy tee signs, they are just labeled on the ground.
needs better direction from hole to hole.
no bathrooms that I remember
Other Thoughts: Overall I liked this course, I live in Oregon now but anytime I will be back in the area I will play this course.
There are open holes and wooded holes a like, and the wooded ones challenge your
accuracy.
There is a school area right by the beginning of the course. Which doesn't effect much, but kids tend to walk "through" the first holes, well atleast in my experience
A few holes require delicate landings

0 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 like the sausage

2-4    8/2/2009   8/2/2009
Review By: bygwyllay
Played: 78  Reviewed: 75  Exp: 7 Years
This review was updated on 6/9/2011
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: A very nice course. Great mix of open shots and wooded fairways. Some very challenging approach shots make sure you take nothing for granted. Each concrete tee has the sign in the ground next to it stating the hole number and distance. Very clean and well maintained. The last two holes are phenomenal drives that turn sharply through a holes in the brush, with their pins nestled under trees.
Cons: Could've used some "next tee --->" signs. A few times you backtrack from where you've been to get to the next hole. Mosquitoes were out but very tolerable. Bug spray mildly recommended.
Other Thoughts: Another great course in Monroe county, the other being Parmelee. Nice to make a day out of these two. I heard there are many events and tournaments held at Vienna, so best to check out and see what's going on before heading down. Enjoy!

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 

2-4    10/31/2009   3/29/2009
Review By: Ajnejedi
Played: 10  Reviewed: 3  Exp: 7.1 Years
This review was updated on 11/2/2009
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: A well laid out course with a good mix between technical and open shots. There's something for everyone here.
Played it on a Sunday morning and there was no one else on the course.
Great trees and brush, and a great water hazard on the front nine.
Cons: A bit muddy (up to my ankles in water and muck - although that does give the course a level of personality.
A little difficult to find the first hole, especially considering that the driveway into the park was gated off and we had to park on the road and wander through the course to find it.
Other Thoughts: Will play this course every time I'm in the area to visit my brother.
This is the best course I have played in my two years of amateur disc golfing.
Learned how to use a sidearm throw on this course and it is by far the best throw I have in my arsenal.

Finally got back to play on Halloween. Course was dry and the pin placement was changed up a bit. Still highly recommend this course to anyone in the area.

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Top Park in Toledo

5+    11/15/2008   3/15/2009
Review By: o01shadow
Played: 42  Reviewed: 8  Exp: 6 Years
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This course can be very challenging, for many holes are in a wooded strip and require good handling.

There are two sets of concrete tees on every hole, and multiple pin placements on most of them.

The course layout is great, combining several technical holes with a few long and open ones.

The park is beautiful, especially in the early fall.

The park is relatively easy to follow, for there are painted markers on pins to point to the next tee. Caution though, some may pointing the wrong way due to pin movement.

The locals are great, and will willingly help you out if you ask.
Cons: The course may be too frustrating for beginning players. During the summer and fall, it is painful to retrieve lost discs in the thick underbrush.

Bugs will be a problem if you do not bring bugspray in the spring and fall.

Also, it is the main course for the Toledo area, so if may be crowded during active seasons or on pretty days.
Other Thoughts: This probably takes the cake for my favorite course all around. There is a great diversity in hole design and required skill, and the course changes due to multiple pin placements every few weeks.
Apart from the oppressive flat land that is everywhere in NW Ohio and SE Michigan, this is a strong and dynamic course, which I highly recommend.

4 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 Top Toledo Area Course

5+    12/16/2008   3/10/2009
Review By: elahti
Played: 26  Reviewed: 6  Exp: 5.9 Years
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: A great course with a lot of variety. Many wooded holes for accuracy and a few holes for the long bombs. Two, sometimes three different sets of tee pads that offer a completely different shot instead of just making the hole longer. Also, every few months, the pin placement also changes. Well kept and easy to follow due to painted basket markers. Not very busy, except for the occasional tournament. Also, there are several other recreational activities on site: grills, playgrounds, soccer fields, etc.
Cons: Bugs can be annoying in the summer time, so bring your spray. Discs can be easy to lose in the sometimes dense foliage (the locals are great about returning lost discs though if they find them). If you are looking for terrain change, this course isn't for you.
Other Thoughts: One of my favorite courses by far! The diversity of shots needed for the course is excellent and, with the changing pin placements, rarely can played the same way twice. If you are having trouble with the woods, Parmalee Park is not too far off, which can provide some great practice for tight woods.

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 The Class of Toledo

5+    10/26/2008   11/26/2008
Review By: OneBallWonder
Played: 45  Reviewed: 16  Exp: 15.9 Years
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Vienna Park is a fantastic place to play. Amazing variations from hole to hole. A few bombs to challenge distance, while narrow wooded holes test accuracy and patience.

Short and Long tees provide a different challenge. Most long tee pads provide a completely different shot, rather than just moving back 25 feet.

Easy to follow and played constantly. If you're having trouble following, ask a local.

Blue and Red painted prongs on baskets point out directions to next tees.
Cons: On holes with multiple pin placements, the blue and red prongs are only correct some of the time. When moved to a different sleeve, they can be pointing in the complete opposite direction. This can cause confusion for first-time players. If you haven't played here before, you can print out a layout of both long and short tees at www.tadga.com

5 of 5 people found this review helpful.

 

5+    11/16/2008   11/21/2008
Review By: hoyle7780
Played: 14  Reviewed: 14  Exp: 22.2 Years
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Has two sets of tee's for every hole

Several holes have multiple pin locations, with a few having 3, wich get moved about every 2-4 weeks.

Easy to follow layout, all baskets have a painted bar wich points to the next tee

Fairly challenging from either set of tee's

Great group of locals who will help you, or usually let you join in a round.




Cons: Heavy use in the spring/summer months, can create backups

Can be buggy in the summer, bring deet

Other Thoughts: Most locals park by hole # 13 shelterhouse

Sunday Noon Doubles typically prodouces large ace pool And decent player turnout

Other park ameneties include, Several shelterhouses, grills, playground for kids, mini rock climbing wall, and swingsets, 2 ball diamonds & soccerfields.


3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 

1    11/12/2008   11/12/2008
Review By: NEWBY1151
Played: 66  Reviewed: 39  Exp: 6.8 Years
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: I played this course once and had a great time definitely will play again,great variety of open and wooded holes,easy to navigate with nice signs,cement tee pads,nice park with picnic areas,some of the open holes are pretty easy just a few mature trees to avoid but overall a nice challenge,good layout and use of area you could start on several different holes to avoid backups #18 ends right at #1,
Cons: Course is almost completely flat other than that I can't think of any cons
Other Thoughts: I was told they have leagues on sundays with a pretty big group of regulars,

2 of 3 people found this review helpful.

  Vienna Park

5+    10/1/2008   10/1/2008
Review By: TROUTEN25
Played: 12  Reviewed: 1  Exp: 7.7 Years
0 Helpful / 7 Not
Pros: Very nice layout, course seems to flow throughout the park. Course easy to follow, and holes are clearly marked. Normal cement pads throughout. Plays both open and in woods.

0 of 7 people found this review helpful.

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