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2-4    8/9/2014   8/13/2014
Review By: Derek B
Played: 100  Reviewed: 21  Exp: 12.4 Years
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: 1) concrete pads
2) short and long tees
3) open and wooded holes
4) good design - left, right, and straight shots
5) highlight hole: 9
Cons: 1) a few holes are way open and boring
2) huge pile of logs interferes with holes 4 and 11
3) lack of real elevation changes
4) course navigation
4) the road leading to the course is in extremely bad shape, although I won't knock the course rating for it
Other Thoughts: Played this course from the shorts last year 1 time and then came back for the Michigan Ohio Border Shootout this year and played from the longs.

This course is challenging enough and has good design for the most part. The course is mostly open with mature trees, although a few holes have some tight wooded shots. A creek comes into play for 3 holes, although it was extremely low when I played it.

Although the course has a well thought out design and utilizes the land appropriately, it does lack in several areas. First, there are a few holes that have absolutely no character at all....hole 1, for example. Second, there's a huge pile of logs that interferes with holes 4 and 11. A guy in the group in front of us actually lost his disc in the log pile (yes it's that big) and had to re-tee with penalty. Third, the course is generally flat. Fourth, the navigation can be difficult, even with colored spokes on the baskets because of the alt. positions that are sometimes used. Bring a course map.

All in all, this was an enjoyable and challenging course and I will be back to play it again someday...probably from the longs again. It's worth a travel if you've never played it.

2 of 2 people found this review helpful.

Mix Open & Woods

5+    8/3/2014   8/3/2014
Review By: Caveman1829
Played: 5  Reviewed: 5  Exp: 4.2 Years
Pros: *Ametaur and Pro tees to give varying distance shots, all are cement boxes
*Mix of Open holes, then more challenging Wooded holes
*Nice paths in the woods to walk/stroller
*Well maintained: brush cleared, pins re positioned
*Doesn't cross over any walking paths where pedestrians could be in the way
Cons: *In the woods the flow from hole to hole can be confusing first time, though they are marked with hole number
*Can get busy on weekends
*Last few holes have some thick meadows that make losing a disk a risk
Other Thoughts: *Overall pretty flat

Shaken, not stirred

1    3/10/2014   3/10/2014
Review By: apdrvya
Played: 245  Reviewed: 238  Exp: 4.5 Years
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros:
Aesthetic- plays around the perimeter and through some woods in a large multi-use park. Course comes in close proximity to some of the pavillions at times.

Teepads- amazing, and shoveled/salted! Made for a truly enjoyable round.

Baskets- all in really good shape. painted tines attempt to help you.

Variety- plenty of variety here. there are bombers, shorties through tight woods, lefts, rights. Also, multiple tees give you unique (or just longer) views of each tee. Also, there are multiple basket sleeves in the ground so pin position could be easily changed.

upkeep/maintenance- the paths through the woods with the 4x4's and wood chips are a fantastic touch. I'm assuming this area holds water really well and these will help to keep your toes drier.

Map- the map does a good job helping to route. it's amazingly difficult to nav this course at times.
Cons:
Teesigns- Yep, there are teesigns, BUT, they are flush with the ground and only include hole number and distance. I will say that the teesign lists the distance to the pin, if there are multiple, it lists both positions as "a" and "b."

Routing/nav- hard here. there are some definite flow issues with this course. most notably on the woods holes. 8-9 is especially hard.

places to sit- I wish there were more places to sit for a minute on this course. Just a pet peeve more than anything
Other Thoughts:
Good course sure. add some stand up signs and it'll be even better...

there was some construction equipement and stumps on #5. these were a pain to throw around.

1 of 1 people found this review helpful.


2-4    10/9/2012   11/6/2012
Review By: AdamE
Played: 214  Reviewed: 143  Exp: 11.1 Years
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Vienna Park has two sets of concrete tees and a small concrete square on the ground next to it that indicates the hole number and distance. The lettering is color coded to correspond to the short tees in red and the long tees in blue. On the bottom catching part of the basket, one spoke has been painted red and one blue to point you in the direction of those pads on the next hole. There is a good variety of hole distances. The two sets of tees do a great job catering to a wide variety of players and the long tee almost always changes the shot and/or adds to the difficult of the hole. Some of the holes have multiple pin placements.

There is a great variety of wooded, semi wooded and open-ish holes. The wooded holes have tight but fair fairways forcing you to hit your line for a birdie, or miss it and scramble to recover for par. While the park is mostly flat, the few elevation changes here are incorporated into the course well to make some cool holes. There's a good shot variety here with a number of holes forcing RHBH turnover shots and a couple more have multiple routes to the basket.

The course fits in the park well and stays away from the other park activities.
Cons: This is a tough course to navigate if you aren't familiar with it. There are two sets of tees per hole, but you often have to stop and look for them if you don't know the course well. The painted spokes on the basket are a good way to point you in the right direction... until you come to a basket that is in an alternate sleeve. Then it's pointing you in the completely wrong direction.

In a couple places like 7 to 8 and 10 to 11 the course doesn't have a very good flow forcing a convoluted and long walk past other, closer tees.

Some of the holes in the wooded area of the course are rather close to each other.

Actual tee signs with hole diagrams would be useful when trying to find the basket on some holes. It would be especially helpful on hole 4 where you can see a basket straight ahead but that's actually 11's basket.

There's a large pile of debris rather close to and left of hole 11's basket. It is an eyesore and would be tough to traverse if your disc happens to land there which it easily could.

Most of my con's are about navigation so once you've played the course a few times this becomes a non-issue.
Other Thoughts: Overall I found this to be a very fun course. This is a great place for players of all skill levels. Less experienced players will like the short pads and could have little problem with lost discs but it didn't seem terribly thick on the handful of holes where it is present. More advanced players will like the ample challenge the long pads present.

2 of 2 people found this review helpful.

 Fun Mix of Shots

5+    10/4/2011   11/2/2011
Review By: hooked312
Played: 34  Reviewed: 17  Exp: 6.5 Years
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - Well maintained park with not a ton of traffic or pedestrians.
- Two sets of tee pads. If the shorts get too easy for you the longs are a very nice challenge.
- Although there is a lack of elevation, the use of the woods and the little hill creates a nice mix of holes.
- Some of the holes have two places for the baskets, so this provides for a unique game when they are changed every so often.
Cons: - There is a lack of signage that could be confusing your first couple times out. And I haven't spotted a course map on site.
- Only one of the times I have played there was random port-o-potty, other than that No Restrooms.
- Often gets muddy in the woods. It just seems like the water collects there.
Other Thoughts: Overall I think Vienna is the most challenging course in the Greater Toledo area. It provides that mix of holes that the other two courses in the area are lacking. It is quite the hidden gem as I have never had to deal with long waits or big groups.
If you are looking for the most diverse course in the area come to Vienna and you won't be disappointed. Just bring your bug spray if its spring or summer!

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 All Skill Levels Welcome

1    5/30/2011   6/29/2011
Review By: roadtripstuff
Played: 111  Reviewed: 56  Exp: 11.7 Years
8 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros:
Ample Parking
Multiple Tee Pads on Most Holes
Baskets Are In Good Shape
Multiple Pin Placements
Both Wooded and Open Holes
Distances and Shot Types Vary
All Skills Levels Can Play
Restrooms (Porta-Jons) On-Site
Picnic Areas/Pavillions, Playgrounds, Grills, and Other Amenities On-Site
Friendly and Helpful Locals
Painted Spokes on Basket Point to Next Tee Pad
Amazing Pin Placements
Cons:
Can Be Hard To Find First Tee Pad
Can Be Difficult to Navigate
Prone to Flooding
In the Spring/Early Summer There Are Tons of Mosquitoes
Very Little Elevation Changes (Not A Lot They Could Do)
Kind Of Out of the Way/Hard to Get to
Other Thoughts:
Vienna Park DGC is a well-thoughtout 18-hole course located in Temperance, Michigan. The course plays throuhgout a small community park that has baseball fields, picnic areas, and playgrounds, but does well to play away from these areas with other park users rarely getting in the way.

To reach the park from I-75 use exit 5 (Erie Road) and head west for 2.5 miles. Make a left on Telegraph Road for 1 mile and make a right onto East Temperance Road, just past the Erie Aerodome airport. Stay on Temperance Road for about 1.2 miles and make a right onto Half Mile Road. Half Mile Road will dead into West Vienna Road, make a left and the park entrance will be on your right.

Once you are in the park continue past the playground and park all the way in the back of the parking lot, straight ahead from the entrance. Once you are at the back of the lot you should see a picnic shelter/pavilion, the short tee is just on the other side of the shelter and the long tee will be up in the woods behind/to the left of the short tee pad. I highly suggest printing the course map for this course. Not only is the first tee pad hard to find, spotting the tee pads all the way through the course can be difficult since the tee signs/markers are small concrete slabs that are in the ground next to the tee pads rather than traditional upright/pole style tee signs.

While the course may be difficult to navigate, it actually flows really well. From hole to hole you never feel like you are throwing the same hole twice. Another great thing about the layout and flow of the course is the way the designers start you out in the open and ease you into the wooded holes before leading you back out into the open. Its a nice touch and makes the overall variety seem a lot greater.

One of the biggest pros of this course is the multiple ways you can play the course. Not only are there two tee pads on most holes, they also have two pin positions on most holes. I can't really say how often the pin positions are changed, but if its often it could really give this course a new look and a fresh feel each time you play it.

Overall Vienna Park is a pretty nice course. It offers a lot of variety and great pin placements. I would definitely recommend this course to anyone traveling up I-75 or US-23 and has time to stop by to give this course a chance, however I wouldn't go out of my way to play here. One thing to keep in mind if you are going to stop by is that the mosquito population is one of the worst I have seen. Be sure to bring bugspray or you will definitely regret it and I wouldn't be surprised if you actually gave up on the round once you get to the wooded holes.

8 of 9 people found this review helpful.

 Challenging Course

2-4    10/18/2010   3/28/2011
Review By: Nemer06
Played: 8  Reviewed: 6  Exp: 5.4 Years
0 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: DISTANCE SHOTS, Huge course it is a very large park. some shots with heavy woods
Cons: BUGS are really bad. If your not a seasoned disc golf player this course will be pretty difficult. Also no course map and losing discs here wont be hard.
Other Thoughts: Beautiful course.

0 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 

5+    11/10/2010   11/19/2010
Review By: andrewkh
Played: 54  Reviewed: 28  Exp: 7.3 Years
0 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: -good tee pads and baskets
-multiple tees and basket placements
-pretty easy to navigate but can be a little tricky
-good mix of distances
-good mix of open and wooded holes
-well maintained
Cons: -bugs are horrible in the summer
-thick on wooded holes can be very thick
-pretty flat
Other Thoughts: very fun course with lots of different shots and distances. this course compliments the ottawa hills and parmilee courses well. if you are in the toledo area i highly recommend checking out this course

0 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 Nice Loops

1    11/11/2010   11/11/2010
Review By: AKormendi
Played: 65  Reviewed: 27  Exp: 16.2 Years
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - Good flow, easy to play partial sections of the course if you've got extra time after your round.
- Good variety in shots, some open fairways, some tight, varying distances. Hyzers and anhyzers, and even a few the probably would be best tackled with tomohawks and thumbers.
- It's even got a little bit of a water hazard, on the left at hole 3.
-Good use of land. All the elevation in the course (1 small hill and 1 hummocky area) is used to its fullest extent. The trees and brush give the course a lot of extra shape.
-Spraypainted spokes on the baskets to help you find the next tee.
Cons: - It's pretty flat.
- Holes 16 and 17 appear to have been modified at some point, as the directions to the tees and locations of the baskets are not as well marked as elsewhere.
-No parking at this time of year, had to park on the side of the road and use a foot traffic only gate. Started my round on hole 8, since number one was way on the other side of the park. Luckily the course loops well.
Other Thoughts: I really enjoyed this course, but didn't find it quite as scenic as nearby Parmalee. Luckily it made up for it with more challenge and variety.
I think it was deer hunting season. Lots of gunshots in the background. I was a little worried about taking some buckshot on a woods hole, but honestly, that's probably pretty silly.
This course and Parmalee make this area an excellent daytrip destination, and I will certainly venture this way again. Hopefully I will be able to hit nearby Ottawa Park as well, next time.

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Toledo's best is in Michgan!

1    8/15/2010   8/17/2010
Review By: BogeyNoMore
Played: 171  Reviewed: 136  Exp: 10.4 Years
This review was updated on 6/7/2012
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Well conceived holes offering lots of variety and good disc play, featuring an decent mix of hole lengths and types:
- Open fairways that don't require any particular line or type of throw.
- Moderate to densely wooded fairways that make you commit to one of a few possible lines.
- Challenging tunnel shots with trees and brush that pretty much give only one feasible line and make you execute it with good control.

Nice size, dual concrete tees. Along with distance, Pro tees require more control to hit tighter windows than Am tees. Additionally, switching tees changes your drive from hyzer to annie (or vice-versa) on several holes.

I like the way the first few holes ease you in before the course kicks things up a notch. Vienna gets more interesting the further you get into it.

Interesting and unique pin placements on several holes make great use of guard trees, baskets tucked away in pockets off of fairways, and blind holes that aren't stupid.

Park is flat, but course makes good use of changes in elevation where possible.

Nice clean, quiet park - not overrun like some courses.
Cons: Tricky to navigate in spots (particularly in the middle holes), and while the holes themselves are well designed, the course doesn't always flow to well from basket to tee - course map was a huge help. Tee signs/posts would really help things out in this respect. I like the idea of painting basket spokes (red for shorts, blue for longs) as a navigational aid, but a few aren't pointing the right way, which only adds to confusion. Pretty sure they moved some baskets, but as a first timer here, was following the spokes to ... where?

Fence along the left side of holes 1 & 2 (AM) and hole 5 (Pro) run parallel to what I think is private property - not a fan of hopping fences onto someone else's property to retrieve runaway discs.

More elevation changes would be nice, (but I didn't ding the ratings for this - they made the most of what they have).
Other Thoughts: Have to say this is a gem of a coure in it's own right and I really enjoyed playing here, Would love to play another round after new holes are added (see ChrisWoj's Other Thoughts, below).

I mostly played longs while my son played the shorts, so I was able to get a bit of a feel for how very differently your approach to the hole will be depending on the tee you select. Best course in the area, and well worth a couple of hours if you are driving by on I-75 and have the time.

Do yourself a favor - print the map!

4 of 4 people found this review helpful.

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