I Don't Believe The Neighbors Are Overly Fond Of Disc Golfers!
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course at Peccole Ranch plays through a 150' wide drainage, walking green belt area which is bordered by people's backyard fences on both sides. This area has a walking path down the middle, is beautifully landscaped with desert plants and mature trees and slopes down to the middle in a "V". All of these factor into the course's uniqueness and challenge.
The course features old school style fiberglass tee signs giving you both Pro and Am pars and distances, hole # and the next tee. There is one of the generic course rules signs that designers tend to waste their $ on. The tee pads are nice sized concrete. I'm not too overly concerned if they're slippery when wet as it only rains in Las Vegas every other year or so. The baskets are Mach III with faded red numbers on top.
The course plays 8 holes out, then 9-12 back. Then cross through the tunnel to play 13 & 14. Then 15 is up to the right in another little section. Then you cross the street to play 16-18 in still another little, more desert type section of the housing development.
The challenge of the course lies in it's narrowness, it's always present trees, the abundance of landscaping and plants to play around and then, the frustration of having to wait for the walkers and dog walkers who seem to revel in taking their own sweet time and showing me that this was their park and I was an intruder there.
I found myself enjoying the challenge of trying to roll between the landscaping, both as a way to avoid possibly tossing a disc over one of the neighbor's fence and also just looking for interesting routes to take.
Cons: At 7 am, I encountered quite a few walkers, both with and without dogs, and found each and every one of them to be somewhere between unfriendly to fairly hostile. I tried to make a game out of it by greeting each one with a cheery "Good Morning, How you doing this morning?" And what I received back was a series of icy stares, cold mumbles or non-responses. I have a sneaking suspicion that these folks have probably dealt with enough obnoxious disc golfing teenagers that they've decided that they hate all disc golfers and that we don't belong there.
Other Thoughts: I also had a difficult time figuring out the navigation of the course after # 14. First, I started to walk through the set of three tunnels that cross under the busy street and almost got attacked by some homeless guy's dog (It was dark in the tunnel and the homeless guy was camped out in the tunnel). Took me awhile to figure out where # 15 and then 16-18 were located.
If I played this course on a regular basis, I just might have a difficult time always putting on a pleasant face with these crotchety old dog walking neighbors here at Peccole Ranch. One day, one of them might catch me after a badly missed putt and I just might have to tell them to go F*** themselves and then they would hate us disc golfers even more! Luckily for Disc Golf Relations.com, I probably won't ever be returning to Peccole Ranch DGC.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Peccole Ranch...Unlike Anything Else!
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Peccole Ranch is located in a more upscale housing development northwest of downtown Vegas. This 18 hole course was designed to play through 150 ft wide drainage ditches that run between neighborhoods. The entire course is scattered with a variety of trees and native foliage and is very well manicured from beginning to end, with holes 1-14 playing over grass in a park setting and holes 15-18 playing over a dryer more "desert like" terrain.
Due to the course's location, slopes on either side are in constant play and create the potential for rollaways when trying to putt or layup. At the same time, the slopes can be used to ones advantage when throwing rollers! Holes on the course range anywhere from 210-432 ft, but on average are closer to 330ft which makes par quite difficult due to its tricky layout. Most holes on the course force players to throw low tunnel shots, taking away large hyzer/anhyzer shots on nearly every hole due to the risk of throwing over the fence line. Throwing over the canopy IS possible if you have control of your tomahawks and thumbers but again, OB is quite easy if you are off. Peccole Ranch requires precision and power and is difficult to maintain the entire round which is why so many struggle to play well here. It is the ideal place to get away from the hot sun and work on tight lines and difficult approaches.
Favorite Hole(s): Holes #15-18 - Unique natural desert landscape with small greens making for a series of picturesque holes
Speed of Play
All eighteen holes have a pathway running right down the middle which creates the issue of pedestrians meandering through and stopping play more than most would like, especially during the warmer months. When the temperatures rise the locals are often out more frequently to exercise/walk the dog in the mornings and evenings making the course even more congested so be aware and expect to wait. Fortunately, residents, employees, and security seem to be quite friendly, and assuming you are polite and respectful and are not there to drink or smoke...you shouldn't have any issues getting a round in.
Also, the walk from hole #14 to #15 is a bit much. Walking a ¼ mile in the heat to finish the last four holes is brutal but worth the walk considering they are the best holes on the course.
Holes 4-12 run parallel to one another and with the area only being 150ft wide, it is easy to be throwing toward another group most of the time. If the course was busy, which it isn't most of the time, it would be quite easy to hit someone. Too many holes were installed in this area and due to the length, players are most likely throwing higher speed discs to make up distance making play very dangerous!
Another safety issue at Peccole Ranch are the tee pads. Although they are in excellent shape they are VERY dangerous when wet. They don't grip but are rather slick when wet, making it easy to slip and/or fall.
Least Favorite Hole(s): Holes #4-12 due to congestion and safety
After reading all the reviews on here I was glad I played this course regardless of its low rating. It is so unique and unlike any of the 200+ courses I have played that it was well worth my time. Parking was fairly easy assuming you park at the office near the tennis courts and head down under the tunnel taking you toward the first tee across the street. Once hole one is located, the rest of the course is pretty easy to locate as long as you know that there is a long walkout after hole 14 (about ¼ mile to the right). To be honest, it is worth the walk as the last few holes on the course are easily the most unique and memorable! If you come to Peccole Ranch with realistic expectations and the idea that this course is more of a novelty, then you will have a great time! You are not coming here to throw high speed drivers or to shoot "lights out", but rather to work on accuracy and control both off the tee and fairway. If your time is limited and you only have time to play one or two courses while in Vegas this may not be the place as Sunset and Mountain Crest seem to be preferred by most but it is worth a round if you have the time.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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Unique Neighborhood Course
Pros: Peccole Ranch is located in a very nice residential community. The course mostly plays through a drainage ditch that is about 150' wide with houses on both sides, which takes away big hyzers or anhyzers on several holes.
The concrete teepads are not huge, but they are level and big enough to allow a 3 or 4 step run-up on your drives.
The baskets are in good shape.
The tee signs are nice, but on a course like this, more details should be provided if possible to aid with navigation.
There are a good number of trees that offer a good break from the sun. The trees also force you to consider roller or overhand/thumber shots that most players don't have the ability to throw.
There are a few contenders, but I believe #12 is the signature hole here. 350' from a "well protected" teepad.
Cons: Although I am sure the designers did the best the could with the space available, the lack of flow and the long, often unmarked walks in between 12-13, 14-15 and 15-16 are the biggest con here.
Holes 4--8 and 9--12 share the same space. Please pay close attention to other golfers and park users, especially on these holes.
The lack of clear fair/airways mixed with numerous guardian trees will become quickly frustrating to beginners and rec level players.
Wet conditions caused by sprinklers made the teepads very dangerous. Although the sprinklers are vital to keeping the fairways alive, you will need to dry off your shoes to avoid slipping.
Other Thoughts: The only space to "legally" park (In the Peccole Ranch Homeowners Office/rec area lot at the corner of Apple Dr. and Red Hills Rd.) is not close to the first teepad.
A community service/security office stopped me to hand out a course map and list of rules for the course. She was very nice.
This course would have been extremely frustrating to navigate without the maps and details from other reviews posted here on DGCR. Thanks timg and everyone else who made it possible for me to find all 18 holes here at Peccole Ranch!
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Keeping it cool in the shade...
Pros: There are more trees here than any other course in Vegas. This means a few things. For one, shade! It's not nearly as brutal on a hot summer day, and you'll spend half your time under the cover of the trees here. More importantly, it means a lot of tunnel shots. You will be forced to throw as far as possible while still keeping your disc low and flat; this is not a skill that the other courses in the area (or enough courses in general) teach.
The preponderance of tunnel shots will also mean you'll need to consider some of your lesser used tools: overhand shots and rollers. Rollers aren't easy on many of the holes because the shape of ground is in a "V" (the course is in a drainage area). I used a couple thumbers throughout, although this is never your only option.
Every tee pad is concrete and adequately long. The tee signs are nothing special but give the distance and the shape of the fairway.
The grass is pretty lush due to the drainage nature of the whole area (other than the last several holes, which are in a nice desert landscape area), and the hole place is pretty pleasant.
Cons: Given how many trees were in the fairway, and given how narrow the fairways are, I'm very surprised that the holes are as long as they are. I felt like a lot of the holes were very difficult par 3's or pretty easy par 4's. This isn't a horrible thing for a few holes, but I would like to see some more holes in the 225-250 foot range. It wouldn't be tough to construct some holes with multiple lines: a risky ace run/birdie line along with a safer par line that won't allow for an easy birdie. Instead I felt like very good drives on most holes weren't rewarded with a birdie (and they weren't legitimate par 4's, either).
The course loops back on itself, so if you encounter other players, you'll be throwing toward them. This would never be a safe place to have 10 groups playing, but I only ran into one other group and a handful of pedestrians. If it's not busy on a beautiful Labor Day afternoon, it probably never is.
Navigation isn't too bad for the first 12 holes (turn the corner to the left on the 3rd hole and then go through the tunnel near hole 3 after you've completed hole 12). I would never have been able to navigate after hole 14 without another reviewer's directions. To clarify, walk up to the sidewalk along Mt. Charleston Blvd, turn right (east) and walk a quarter mile until you see another inlet between houses on the right. There were no signs pointing the way, so if you don't read this, you'll never find the last several holes.
Pay attention the tee signs. A couple times the hole in front of you is the wrong one (after nearly "acing" the basket in front of me on #3, I discovered that was actually the basket for #12). On that note, walk ahead to make sure no one is near the basket on #3 before teeing off. It's a cool shot around the corner but potentially unsafe.
Lastly, it's easy to lose discs here. The fairways are narrow, the OB is someone's back yard, and many of the houses are in gated communities (so if you throw into someone's yard, you can't even go to their front door to ask for it back)
Other Thoughts: The course is technically reserved for residents, but if aren't causing any trouble, I can't imagine you'll have much trouble. I parked in the lot of the community headquarters at I the corner of Apple Dr. and Red Hills Rd. A couple community security officers were nearby and didn't seem too worried by my presence.
Be respectful to this area. It's nothing like the other courses in the area. My score was bad, but my inaccurate drives got what they deserved. I like this place, and I'll be back.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
12 Helpful / 4 Not
You’re Probably NOT Supposed to be There.
- Great Use of Open Space. You certainly can't be mad at a housing development setting aside a portion of the land to create a greenway, walkway, park area for the residents to use... and then adding an 18 Hole disc golf course to it - even if you're not supposed to be there!
- Know How to Throw Low? If you don't know how to throw low, Peccole will teach you. With the risk of throwing into backyards, you can't help but learn. I didn't have any trouble, but my friend who doesn't play very much golf could have. Neither of us ever went OB, but I could easily see lesser experienced players, or ballsy experienced players trying to go big, visiting the neighbors.
- The Most Beautiful Concrete Tees Imaginable... Decent signage too.
- You're Not Supposed to be There. This course is labeled as extremely private. There is a sign at Hole 1 that says so. I stopped reading the sign after the first 3 words because I knew what direction the sign was going and I didn't want to knowingly "break" the rules (at least I could have pretended to not know for sure if I was questioned). Because of this...
- I Felt Uncomfortable. Knowing that I wasn't supposed to be there, and that I was playing extremely close to a lot of backyards, made me feel uncomfortable. It was really hard to concentrate on shots knowing that I was not supposed to be there.
- Fairways??? There was a considerable lack of FAIRways to work with. Linking a bunch of 300+' shots with a 10' ceiling isn't the best course design... especially when considering that the alternate AIRway option of throwing over the trees brings backyard/houses/windows/etc... into play. Throwing spike hyzers over a few houses is an option, but there's no need to piss off the neighbors... especially if you're not supposed to be there.
- Long Walks. There were some long walks out there, including a ¼ mile plus walk down a sidewalk between Holes 14 and 15. Several other Holes required you to retrace your footsteps, walking back, past the tee you just played from, to get to the next tee which plays the opposite direction.
- Redundant. How many low ceilinged 325'holes can be designed? A lot... I can't remember the last time I threw so many sidearm rollers.
- Overall... I was disappointed in my experience at Peccole Ranch. Aside from feeling more than uncomfortable, the lack of fairways and Hole variety made the course lackluster. I can understand the high rating it has received because of the trees, grass, length, etc... but the course itself has major flaws.
- Finding 15. After Hole 14, walk up to the sidewalk and turn right... walk down the sidewalk for ¼ mile or more until the next inlet between the houses puts you back on the greenway. I was walking down the sidewalk thinking "there's no way it's this far" and was just about to turn around when I found the inlet.
- Chicago Brewery. I've been to more than 70 microbreweries during my travels and the Chicago Brewery, which is approximately 3 minutes away from the course, is Fantastic! Of the 10 beers I sampled, 9 were better than 90% of the other beers I've had of that same style. And, their food was great too. Highly recommend their Hot Pastrami sandwich with Cole Slaw.
- My Las Vegas Rankings. I played 6 of the 7 courses in Vegas during a recent business trip. My rankings are: Sunset, Mountain Crest, Red Ridge, Pecole Ranch, Freedom, (Anthem - based on ratings), Carson Davis.
- My Score: +1
12 of 16 people found this review helpful.
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