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Hole #16 
3 / 195ft.
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Reviews: 28
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Average course with untapped potential 
Pros: Barber Park is an interesting course, if nothing else. There's nothing very great or memorable, but also nothing very bad. That said, it's very average, but I see some untapped potential to makes this a good course.
- A tale of two courses. First eight holes are all open, with the occasional tree in play. The last 10 holes are in the woods, with the exception of #14 (you tee off from the trees into an open field) & 18 (wide-open.)
- Very consistent course. Average hole length is just under 315 feet. No hole is longer than 400 feet, and only 1 hole under 200 feet - #16 at 195.
- The 10 open holes (1 - 8, 14 & 18) all allow you chance to unleash drives. Of those open holes, all except #18 (295 feet) are more than 300 feet.
- Wooded holes give a good variety from really tight (9, 11) to slightly wider fairways; from doglegs (both left and right) to really straight shots.
- Good course flow. Very good course map, which is detailed enough it includes walking trails. This is very helpful in the absence of tee signs.
- Nice looking park with lots of amenities - large rec building, walking trails, ball fields, courts, playground.
- A tale of two courses. First eight holes are all open, with the occasional tree in play. The last 10 holes are in the woods, with the exception of #14 (you tee off from the trees into an open field) & 18 (wide-open.)
- Very consistent course. Average hole length is just under 315 feet. No hole is longer than 400 feet, and only 1 hole under 200 feet - #16 at 195.
- The 10 open holes (1 - 8, 14 & 18) all allow you chance to unleash drives. Of those open holes, all except #18 (295 feet) are more than 300 feet.
- Wooded holes give a good variety from really tight (9, 11) to slightly wider fairways; from doglegs (both left and right) to really straight shots.
- Good course flow. Very good course map, which is detailed enough it includes walking trails. This is very helpful in the absence of tee signs.
- Nice looking park with lots of amenities - large rec building, walking trails, ball fields, courts, playground.
Cons: This may some contradictory, but having 18 relatively average holes is a con. On a hole-by-hole basis, there was not a single bad hole, but neither any truly great holes. If we rated individual holes, the majority would be 2, 2.5 & 3s. None stood out as a signature, must-play hole.
- Along those same lines, I kept having cases of dejà vu throughout the course. If you throw 300-325, or less, the open holes are going to be frustrating. On the first 8 holes, it seemed I had about 30 - 50 feet to the basket - just outside birdie range, but also an easy up and down. Even the wooded holes seemed similar - #9 - 13 were doglegs, #15 - 17 were straight.
- The course had a feel of "the path of least resistance" by putting holes where little to no work was required. It didn't seem like many, if any, trees had been cut down. It's a shame because there was a ton of wooded area, and some great holes could be built with some work.
- Basic course amenities were severely lacking. No tee signs. Most holes had tiny rocks with the hole number, but unless you're within 5 feet, you won't see them. There were also several arrows pointing to the next hole. It's a great idea in theory, but not so much when you have a long walk, or have to walk around a corner where the next tee isn't even visible. Also, the transition from #8 to #9 is bad. You essentially have to walk through an opening in a fence, around a large pipe, over a small creek/waterbed to #9 tee. It looked very slick, and seemed like a lawsuit waiting to happen. Or you can be like me, not see it, and take a 5 minute walk around the fence and creek to get to the hole.
- No tee pads. This was my biggest issue. The dirt tee pad area often wasn't even level. On a lot of wooded holes, the tee area was in/over tree roots, which means you're not going to be able to do your full run up.
- Along those same lines, I kept having cases of dejà vu throughout the course. If you throw 300-325, or less, the open holes are going to be frustrating. On the first 8 holes, it seemed I had about 30 - 50 feet to the basket - just outside birdie range, but also an easy up and down. Even the wooded holes seemed similar - #9 - 13 were doglegs, #15 - 17 were straight.
- The course had a feel of "the path of least resistance" by putting holes where little to no work was required. It didn't seem like many, if any, trees had been cut down. It's a shame because there was a ton of wooded area, and some great holes could be built with some work.
- Basic course amenities were severely lacking. No tee signs. Most holes had tiny rocks with the hole number, but unless you're within 5 feet, you won't see them. There were also several arrows pointing to the next hole. It's a great idea in theory, but not so much when you have a long walk, or have to walk around a corner where the next tee isn't even visible. Also, the transition from #8 to #9 is bad. You essentially have to walk through an opening in a fence, around a large pipe, over a small creek/waterbed to #9 tee. It looked very slick, and seemed like a lawsuit waiting to happen. Or you can be like me, not see it, and take a 5 minute walk around the fence and creek to get to the hole.
- No tee pads. This was my biggest issue. The dirt tee pad area often wasn't even level. On a lot of wooded holes, the tee area was in/over tree roots, which means you're not going to be able to do your full run up.
Other Thoughts: As said, this course had nothing majorly wrong with it, but that was the problem. Like any parent mad with a child, this course isn't reaching its full potential. Only one hole, #5, took advantage of the big hill on the front #9, when there was more room. Also, there was a huge hill to the left of #3, which could lead to an awesome hole or two, and more wooded areas throughout the back 9. Even if they eliminated several of the wide-open holes on the front 9 (say #2 , 3 & 6), and get to the wooded holes sooner. The course has so much untapped potential.
- Because of its layout, the average player isn't going to throw a low score, or see a lot of birdies, but also won't face many high scores. It was very fitting for this course that I had 18 straight pars, with a couple birdie chances, and only 1 scramble to save par. IMO, you need a lot more risk/reward holes to create more excitement. I'd rather have 9 birdies and 9 bogeys than 18 straight pars any day.
- All things said, Barber Park is an average to slightly above average course. After reading the other reviews, I had low expectations, but the course actually exceeded them. Don't expect to be wowed, but don't expect to be disappointed either. This is your Applebee's of courses. This is never going to be anybody's first choice to play, it isn't going to overwhelm anybody, but even with a lack of sexiness, you'll be satisfied.
- This is a solid 2.5. If the tee pad/tee sign issue were fixed, this would be closer to a 3. With such a good piece of land, if they ever got serious about this a good course, there's no reason it couldn't become a true must play.
- Because of its layout, the average player isn't going to throw a low score, or see a lot of birdies, but also won't face many high scores. It was very fitting for this course that I had 18 straight pars, with a couple birdie chances, and only 1 scramble to save par. IMO, you need a lot more risk/reward holes to create more excitement. I'd rather have 9 birdies and 9 bogeys than 18 straight pars any day.
- All things said, Barber Park is an average to slightly above average course. After reading the other reviews, I had low expectations, but the course actually exceeded them. Don't expect to be wowed, but don't expect to be disappointed either. This is your Applebee's of courses. This is never going to be anybody's first choice to play, it isn't going to overwhelm anybody, but even with a lack of sexiness, you'll be satisfied.
- This is a solid 2.5. If the tee pad/tee sign issue were fixed, this would be closer to a 3. With such a good piece of land, if they ever got serious about this a good course, there's no reason it couldn't become a true must play.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Report this Review okay course 
Pros: nice length, elavation changes, and both open and wooded holes
Cons: tee pads are hard to find and just dirt patches in grass, hard to find way around even with the map
Other Thoughts: with some work on tees could be very nice course
0 of 4 people found this review helpful.
LONG ARM COURSE 
5+ 
3/26/2010 
3/29/2010
Review By: mhdisc03 Played: 20 Reviewed: 19 Exp: 12.7 Years
This review was updated on 9/3/2010
Pros: *course record david wiggles jr 12 down* i like this course but i can throw 450. couple of holes are rite at 400, most around 300 in the field part, 250 in the woods. no pads but that makes u focus more on your foot work.first 8 holes are in the field. then take a left after hole 8 over the creek. thats the only place to get lost. ir your in the area play this course but your not missing much if you dont.DOUBLES START BACK 3/31/2010 @5 PM/ 5 BUCKS/ CASH 4 PROS PLASTIC 4 AMS
Cons: slippery when wet
Other Thoughts: THEY JUST OPENED THE NEW PLAY GROUND AND WATER MINI PARK FOR THE KIDS ACROSS FROM HOLE ONE.
2 of 7 people found this review helpful.
Barber tips 
5+ 10/20/2009 3/24/2010
Review By: Olorin 
Played: 283 Reviewed: 114 Exp: 34 Years
This review was updated on 8/27/2010
Pros:
*Design: There are a few nice holes. Hole 4 comes to mind-- with scattered foliage and especially tricky with the drop off down the hill on the right side. Hole 11 is a nice woods shot with a tight, challenging fairway and a challenging green.
*Elevation changes: On the front 9 there are some hills that provide good ups and downs, even though 7 holes are flat. (7 Flat/ 4 Up/ 7 Down)
*Amenities: There's a basic map on the scorecard, and there are usually scorecards at the first tee. There's also a good message board.
*Design: There are a few nice holes. Hole 4 comes to mind-- with scattered foliage and especially tricky with the drop off down the hill on the right side. Hole 11 is a nice woods shot with a tight, challenging fairway and a challenging green.
*Elevation changes: On the front 9 there are some hills that provide good ups and downs, even though 7 holes are flat. (7 Flat/ 4 Up/ 7 Down)
*Amenities: There's a basic map on the scorecard, and there are usually scorecards at the first tee. There's also a good message board.
Cons:
-There are no tee signs and no real tee pads! The only thing marking the tees are just the tops of round white concrete cylinders almost flush to the ground, so the tees are very poorly marked and can be really hard to find. Since the tees are natural, you find them by hunting for the worn spots. Some tees are uneven. First timers had better take a map or they may never find the tees. As it is, even though I've played the course several times, I never found tees 15 & 17 because the area had been dug up.
-There are too many straight holes for my taste. The open straight holes are especially lackluster. 13 St/ 1 Left/ 4 Right
-I don't really like holes with buildings nearby because it takes away from the natural beauty, and Barber has several of these since the large park Rec center is in the middle of the course.
-There are no tee signs and no real tee pads! The only thing marking the tees are just the tops of round white concrete cylinders almost flush to the ground, so the tees are very poorly marked and can be really hard to find. Since the tees are natural, you find them by hunting for the worn spots. Some tees are uneven. First timers had better take a map or they may never find the tees. As it is, even though I've played the course several times, I never found tees 15 & 17 because the area had been dug up.
-There are too many straight holes for my taste. The open straight holes are especially lackluster. 13 St/ 1 Left/ 4 Right
-I don't really like holes with buildings nearby because it takes away from the natural beauty, and Barber has several of these since the large park Rec center is in the middle of the course.
Other Thoughts:
Course Level: Blue (most suited for Advanced players rated 950). It's Blue level mainly because of it's length, albeit an easier Blue.
-There is decent terrain variety, but a few too many wide open grass holes for my taste. (6 Woods/ 5 Open/ 7 Mixed.)
-Length variety is below average with 16 holes are in the 200-399 ft range. (1 of 195/ 7 of 200-299/ 9 of 300-399/ 1 of 400). The front nine is much longer than the back (3105 ft. vs. 2555 ft). To expand on this a little more, the longer front has 7 holes of 330-375 ft. plus 1 of 400 ft., while the shorter back has 7 holes of 195-295 ft. plus 1 of 300.
-On hole 14 I don't feel totally safe. You drive over a field in the vicinity of some sketch housing, and sometimes there are shifty looking urban males wandering around. Also, kids have been known to run out and steal your disc here.
Over the years Barber has gone downhill. When the park added some facilities this took out a few holes, and they were replaced with holes that are too open and bland. The course is only a few minutes off of I-40, if you happen to be driving by, but I wouldn't recommend making a special trip to play here.
A note about my rating: My rating is a subjective measure of my enjoyment of the course, on the day I played it, and it is NOT intended to be a measure of the quality of the course. My ratings are given "on the curve" in relation to all other courses I've played.
-More detailed "Overall Rating" notes and "Hole-by-hole Ratings" are available in the Files section.
Course Level: Blue (most suited for Advanced players rated 950). It's Blue level mainly because of it's length, albeit an easier Blue.
-There is decent terrain variety, but a few too many wide open grass holes for my taste. (6 Woods/ 5 Open/ 7 Mixed.)
-Length variety is below average with 16 holes are in the 200-399 ft range. (1 of 195/ 7 of 200-299/ 9 of 300-399/ 1 of 400). The front nine is much longer than the back (3105 ft. vs. 2555 ft). To expand on this a little more, the longer front has 7 holes of 330-375 ft. plus 1 of 400 ft., while the shorter back has 7 holes of 195-295 ft. plus 1 of 300.
-On hole 14 I don't feel totally safe. You drive over a field in the vicinity of some sketch housing, and sometimes there are shifty looking urban males wandering around. Also, kids have been known to run out and steal your disc here.
Over the years Barber has gone downhill. When the park added some facilities this took out a few holes, and they were replaced with holes that are too open and bland. The course is only a few minutes off of I-40, if you happen to be driving by, but I wouldn't recommend making a special trip to play here.
A note about my rating: My rating is a subjective measure of my enjoyment of the course, on the day I played it, and it is NOT intended to be a measure of the quality of the course. My ratings are given "on the curve" in relation to all other courses I've played.
-More detailed "Overall Rating" notes and "Hole-by-hole Ratings" are available in the Files section.
9 of 9 people found this review helpful.
B-
Pros: Nice variety of holes considering the location.Its on an old water treatment facility campus so it is rather open on most holes.elevation used effectively to offset a lack of trees on some holes and add a little difficulty
Cons: Most open holes can be played as just straight on shots though some holes use elevation to counter this disadvatage. a little hard to follow the course but not terrible.
Other Thoughts: Could be a nicer course with a little more work on design. set in a very nice park though.
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
Trey133
Pros: Good mix of Open and Wooded Holes
Nice elevation changes on the open portion including an amazing shot from hole 5.
Wooded holes provide a challenge, especially hole 11.
A couple very picturesque holes in #5,#15 (good tunnel shot)
There is a league out there on Thursday nights.
Nice elevation changes on the open portion including an amazing shot from hole 5.
Wooded holes provide a challenge, especially hole 11.
A couple very picturesque holes in #5,#15 (good tunnel shot)
There is a league out there on Thursday nights.
Cons: No teepads.
Construction is changing the holes.
The map is laughable.
Although nothing has personally happened to myself, the course is not in a good section of town.
Construction is changing the holes.
The map is laughable.
Although nothing has personally happened to myself, the course is not in a good section of town.
Other Thoughts: This course is a gem to those that are local. People who are not local to the greensboro area, probably do not like it and overlook it. Its a great course to learn good controlled distance shots and stretch your rocs out on... but its cons are HEAVY cons and do not help out a new person to the course.
6 of 7 people found this review helpful.
Now a fan. 5+ 4/26/2010 12/14/2009
Review By: AdamCaudle Played: 25 Reviewed: 12 Exp: 3.9 Years
This review was updated on 4/26/2010
Pros: - There is good use of elevation here, especially on the front 9. 1 is a big uphill shot while 5 & 6 are two nice "wow" downhill shots (especially 5).
- There is a decent mix of pretty open shots, moderately open with a few trees, and woods type holes.
- The course has a challenging length to it with most holes in the 300-400 ft range.
- The 6 or 7 holes that play in the woods are fun and tight. They reward an accurate throw and punish throws that are off line.
- All baskets are in good working order. For some reason they all have neon pink/green tape on them right now.
- There is a decent mix of pretty open shots, moderately open with a few trees, and woods type holes.
- The course has a challenging length to it with most holes in the 300-400 ft range.
- The 6 or 7 holes that play in the woods are fun and tight. They reward an accurate throw and punish throws that are off line.
- All baskets are in good working order. For some reason they all have neon pink/green tape on them right now.
Cons: - I don't mind good dirt teepads, but these are in poor condition. They are just worn out ruts in the grass with little white cylinders to mark where they are. It would be nice if they would make a square with 2x4's and fill 'em in with dirt and rake them once in a while.
- None of the holes are marked with numbers or distance or anything. Some good tee signs would help new players find the holes. It's nearly impossible to navigate without knowing the course or without a map because it doesn't have a very natural flow or layout to it.
- None of the holes are marked with numbers or distance or anything. Some good tee signs would help new players find the holes. It's nearly impossible to navigate without knowing the course or without a map because it doesn't have a very natural flow or layout to it.
Other Thoughts: After playing this course as a better player I now appreciate the challenges it offers, while I still realize the obvious flaws in the course.
I still don't exactly know where the hole 7 and hole 17 tees are. We just throw from a big dirt spot in the ground. If you get stuck at 8, make an immediate left from the basket and go in the opening the woods. Go across the little dam thing, and the tee for 9 shoots slightly uphill into the woods.
I still don't exactly know where the hole 7 and hole 17 tees are. We just throw from a big dirt spot in the ground. If you get stuck at 8, make an immediate left from the basket and go in the opening the woods. Go across the little dam thing, and the tee for 9 shoots slightly uphill into the woods.
5 of 6 people found this review helpful.
not that great
Pros: Nice and challenging. First 8 holes are open and pretty easy to find the hole.
Cons: Poor Signage, Dirt and gravel tees make it easier to slip and hurt yourself, lots of poison ivy around the wooded holes, construction stuff makes obstacles. It was hard finding the tee on some holes.
Other Thoughts: Very challenging course. Not a course for beginners. Most hole lengths are in the 200's and 300's.
1 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Not bad, Not bad
Pros: Some long holes to flex your distance shot. Good mix of open and wooded. This course makes good use of elevation. Hole 6 (I think) has a big drop towards the basket. Someone with a strong drive could throw it 500 from here, but the basket is only 350-400ish. 14 is similar because in terms of elevation drop. These downhill throws challenge your ability to throw straight because most fades and annies will make their way into the woods. The wooded holes are nice change of pace, but still relatively straight forward.
The course isn't a busy one, so you can take your time. It is very convenient to I-40.
The course isn't a busy one, so you can take your time. It is very convenient to I-40.
Cons: The only true con is the poor signage. Other than that the only con is that the course is sort of bland overall. Other than the elevation stuff, there isn't much creativity in terms of shot selection. It isn't broken in any way, but nothing impresses me about it.
Other Thoughts: Johnson Street or North Asheboro are better choices if you are in the area. None the less, it is fun and reasonably challenging. If you haven't played it, it is worth a round, but it probably won't wow you.
4 of 6 people found this review helpful.
B = Better Than Average
Pros: What I personally like and how this course stacks up:
1) Holes with good risk/reward -- B-
2) Holes that have rewarding birdie opportunities -- B+
3) More wooded than open - lots of variety of shots required caused by hole shape and topography -- B
4) Natural beauty (Appalachian beauty preferred) and seclusion -- B-
5) Multi-shot holes with defined landing zones, good risk/reward and multiple options to play them -- NA
1) Holes with good risk/reward -- B-
2) Holes that have rewarding birdie opportunities -- B+
3) More wooded than open - lots of variety of shots required caused by hole shape and topography -- B
4) Natural beauty (Appalachian beauty preferred) and seclusion -- B-
5) Multi-shot holes with defined landing zones, good risk/reward and multiple options to play them -- NA
Other Thoughts: I ranked this course subjectively based on my own personal enjoyment factor…more accurately my "personal addiction factor". Since I have played a decent number of courses (115 18-hole, 50 9-hole as of early 2009), my hope is that players/explorers who have similar tastes will find my ratings list helpful as they chose courses to play and explore.
Over time, I expect to fill some of my reviews in with more descriptive verbiage…if what I say adds anything to what has already been written. For now, my list is more important to me than the verbiage of my reviews.
I fully expect others with different tastes/philosophies to disagree with me. See my profile for my rating philosophy.
Over time, I expect to fill some of my reviews in with more descriptive verbiage…if what I say adds anything to what has already been written. For now, my list is more important to me than the verbiage of my reviews.
I fully expect others with different tastes/philosophies to disagree with me. See my profile for my rating philosophy.
7 of 14 people found this review helpful.
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