2 Helpful / 4 Not
Awesome, long course
Pros: Practice basket - Concrete pads - maps with pars - very helpful local disc golfers - Long, innovative holes - Multiple basket positions - Difficult holes - Quality baskets -
Cons: Unclear which baskets are in which positions - Pars need to be increased on at least half of the holes - Easy to lose a disc if you're a beginner - Confusing layout (threw to wrong baskets more then once) - No directional signs to the next holes - Long walks between certain holes
Other Thoughts: I try to play a new course every time I go on a trip and Victor Ashe was a delightful surprise in Knoxville. It was a nice change of pace after playing a bunch of sub-par short courses.
Victor Ashe doesn't suffer from what most course suffer from - which is a short boring course that doesn't mix up it's shots. The course demands accurate long drives and great second shots to even put you in position for a par putt. There are interesting long holes and short technical holes. There are blind holes and there's also a nice water hazard on 1.
I had a HORRIBLE game, but I still contend that half the holes' pars should be upped. The course is difficult to play if you're new.
Next time I'm in Knoxville, I'll play Victor Ashe at least 2 or 3 times. It takes an afternoon to play and it's a great place to play no matter the skill level.
2 of 6 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: What's not to like - playing golf, watching pretty girls walk dogs through the park, people fishing in the lake where you just threw two of your discs? This course has all the great elements- nice tees and signs, rolling hills of grass, challenging pin placements, elevation changes on most holes and did I mention the lake? Plenty of trees and thick shrubs make this a real challenge, causing you to THINK & SHAPE your shots. Most of the course is rolling grass & trees with only a few wide open holes and one in tight woods. Multiple pin placements will keep you thinking. Even when the course was beating me up, I kept thinking "wow I sure like this place!"
Cons: The brush can be thick and nasty with thorns awaiting you. The lake on #1 is not too forgiving when the pin is in long position (about 300' to clear the pond). Even if you lay up on the peninsula, you still have a difficult approach to likely get a bogey 4. The long pin on the right should be removed- though it makes a great pin position, the shore below it is a popular place for anglers and too dangerous! A few of the open holes lack trees or other good obstacles (#3-5). Hole 3 in the long position is a bit dull once you pass the first set of trees, and then it's literally wide open the next 700 feet- yawn. Many holes are really lacking "next tee" signs particularly holes 6,13,15 - these walks are also quite lengthy! Trash was a minor problem. Standing water between holes 5 & 15 after a big rainstorm. Finally, the long walks between 5 & 6 and again between 14 & 15 are just rotten if you are new and don't have a map - get a map!
Other Thoughts: No two holes were alike and you could tell the designers were really making the most of the land there! I feel an improvement of flow (or a few badly needed signs) and some improvement to the wide open holes would help immensely.
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 5 Not
Really nice course
Pros: Really nice tees. Benches and trash cans at most tees.
Cons: There a few long walks from previous hole to next tee.
Litter is a slight problem
Other Thoughts: You can make it a nine whole very easily by going from 5 to 15. It is really a lot of fun and in a nice area. A lot of the trash was sitting on the ld of the trash cans, so I guess there are a lot of lazy people that play the course. The trash cans are about every other hole which make the litter a little ridiculous.
2 of 7 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 3 Not
Stop in Knoxville
Pros: The innova baskets were nice. Throwing over the water on hole 1 is cool.There was a good mix of shorter and longer holes. Alot of the holes are wide open(especially the front 9) which means you can really "grip it and rip it." Not many places to lose a disc. All the tee pads were nice and luxurious.There were alot of other park goers but the DG course stayed pretty clear of them.
Cons: Although fun the couse could be made harder(I don't remember if the pins were in the long or short position when I played.) Because there isn't that many shrubs or trees on alot of the holes mistakes are often not punished. I felt there were alot of good holes but none that really impressed me (outside maybe of 1.) Could use signs pointing to the next tee.
Other Thoughts: Definatley a fun course and I would recommend it to any DG'er going through the area.
3 of 6 people found this review helpful.
11 Helpful / 0 Not
Big arms get ready
Pros: Multiple pin placements, well maintained, trash cans throughout, Long placements really give you a chance to grip and rip, plenty of parking, practice basket, biggest tee pads I had ever played on (they were terrific)
Cons: Can be hard to navigate, most holes are pretty open, could use more variety
Other Thoughts: Course is located in a city park and is very well maintained. Once you enter the park, veer to the right and make you way to the back of the lot. If you circle the round-about at the end you will be able to see the practice basket and first tee off to the side of the road. There is plenty of parking near the round-about as well, so you should have no problems getting a space here.
The first hole is probably my favorite hole on the course, and is also your most likely spot to lose a disc. You find yourself throwing over a pond to the basket, and the tee is well above the water so you have to be careful and not let it sail on you. After hole one, the rest are pretty open with some decent elevation changes to keep it challenging.
Navigating the first few holes wasn't an issue. After finishing up with #1, you can see the tee for #2 if you look away from the pond and up the hill. After #2, continue past the basket and around the trees, its a bit of a walk to #3, but if you just follow the path you will see it.
Navigating started to get a bit more difficult at this point. Once you finish up with #3, the tee pad for #4 can be hard to spot at first. There is two that you can see from the basket of hole #4. One is back up towards the tee pad for hole #3, this is actually the tee for #5. The tee pad for #4 is going to be in the opposite direction and in a small grove of trees, and the hole plays back up the hill towards the walkway and bridge.
The tee for #5 is easy to spot once you finish up with #4. On hole #5 you will find yourself throwing parallel to the walking path and down the hill towards the trees. The elevation change here can be real interesting, so be careful.
After #5 we spent about 10-15 minutes trying to locate #6. If you are standing at the basket for #5 and looking at the trees and the walking/jogging path behind the baskets, there will be baskets to your right, ignore them. To get to #6 you will want to follow the walking path to your left for about 300-325 feet, and to your right you will see the tee for #6, there will be a bench and trash can as well.
From holes #6 - #11 you shouldn't have to many issues, don't recall any blind shots or spots where you can't easily see the next hole. Once you get to #12, you have a blind shot. The basket for #12 is going to down the hill, and across the small creek/ditch, and off to the right. After you throw your drive and are making your way down the hill, look off to the left, you will be able to spot the basket for #13, it is also blind from the tee.
Hole #14 should give you no problems, easy to spot from the last hole and the basket was also easy to spot from the tee.
After #14 you will want to make your way back up the walking path, back towards hole #5 to get back to the last few holes. The tee for #15 is pretty close to the basket for #5 and throws along the tree line back towards the parking lot. The rest of the holes are pretty easy to navigate and fairly easy to spot from the tee, the signs also do a good job of showing the basket placements, you just have to figure out which placement they are in.
This course was really made for those golfers with big arms and had huge tee pads for the run-up you are going to need on a few holes. If pins are in the long position the shortest hole on the course is 305' and the longest is 1006', so be ready to grip and rip out here. For this reason it may not be the best course for beginners. It also covers a fairly large amount of land, and can get hot and humid in the summer, so dress appropriately, be ready to do a lot of walking, and bring plenty of water.
Update: Upon further review, I thought this course deserved a bit higher rating. The tee pads are amazing, love the size, plenty of room for a run up. There are two basket placements, and a lot of variety, just figured these things, plus all the other good things about the course make it a bit better than I originally thought.
11 of 11 people found this review helpful.
7 Helpful / 1 Not
Not quite up to its potential
Pros: The length---8000-9000'---and the fact that much of the course is pretty open with rolling elevation, means those with big arms get a few chances to really air them out.
It's a beautiful place to play, with views from the high hills, and no development surrounding it.
Through some parts of the course it struck me as a 4.5 rating, but then.....
Cons: .....there are a number of holes which, while not bad, aren't particularly inspired, with mundane angles or trees to dodge.
Not a lot of shade, and a lot of effort involved, on an August day such as, for instance, my visit.
Other Thoughts: Hole 1 is great or terrible, depending on your viewpoint. Tee of high above water, throwing a RHBH hyzer to a basket on a slope on the other side, not terribly far away. A tough hole to judge and throw on your first visit; tougher still as your first hole; and I image quite tough for lefties or RH forehanders.
7 of 8 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 8 Not
B+ = You Be Feelin' Positive After Playing This
Pros: What I personally like and how this course stacks up:
1) Holes with good risk/reward. Fair, but harsh punishment for bad decisions or execution. == B-
2) Holes that have rewarding birdie opportunities for me. I throw 300' accurately, 360' max. == B-
3) More wooded than open - lots of variety of shots required caused by hole shape and topography == B+
4) Natural beauty (Appalachian beauty preferred) and seclusion. == A-
5) Bonus points for multi-shot holes with defined landing zones, good risk/reward and multiple options to play them. == C-
Other Thoughts: It's all about feeding the addiction, so I ranked this course subjectively based on my own "personal addiction factor". The grades above tell how well the course will draw me back to itself again and again and again. Since I have played a decent number of courses (125 18-hole, 64 9-hole as of mid 2009), my hope is that players/explorers who have similar addiction tastes will find my ratings list helpful as they choose courses to play and explore.
Over time, I expect to fill some of my reviews in with more descriptive verbiage...if what I can add anything to what has already been written. For now, my list is more important to me than the verbiage of my reviews.
I fully expect others with different tastes/philosophies to disagree with me....that's the fun of things here. See my profile for my rating philosophy.
4 of 12 people found this review helpful.
11 Helpful / 0 Not
The nicest tee areas I've had to date: long, flat concrete teepads, places to sit, trashcans, signs showing 2~3 basket locations with distances, and a hook to hang your bag!
Big, open, well-maintained park with gently flowing landscape. Practice putting basket.
Favourite hole #9: about 300' straight down narrowing fairway, then slight right turn 150' to basket guarded by a few large stones in front, trees behind.
Since many of the baskets are not visible from the tee, and some are in slightly differing directions, it would be nice to have some indicator at the tee of the basket's current position.
Distances on map (available online, must-have for a first-time visitor) differ somewhat from those listed on the tee signs.
Bit of a walk from #5 to #6, #14 to #15.
Least favourite hole #1: No decision to be made for a beginner (don't throw) or very experienced (easy throw) player, but for us middle-of-the-road types, throwing across that pond, with a slight wind in your face, has you imagining your disc turning over and going for a swim ... :-O
Most holes fairly long. After a few open ones near the start, the remainder mostly play through tree-lined narrowing fairways, with an occasional mid-fairway tree or two to deal with, or needing a gentle turn.
Warning: Locals tell me that they drag Beasts out of the pond more frequently than any other disc! :^P
11 of 11 people found this review helpful.
9 Helpful / 0 Not
Big Park, Soild Course
Pros: I played a tournament at this course several years ago, and it stuck in my mind as very nice course with a lot of length. The park is huge, and the design takes you across rolling fields and along the edge of the woods. There is decent elevation change, and plenty of opportunities to really rip a drive. Multiple basket positions for almost every hole makes for a good variety.
Visually, the course is in great shape. The local club takes very good care of this course. The first hole plays over a large man-made pond. Can be intimidating for newer players, but makes for a very nice opening shot.
Cons: This course is not super challenging, other than the distance - which may make newer players want to find a shorter course.
A few of the holes on the back 9 feel like they were just thrown in, and don't fit with the rest of the course. For the most part the course has a good flow, although there are several long walks throughout the design.
Other Thoughts: This is a nice course, and seems like it is not usually over-crowded. In a large group, the course will take 2+ hours, but a casual round would take around 1.5 hours.
9 of 9 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 5 Not
Nice and Big
Pros: Very well marked, beautifully maintained, wide open and pretty. Good test of a big arm.
Cons: a lot of the same shots, not very wooded. not very much technacality
Other Thoughts: this is an awesome course, but not very tight, and very wide open.
3 of 8 people found this review helpful.
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