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I compared the same stages of the throw. Most of Sidewinder's foot pressure is still on his rear foot when his pump is approaching full extension. Notice that in his drill move he is pumping more up with his whole body, which is important to understand the differences between you, Feldberg, and...

She's only about an hour away from me, let's get her started

Might as well pass this along while you're at it. I didn't understand it (physically) until very recently. Make your pump very long off the left foot here rather than what you are doing. Disc and arm should be way out ahead of you pulling you forward an up into the "prep step" (step before...

Throw the disc. Like other athletic moves but it can require a lot of brain retraining. I may have responded especially well to them because of my martial arts & bag hammering, but I still find nothing wrong with Sidewinder's "slash thru" concepts or the nose of the disc coming around like a...

I still mess with that sometimes and it was maybe the best purchase next to my throwing sledge. It's kind of weird on the disc because the best throws always seem like they have that weird combination of "corkscrewing" into and out of the backswing/screwing the jar effect, plus possibly...

First (re)scheduled tourney ever is Sat. Likely to be wet if not postponed. Mostly wooded and accuracy within 300' & hitting gaps will matter. Threw max Wt. Comet field session on wet ground through two posts to target at 300-320'ish feet. Wanted to rule out/in what's working best today...

Maybe a weird thought, but one way simplifying my grip these days is "whatever gets me the best commitment" through the hit. I use some version of what people call a fork grip or modified fan grip for most of my shots now. When I can't throw outside I take the grips through this drill resisting...

There's also potentially the linear distortion/literal stretch of the disc in some forms - like Wiggins' possibly places a large effect on it as part of the horizontal abduction phase of his move.

Now that's also fascinating.

I guess I'm imagining two players and both are in real-world situations: 1. A new player with low armspeed who is putting a lot of OAT/wobble on the disc at release. It turns the "overstable" disc into a turning disc early in flight. The player concludes that some discs are "too understable"...

This is what I was taking away so far, but interested if I'm off my rocker.

Also when I raised the "dimple tech" idea there was an interesting interaction in this thread I am not qualified to comment on: https://www.dgcoursereview.com/threads/disc-flight-science.148677/

I generally agree with not needing a decoder ring. In most of his moves SW literally just wants people to do them as designed so they have their effects. Which is more or less exactly what most people who like KISS claim they want. That's why I need to do them reasonably close to what he is...

Need/I needed to watch how he moves and figure out how it is generating the movement, not just want he says. The squeeze the pole part of the ride the bull seems crucial to the interior sequence I am talking about in the prior post. The "squeeze" can be independently exaggerated or toned down...

I think it's great and healthy in the long run for people to be interested all the way from the deepest level of theory to the simplest of teaching tools and ideas. If we're saying that different people will do each of those things to different degrees and everywhere in between for the sake of...

I just played a round with @SocraDeez while he was passing through town and tried a couple shots closing my left eye. They came out immediately better on their own. I'll check the look of that in my next blanket session

Just from having the benefit of messing with both considerably now and watching everyone's motion a lot, I'll continue to maintain "technical neutrality" when comparing and contrasting moves regardless of how it was initially stated, which I'm finding personally instructive: Turbo Encabulator...

Can continue to point out in that case at least one difference in theoretical role of interior leg load & unload in locomotion (turbo encabulator; Sidewinder) vs. Thighmaster (Jaani).

Hershyzer: setup was decent but you suddenly turn away from the target even further as you shift forward. You are trying to rotate into your rear hip rather than "stand" on it like you would when walking. Just keep that setup then come off more "sideways" directly out of the starting posture. No...

Aroldis "Thighmaster/Turbo Encabulator Master" Chapman: