Cherokee, NC

Fire Mountain Disc Golf Sanctuary

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DiscGolfCraig
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Experience: 20.5 years 628 played 574 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Best new course I played in ‘24

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 27, 2024 Played the course:once

Pros:

This course started like an absolute beast. It has outstanding beauty throughout the entire round. And yet, it feels like the course came up just short of reaching its potential of being outstanding.
- I'm giving Fire Sanctuary an easy 4.0 rating. It's an excellent course. It just runs out of steam on the back 9 with a series of rather simple holes. The line is that fine that a couple of holes makes the difference in a course's final rating.
- That said, I fully enjoyed this course. There is so much to like here. In my book, it's still the best course in western North Carolina, from Asheville to the Tennessee border, better than Jackon Park and Richmond Hill.
- If you can survive the front 9, the back nine is much more forgiving. There are some tight, long fairways on the front. Have fun throwing your tee shots on #4, 6, 7, or 8. After that set of holes, the fairway on #9 seems like a piece of cake to it. And, in hindsight, #2 wasn't so tough after all.
- Add to that, the elevation factors on the front 9 were more pronounced. #3 is a deceivingly tough upshot hole. When my second shot landed within feet of the basket, and I watched it roll 60 feet away, I got to experience the same thing again on my next shot.
- #4 is downhill, and a winding fairway. It's only 381 feet, but with trees galore, and the weaving fairway, it's safe to say your tee shot could end up anywhere.
- #9 is the first hole that plays close to the river. A conservative tee shot will land you right in the middle of the fairway, putting you right next to the river.
- Tee signs are elite level. A course of this caliber, and with so many blind tee shots, they are your eyes on many holes. They saved me multiple shots throughout my round.
- #15 is the most fun hole on the course. Downhill, gauntlet-style fairway, 282-foot shot. Throw your tee shot on a rope. This was my best tee shot of the day, and I enjoyed my only 2 of the round, with a tap-in birdie putt. It's also one of the most picturesque views from the tee.
- #16 – 18 all play alongside the river, giving a great view plus an element of danger. Three of the longer layouts on the course. A great end to the round.

Cons:

If it's possible to re-arrange the holes, please do it. The front 9 is far superior to the back 9. It's like climbing a mountain. You use all your energy and resources on the first half of the trip, then coast on the way back. Essentially the same thing here. From wider fairways, flatter terrain, simpler layouts, I could, dare I say it, be aggressive on the back 9.
- Work needs to be done on the long layout for #11. This was easily the worst portion of any hole on the entire course. It's a shame, because you should be enjoying an outstanding backdrop (if you don't go long and end up in the river). Instead, you're throwing through/over/around trees/bushes with no discernable fairway once you get past the short basket. It was jarring how different the upkeep on this hole is compared to the rest of the course. I almost thought maybe parks & rec didn't know there was a long basket on this hole because the upkeep was so bad.
- Some other things I'm mentioning here are only negatives because of the problems they'll have on your round. Consider these warnings.
- The tight, blind-shot fairways, especially on the front side, will punish solo players and/or people who get far off the fairway. On some of these holes, good luck trying to determine which of the hundreds of trees your disc ricocheted off. Once your disc goes around the bend, you may be losing sight of it forever.
- Patience is a must here. Play conservatively when you need to. Be aggressive when you can. Expect some bad bounces or roll aways. #3, my second shot land right next to the hole, by the time it finished rolling away, well, I had to settle for a frustrating bogey.
- Rocks & slopes can be slippery when wet. Use extreme caution and have good footwear going up and down some of these slopes.
- The last two holes have baskets close to the river. A bad bounce, a shot too far right, a bad roll away, and your round will end on a sour, and wet, note.

Other Thoughts:

I think Fire Sanctuary is a really good course. I'm not sure if the outstanding location and scenery make the course seem better than it is, or if they're overshadowing the course's quality.
- It had been years since I'd drive through Cherokee. I had forgotten how windy and downhill NC-19 into town gets. You are riding your brakes for a good 5-10 minutes. I could smell them when I parked. Good thing it was a rental. For those who don't like mountainy roads, take a couple extra minutes and take NC-74 instead.
- There are three distinctive practice basket locales here. What course has three different baskets for putting? One is up against the river, giving an outstanding view, while also testing your mettle before your round begins. Walking past the baskets, I already could tell this was going to be a good course.
- It is a let down that the juices flowing & excitement you get from the first couple holes run out of steam in the middle of the back 9. It seems like replacing 1-2 holes on the backside would make a world of difference.
- The tee shot, then walk down #9's fairway are delightful. Knowing my disc was safely in the middle of the fairway let me savor the running water 20 feet to my right. Then, I saw how nasty the basket location is, and my enjoyment quickly went away.
- For anyone who's played Stumpy Creek in Mooresville (30 minutes north of Charlotte), you know how the last 3 of this course are wide open. It's an outstanding 15-and-a-half-hole course. I feel the same is true for Fire Sanctuary. At least here, there are 4 better holes to end your round that the mediocrity gets somewhat forgotten.
- Along with Jackson Park, this is the best course west of I-26. It is a haul from Asheville to get here so I get a sense it's going to not get as much attention as Richmond Hill. Shoot, it took me a long time to schedule a trip mainly to play this course.
- It's unfortunate that there isn't anything else in the area that's anywhere close to this quality. It's one great course and a lot of average-esque courses to add to your trip. Now, if you want to include a trip to the casinos, then this could be a very fun trip.
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rustystrings
Experience: 45 played 3 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Beautiful and Brutal drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 26, 2023 Played the course:once

Pros:

Gorgeous and unbelievably scenic. Nice big tee pads. Excellent signage. Well designed overall, with issues....

Cons:

I\'m all about tight wooded courses, but this course would vastly improve with removing a handful of trees on many holes to open up the fairways. It would still be difficult, but allow you to shape your lines. Take WR Jackson as a comp, it\'s very long, very challenging.... but the fairways are actually fair. I\'d say maybe 5-6 holes could be left alone... the rest really need to be thinned. If you\'re off the perfect line by 8", you kick into the rough. I\'d also say the red baskets should be more beginner friendly. This course has nothing to offer beginners. They gave the advanced players covered with the long pins... throw a bone to your casual players.

Other Thoughts:

A beautiful mountain course, yet surprisingly flat minus elevated baskets and tee boxes. Potential to be a 4.5-5 star course with some much needed tweaks.
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SpartanDisc
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Experience: 22.5 years 247 played 28 reviews
5.00 star(s)

An incredibly scenic track, though not for the new or fearful

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 4, 2023 Played the course:once

Pros:

There is so much good to say about this course. Yes, it is tight. Yes, it is hard. Yes, it will humble you. Yes, you will hit a lot of tress. No, it isn't beginner friendly. But also yes, it is a truly amazing gem of a course.

NATURAL BEAUTY – this is one of the most beautiful of the 230 properties I have played disc golf on (KUMM Discgolf Parcours in the Austrian Alps being the only one that immediately comes to mind that I'd put ahead of Fire Mountain). This course winds through a gorgeous forest at the bottom of a mountain tucked into a corner of the gorgeous flowing Raven Fork River. The views of the surrounding mountains and the sounds of the rushing water are incredibly serene. The course was constantly striking our group with new wonders and beauty throughout our round.

AMENITIES & EQUIPMENT – everything here is top notch (with one exception listed in Cons below)
• Tee pads – perfectly sized concrete tees all in perfect shape. They are all very level and clean. If these pads were a disc golf standard on all courses, many courses would greatly benefit
• Baskets – brand new DISCatcher Pro 24s. Brightly painted red and yellow for the various layouts
• Tee signs – very, very well done. They each have Cherokee-based hole names with Cherokee language and a history of the hole theme within the Cherokee culture (such as the significance of the rattlesnake, etc). The maps are great, with distances for each basket option. There are also "next hole" signs that make the course very easy to navigate
• Other – there are very large rocks that have been painstakingly placed in key areas, like around tees as seats or on key parts of the fairways or near baskets. Downed trees have all been moved to line the fairways in key places, creating a clear fairway edge. Stone paths and stairs are very well-made and in great condition. There are benches and tons of tee-pad seating all carved naturally out of giant logs. Overall, just by walking the course, one is blown away by the effort that must have been put into all the small details.
• Practice baskets – I remember at least 2 practice baskets. The first is in a large open area near the road and is in a great location. It has some trees to straddle around, some elevation, but also plenty of open and flat putting opportunities as well. The 2nd practice basket is gorgeous but pretty much useless as it is on an elevated concrete mound just a few feet away from the steep bank down to a raging river. I couldn't imagine anyone actually practice putting here, but it's a gorgeous photo opportunity before your round.

COURSE DESIGN – now for the fun part: how does the course play?
• The course is HARD but extremely fair. To me, this is the epitome of great, challenging woods golf. The lines are tight and accuracy (and distance accuracy) is very key. But the lines through the massively tall trees are there and are very reasonable. The lines might not be huge, but they are reasonable. And while you will be hitting (likely many) early trees, the rough on most of the course is also relatively light of underbrush and very fair. Outside of a few very thick areas, most of the course is very scramble-able and gives you opportunities to redeem a terrible drive with a heroic par (or bogey) save..
• Variety – this course will have you throwing a lot of different shots. Forehands, backhands, overhands, rollers, hyzer-flips, laser beams, forced flex shots, etc. There is a ton of shot-shaping opportunity here. There is a decent amount of elevation that is used very well but don't expect any giant or steep elevation changes (like a "top of the world" shot off a mountain or anything).
• Layouts – while each hole only has a single tee, each has a red and gold basket for varying degrees of difficulty. We played golds and while I didn't play reds, they looked a fair bit easier but still not easy by any means. Reds would be a great mid-level amateur layout that would be very challenging. Golds will challenge top Ams and Pros alike. Unfortunately, there isn't much here for beginners (you're welcome to play, but don't expect an easy day)
• While being a very long course, it is actually very compact and there isn't much walking between holes. And while some holes are very close to each other, they never feel really on top of each other. The design is quite compact and makes full use of the space given.

Cons:

There are very few overall cons I can really think of here. However, a few to nitpick:

DIFFICULTY - The most obvious here is what other reviews I have seen dock a lot of points for on this course: the difficulty
• Is this course very hard? Yes. Is it designed for all skill levels? Not really. Players rated under 900 will struggle here to score. Players under 800 will likely have a very tough time. Very good and great players will be humbled frequently. However, as mentioned above, it is fair and the rough is very "scramble-able". But expect to need to be very accurate even on distance throws. Again, you will be hitting many trees and likely many very early trees. However, as a 940-ish rated player who played doubles here, I LOVED this course. Even when I got punished, I really appreciated what the course was trying to get me to do and had a lot of fun scrambling from my missed shots.
• Also on the difficulty topic is the river. The river is gorgeous and is a great obstacle and ornament IMO. But on a few holes, it is precariously close to the fairway. I loved this risk aspect, but for newer or less skilled players, there are a few areas where the river is tough to avoid, even playing reds. And the river is fast, so do not expect to see a disc again once it gets wet. Again, this isn't a knock on the course or design, but rather more of a warning of what to expect.

COURSE DESIGN – again, I loved this course and its design. But, if there are a few things to nitpick:
• Thick rough on a few holes. This course is new and not fully broken in. Most holes actually seem like they've been there for years and are perfect. However, there are a couple of places where there is very thick brush and a few where it is right around the basket. While this might be a somewhat intentional design that might work on hole 18 (even that could be a bit thick by the basket), I personally would clean up a few of the other areas. Just a few spots feel like you're throwing your disc to a basket that is essentially in a jungle and you're more or less just hoping to get lucky through the thick brush. Though this is maybe 2-3 spots on the whole course.
• Lack of open shots. While this is, IMO, some of the best woods golf you could imagine, it doesn't have any open shot to really power up on. I don't really think this course absolutely needs it, but one open (especially open bomber hole) is usually a nice addition to a woods course. Just to get a break from demanding lines and throw a different type of shot (or take out some frustration).
• Compared to the best of the best courses I've played, there is a bit less decision-making here in terms of risk vs reward. Most holes have a single line, some requiring a very specific but well-executed shot and others providing some interesting options (overstable flex, understable hyzer flip, flipping forehand, etc). So there is decision-making. But compared to courses like Harmony Bends (my current #1), there aren't multiple fairways to pick for the most part and a bit less overall course strategy. I only bring up this criticism because I'm giving this course 5/5 stars, so feel I need to call out this very minor shortfall to some of the other best of the best.

AMENITIES – while what is here is immaculate and perfect, there are two things missing: trash cans and bathrooms. I'm assuming this course doesn't get a ton of traffic, and I'd hope the players that do come here respect the natural beauty so it was very clean. But a few trash cans could be useful (though I could also see why they might not have them due to wildlife considerations and the logistics of managing it). Expect to (and please do) pack out your own trash.

Other Thoughts:

I was expecting a very different experience based on some of the reviews here and on the other platform that shall not be named. I was expecting a very long, hard, and unfair course that would lead to a long, somewhat frustrating round. I was extremely pleasantly surprised by the reality.

Had I been playing singles, especially the first time through this track, it would have been a lot tougher and a bit more frustrating, but I don't think I would have enjoyed it any less. Rather, we had a group of 18 guys for a bachelor party (all probably in the 900-970 rated range) and did random doubles. We had an amazing time and everyone was blown away by the course. I didn't hear a single person complain that it was too hard or that it was unfair.

If you are in the area and like scenic, challenging golf, this is a must play. If you really love wooded golf, this is a destination course you should make every effort to get to play.
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Cerealman
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Experience: 16.4 years 665 played 192 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Swallowing fire on a mountain

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 19, 2022 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Just on the outskirts of the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, the Fire Mountain Disc Golf Sanctuary is an impressive creation that offers fantastic aesthetics, impressive scenery and some of the most difficult disc golf around.

The term sanctuary fits. The course is off the beaten path and you're most likely to hear the rustling of small animals in the woods or the gentle rapids from Raven Fork that is in play on several holes. During the walk to the first hole, there's a bench placed in front of a lovely overlook of the river that divides the trees with the mountains as a backdrop. Upon arriving at the first hole, there's an enormous map with layout and distances for each basket. Strategically placed boulders offer a walkway to the first tee as well as optimal seating at each teepad. Every hole features a detailed sign and a short paragraph related to Cherokee Nation history or folklore. The artistic quality is first class, and it's obvious that much care (and money) was spent to add some excellent touches that contribute greatly to the atmosphere and experience.

Near the parking lot, there are three practice putting areas in the woods with varying levels of elevation and surrounding trees that provide a foreshadowing of the course to come.

The course design is impressive with specific drives required on many holes. Most of the course is fairly flat; however, there are a couple holes that require throwing down a hill. The designer manages to limit the uphill throws by introducing short climbs when walking to the next hole.

Half the holes randomly include a red basket (short but difficult) and a yellow basket (long and more difficult).

Cons:

The course is long. Very long.

The course is narrow. Very narrow.

If you depart from the needlelike fairway, you're probably screwed. You will likely be facing jail-like tree groupings and briars in your quest to return to an open area. I'm nearing 500 courses played, and Fire Mountain is top of my list for most challenging. I played it in December; I shudder to think of the ruthless challenge it serves up in summertime.

The course description says Fire Mountain has "tight but fair fairways." That's balderdash. These fairways aren't fair. There are numerous holes that call for a 350-foot drive without flex but also require navigational skills of a precise fighter pilot in order to dodge the trees sprinkled all over the fairway. Consequently, you won't get to use your whole bag here. In fact, you could bring a putter, your most stable midrange and a couple of fairly straight drivers and be fine. Several of my favorite discs never left my bag during two rounds at Fire Mountain. Even though the course demands distance, it's more imperative to throw straight.

The par of 56 on the short version of 6,300 feet is laughable. As one friend said, they created mostly "tweener" holes but decided on a par-3 designation for all of those. Another friend said the course would be so much better if every hole was 100 feet shorter. That said, even if par was 4 on some of the most difficult holes, it wouldn't increase the fun. Like previous reviewer MellowRob said, pars will feel like birdies.

The walk from the parking lot and putting areas to the start of the course will take nearly 10 minutes.

Fire Mountain is in the middle of nowhere. If you want an easier course to lick your wounds afterward, too bad. The next closest course is about a 40-minute drive away.

Other Thoughts:

There are so many things that Fire Mountain gets right. But the implausible and continuous brutality is such a detriment that it affects my course rating. In many ways, this is a 4.5- to 5.0-rated course. However, I'm deducting an entire point because the extremely narrow fairways lead to a punishing experience that doesn't match the promise and plummets short of its potential.
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Catamount
Experience: 1 played 1 reviews
5.00 star(s)

A championship-level hidden gem 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 30, 2022 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Great tee pads-- 5' x 12' concrete with no drop-offs and perfect texture. Signage everywhere-- beautiful and informative tee signs, lots of "next" signs to direct you to the next pad. Two nice course signs and three putting greens on the property. A sweet pavilion in the middle of the course.

This course has a very natural look and feel. The views of the river are gorgeous. Several greens are located near the river and surrounded by rhododendron. Stone staircases throughout (the one on Hole #1 is spectacular). Huge rocks serve as seating behind the tee pads.

A great mix of lines off the tee-- although a dead-straight, 300 ft. drive will serve you best on many holes. Several Par-4s-- some of them are definitely birdie-able, some are very challenging. Most of the par-3s are loooooong. Two potential ace runs...maybe. Only one hole is under 300 ft.

Cons:

The course is brand new...needs a few years to mature. Builders obviously dealt with some invasive plants by cutting poison ivy vines the size of my arm from trees...and more than a few grape vines. A few years of beating them back will make this course a 5+.

Other Thoughts:

This is definitely a championship-level course. Even the red (short) baskets (there are 9 of them) are challenging. I saw a bull elk that must have been over 700 pounds. He didn't bother me but he scared the crap out of me. The "Watch for Wildlife" signs are real.
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MellowRob
Experience: 21.6 years 89 played 5 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Young championship caliber course that will occasionally brutalize you. 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 25, 2022 Played the course:once

Pros:

Brand new 18 hole championship course in Cherokee area near the Great Smoky National Park, just off 441 at the western terminus of the Blue Ridge Parkway. Course is located adjacent to the Ravens Fork River, and water can come into play on a few of the holes on the back 9. A shelter (with fire pit) in middle of course invites groups to spend the afternoon in the woods near a beautiful flowing river.

3 putting areas near parking at the road, then you access the course area via a 1/4mile or so hike along an access road. Holes are clearly marked and rock landscaping near the tees is wonderful. Lots of "Next Tee" small arrow signs on trees indicating flow. 1 large 5x12 concrete teepad per hole, some holes have 2 pins red(short) and gold(long), and many holes have alternate pins placements gold and red. It can stretch you with tight D if that is your thing.

Cons:

Not really cons, but decided to condense my thoughts on course play itself in this section. The course itself is very young and heavily wooded. The fairways are tight to very tight for the most part. Once the leaves come in, it will get even tighter.

After being pummeled by the dense rough thru the first few holes, I eventually pulled my midrange out and attempted to stay in the narrow fairways as much as possible, with limited success. Many notable holes, tees and pins, but it was all a blur as we were racing darkness and pushed quickly thru the back 9 in an attempt to get all 18 in.

Accuracy is paramount on this course. Get off fairway and you will no choice but to play back to it many times. And you will use every shot style in your arsenal and then some. Troubleshots out of jail were commonplace. Felt like a Paul Bunyan wannabee many times with all of the treesmacks. To quote my playing partner: pars feel like birdies, and birdies feel like eagles on this course.

Other Thoughts:

Overall, this an incredibly challenging and somewhat raw course that has the potential to be world class once it gets broken in and fine tuned a bit. The foundation with the initial install is very solid, and the setting is wild and picturesque to say the least. I gave it a 4/5 based on this room to grow.

Be warned: This course will humble you, frustrate you, and sometimes brutalize you. You may cuss....alot. You may have to get back to the basics and be forced to limit the damage many times. Success is savored here.

In the end, it is an enjoyably rewarding experience to finish and reflect. If you are in the area and want a challenge, this course is definitely your huckleberry.
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