Course:
-Ability to start a round on holes 1, 5, or 10 without much walk from the 2 parking lots
-Single concrete tee with 2 baskets at each hole (newer DD Veterans usually short, old Mach IIIs in alternate positions) so players can choose their layout for the day and mix/match targets if they want.
-Favorite pins: 1E, 2D, 4D, 7C, 9E & F, 10C, 12C & D, 13B & D, 14D, 15D, 16B, 18C & D
-Longer pins are most interesting with some being very challenging par 3s. After getting the Veteran targets in 2020, these pins are in play more now with the second set of targets (old Mach IIIs). Set to the longest par 54 layout can make Rosedale a great challenge to string together a hot round (especially on windy days). Par 4 pins available on holes 4, 8, 16, and 18.
-Short pins can be a quick round (around an hour for solo/pair even with backups) or a good casual round for a mixed skill level group. Generally 1.5-2 hours maximum for 3-4 people.
-Elevation change is subtle on most holes with a lot of the front 9 having drop-offs to the right tree line going towards 'Down under'. Back 9 offers a bit more variety and hazards with OB roads and trees obstructing more of the left sides of fairways. Severe tree kick and roll away possibilities on 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, and 15 could leave players scrambling.
-Road in play/bordering fairway on 13, 14, and 17
-Veteran baskets get moved most weeks for league so playing Up Top can offer variety for locals and visitors from out of town.
-Risk of losing a disc is below average (except in Fall/Winter with the ground cover leaves/snow). With the amount of foot traffic & play Rosedale receives there is a decent chance discs will be found and returned to the lost disc return bin.

Park Amenities:
-Permanent bathrooms near skatepark by hole 1 and newly installed one near softball field by hole 10. Water fountain near hole 10 as well (used to be one near hole 1/tennis courts that got capped - maybe due to COVID precautions)
-Near KC city center, easy course to meetup at with access to/from I-35 at park entrance (Mission Rd)

Navigation/Course flow issues:
-Navigation from hole 3->4 and 15->16 requires walking back up the fairway causing some slight backups
-Navigation from hole 5 left long pin to 6 tee, 11 long right back to 12's tee, and 13 longer tees near street corner back to 14's tee can all cause slight backups when they are being played
-Must cross street between 13/14 and back between 17/18.
-Some pins are missing from tee signs, no indication on tee sign which pins have targets in them.

Safety issues:
-Hole 8 and 12 tees in play from tee shots on hole 7 & 11. Windy conditions are common and new/unfamiliar players often do not realize how close their drives are flying towards those tees.
-Hole 5 pins in line with hole 6 fairway/tee shot, especially when playing hole 6 left pins.
-Some fairways are covered in broken up concrete/gravel (3, 5, 8, 9, 11, 14, 16), careful footing up and down hole 16, visible broken glass on 15 fairway
-Hole 10 tee shots towards pavilion and playground where park goers may be picnicking/playing. Sinkhole in fairway
-old pin locations are still around to cause tripping hazards

Course Layout
-Similar pin positions offer less variety on a few holes. Lack of shot variety especially when playing the short pins
-Some of the greens/landscaping/erosion control maintenance has been neglected. Baskets are mounted too low due to sinking/mulch accumulation around the pins.
-old Mach III practice basket is surrounded by concrete and doesn't match the DD Veterans that are primarily used for competition and casual players.

Rosedale park has a long history being used in many Kansas City Wide Open tournaments and various events throughout the years. Many of the KC club members have offered up time to maintain and keep the course accessible to the community and players of all skill levels.
-Rosedale Up Top underwent a redesign around 2015 which altered the flow on a number of holes and added current hole 10 and 16. No longer playing alongside backyards for 16 & 17.
-Busy after work/school hours (4pm-sunset) and on weekends midday through the evening.
-Leagues on multiple weeknights during the summer, glow league later in the year (park doesn't close after dark).
-High level of traffic means the park requires a lot of maintenance/upkeep. Some holes with erosion/soil control problems. Attempts to grow new trees in open fairways have had limited success.
-Rain brings long grass and mud to some of the low-lying fairways (4, 5, 10, 11, 14)
-2 courses in the same park offer a good variety of park/wooded golf
-Shared multi-use park with pavilion/picnic tables, playground, skatepark, tennis courts, 1 fenced baseball/softball field & 1 open baseball/softball/soccer field (useful for fieldwork), and trails joined up to the Rosedale trail system (many dog walkers). This can make parking a challenge during different parts of the year.
-Dynamic Discs KC store up the street where lost discs return bin goes (2-3 month holding then donated)

Kansas City's original disc golf course. While it's obviously an older park-style course just remember that this course is less than a year younger than the Aviar itself. There have been improvements over time to keep the course from getting stuck in the '80s, and those help it stand up to some of the newer designs.

A concrete tee with a color tee sign at each. Every hole has a DD Veteran in a shorter position, and a MachIII in a longer position. I say "a" position because each hole has a minimum of three pin positions, and some have as many as seven (Hole 8). Four holes (4, 8, 10, and 18) have a third basket, Hole 8's rotates through the three spots on the island green, while the other three are set in the respective hole's longest positions.

The course keeps away from other park users well on most holes (the road on 13/14 and tennis courts on 18 being the exception).

Hidden challenge near some of the greens: Holes 1-7 all play near the drop-off to the Down Under course, and there are several pins (1D/E, 2C, 3C, 4E, 5D, 7B) that are right near the precipice (this also comes up in Cons). Add to this the hard dogleg greens on 11, and the green up the stairs on 14 (you read it right) and you have much more than a round of put-your-brain-in-neutral-and-get-birdies.

The tunnel of 3 remains on of my favorite holes in the area. To the shorter pins it's a fairly simple toss, to the longer two it's a well-controlled fairway driver shot that needs to stop short of the edge of the woods or you're in for a rough time. Precise tee shots are also necessary on 4, 8, 9, 12, 15, and 16 with their tree gaps from the tee,

While having multiple pin placements is nice, some don't change the course that much. Several holes are just a cluster of baskets and your drive will be much the same shape no matter where the basket sits

While the challenge of playing near the drop-off to Down Under adds value, it also adds danger to those playing down there. No, they're not mole people, they just like more technical golf.

Some of the older equipment is beat to tar. Some pads are missing corners (14). Several of the MachIIIs have popped welds and the ultra-long on 18 is destined for the scrap metal pile at some point soon.

There are several uninspired holes (1, 2, 10, 17) that feel stuck in place to make it 18 holes. There was limited space to work with, but these come up lacking when compared to some of the better holes (3, 14).

This course is always busy since it's near the Dynamic Discs store. This has the negative effect of clogging up the fairways, tee pads, and parking lot. Which leads into parking; parking here sucks. Not enough parking for the volume of park users on a weekend and the spaces that are there are extremely small.

Since the park is so close to the store it's frequented by newer players, which is a good thing, but you may end up stuck behind a really, really slow group for a few holes which is a bad thing. This course is also a common spot for larger groups and even some mob golf. Fortunately most groups will have an experienced player or two that will make sure you get played through.

Having a park with two courses is nice, but the skill gap between the two leaves Up Top extremely busy, which is the main detractor for an otherwise decent course. As I tell people coming to KC, play Up Top for a classic, easier round; play Down Under for a difficult, wooded round; and either way get some Joe's BBQ down the street when you're done.

Rosedale makes for a pretty casual round, featuring tons of pin placements that add a lot of variety and has holes that give opportunities to air it out, even on medium-length holes, most of which still finish in or near some trees.

This course provides a challenge for everyone. The fairways aren't too wooded, so beginners won't be frustrated like they would on Down Under, and there's a handful of extra baskets (on 4, 8, and 18) you can play to for par 4 longer hole that provide more challenge for advanced players.

There's a few low ceilings (3, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16) which add a nice addition to the bomber holes. Others have a straight low ceiling line and wider open lines that sometimes throw over the trees.

Work gets put into this course on a regular basis. In the last few years, there has been a handful of new tees, all new signs, mulch, and a minor redesign that adds the very good hole 16 and stays clear of bordering backyards. Because of all this, the flow is pretty good, apart from backtracking after holes 3 and 16.

Pretty flat, elevation wise. If you get off the fairways, you're going down a drop-off, but it only punishes the bad shots more while still providing only a small amount of challenge for everything else. They also create a lot of lost disc opportunities, even if you know exactly where it entered the woods. While every hole is different, there's not significant difference, like right-to-left and left-to-right holes. The woods are on the right most of the time, rewarding RHFH/LHBH shots.

No real standout holes, because of what's described above. But at the same time, only a few holes (10, 17) are completely boring.

There's lousy, old baskets, a tennis court that gets in the way of some of 18's pins, bleachers on 9, and a road on several holes on the back nine. It all adds to the feeling that this is an adequate, but mediocre course.

This is a really busy course most of the time. There are also a few other attractions in the park that the course avoids, so the parking lots are usually full. Down Under gets much less traffic.

As the title suggests, there's not a lot bad about the course, but also nothing to make me like this course above a lot of others I've played. It's never a bad option to stop at, but you won't walk away feeling like you experienced something epic.

There's some rocks on some holes, especially near the drop-offs at the woods. They mean you have to be careful how your disc is coming in, but be ready for odd skips.

There holes with open fairways that let you just air it out but then there are also holes that require a bit more accuracy and technique. A lot of people seem to be afraid of hole 16 with the narrow fairway that dips into a valley but that is probably my favorite hole. It requires accuracy while still allowing you to let it fly.

Some of the early holes aren't very forgiving of errant throws with some pretty steep drop-offs, especially hole 3 and 6.
The fairway for hole 17 seem to hold water for quite a while after it rains. Also, this hole runs along the road into the park making it a bit dangerous for car windows when the park is extremely busy.

Overall, I love this course. The layout makes it fun for any level player. The course has been very busy each time I have played, which can be a downside but it shows that this really is a good course.

You can usually tell a lot about the local disc golf scene by;

1. The overall general condition of the course, ie. litter, benches, trash cans, navigational aids, brooms, bag holders, etc.
2. The beginning staging area.

The Top course at Rosedale Park starts beside the tennis courts. Here you will find:
picnic tables, a course donation box, a disc return box, a kiosk with posters and league information for each Kansas City area disc golf course. Yes, I can safely proclaim that this an active club here.

The course starts right beside the tennis courts and finishes just on the other side of those courts. Holes have anywhere from three to six basket placements and I saw no way of knowing position the basket is in. The pads are nice sized concrete. Signs are your basic fiberglass type. I could do without all the stickers plastered on everything. The baskets are older Mach II's. This course has this professional park benches. They are vandal proof. Oh, Oh! Some super strong, aggressive teen somehow trashed on of these benches on one hole.

The course features lots of places to throw some big air and generally seems to play fairly long. It has a nice combination of open and wooded, more technical holes. Also a nice variety of straight, hyser and routes needing an anhyser throw. I can't recall any one hole that stood out as a signature type hole. Just a lot of solid fun throws.

There is not a long list of Cons for the Top course.

Visiting players all mention the lack of next tees signs. After playing Harmony Bends with it's excellent next tee signs, every other course falls short in that regard.

The route after hole 3 tends to lead to confusion amongst us road trippers. There were not many locals playing today so I didn't always have local groups to follow.

Top needs a washer system like Albert Oakland has. It's cheap, easy to implement and so very helpful to not only visiting players, but locals too.

When you combine both courses here, you have 36 holes of varied, competitive disc golf. I'd say that Kansas City players have a fairly nice contingent of courses to choose and the active club seems to be on top of things. I'm suitably impressed. Now can the club do anything about the electrical storms that are raising hell with my October road trip!

Rosedale Park is a Kansas City favorite. My first day was to play Up Top first and then Down Under another day. Both visits saw a lot of locals. There was a waiting line to tee off at #1.

The layout uses the park's open areas well that are adjacent to the thick woods on the edges, which are the upper edge of parts of Down Under. The basket placements are strategically woven into the trees.

I like number 3, which is entirely in the woods and you are throwing 233 ft to a blind basket to the right in the woods at the top of a hill. This was a perfect shot for my RHFH. I skipped it, hit chains, then ended up down the slope in the woods. A little further down the hill and I would have been Down Under.

Hole 14 is a nice dogleg to the left to a blind basket in a recessed area. Hole 15 is a tight line next to the woods. I grip locked and never found my disc in that thicket. Hole 16 is the signature hole. It is 350 ft, so not too long, but the path takes you over an open fairway that leads to a line through the woods that will punish you if you don't get through since there's a 50 foot drop you've got to get over.

One of the locals I played with told me that the park was not safe many years ago since it was the home of many Kansas City vices (e.g. gangs and drugs). But the disc golf culture has changed the park atmosphere and the conversion is a success story. This is the hope for Elysian Park - Buena Vista Hill, a new course in Los Angeles, which will hopefully change that park's atmosphere.

Navigation could be better since there are no next tee signs. With a map and many locals around this is not a big problem.

When you finish the third hole you need to walk back up the third fairway to get to the 4th tee. This seemed so odd to me that I went into the woods and down the hill a little to avoid the fairway and I ended up on the Down Under course, which has different color baskets to help you differentiate.

I was surprised to see the description for Rosedale Top as the highest point in Kansas City. I just posted a review of Blue Valley Park and I said it was the highest point in K.C. since someone told me that. Blue Valley Park definitely feels higher than Rosedale, but I checked and here's the actual elevations:

Rosedale Park- 296m
Blue Valley Park Short - 283m
Blue Valley Park Pro - 276m
Water Works - 274m

So I stand to be corrected, but Blue Valley Park is more open and feels higher.

Dynamic Discs has a nice factory outlet store at 2866 W 47th St, which is less than one mile from Rosedale Park and serves like a pro shop for Rosedale. They have a sheet of paper, which is worth your stop, that breaks down all the courses in the Kansas City area. It'd be a shame to be so close to a factory outlet and not check it out. I thought this was a nice benefit to these two excellent Rosedale courses. And they return lost discs that are turned in.

If you like disc golf, which I'm pretty sure you do or you wouldn't be reading this, then you will want to visit Rosedale Park when in Kansas City. If you're newer to the sport or not up the challenge of Down Under then stay Up Top and you'll have fun. If you're brave and have time then play both.

I struggled on the rating. It is a very good course, which is a 3.5 rating. But it does not have the challenges of Down Under, which I rated as excellent, or 4.0. And Water Works I rated as Phenomenal, or 4.5. If you think I'm unfair in my rating or want to give me pointers on how to write more helpful reviews then please send me a note.

Awesome design, scenery, baskets, maintenance, challenge. It's everything you would want in a park course. Very well marked. Had a great time playing this before it started raining cutting my round short.

Finding my way around was a touch challenging but not too bad. Locals are very friendly.

Enjoy!

I played Rosedale Down Under last year, and being in the same park as the Top course will go as a major pro. Two great courses in one stop. The Top course is wonderful and deserves the nice rating it has.

It is par 54. The more open holes often have some extra length, while the shorter holes involve steering your drives around trees. There are holes that can yield birdies, and holes that take a well placed second shot to have a good chance at making par. Elevation changes are not usually drastic, but there are a couple of good size hills. Trees are not as prevalent as Down Under, but the woods are heavy enough in places to create fairly tight lines along the fairways.

The tee pads are concrete and oversized, very roomy. There are tee signs, and good baskets. Course layout makes great use of the available park space.

My favorite holes are 3, 5, and most of all 14. 3 is the first dip into the woods, with a pin tucked away on the right side at the end of a fairway lined with trees on each side. 5 features a low area between the tee and the basket, with clusters of trees along the fairway and near the pin. I did get a great drive and made a birdie on this one. 14 is the largest downhill run, and has a many mature trees with branches reaching out from all sides trying to knock down disc. If you make it to the flat at the bottom of the hill you are in good position for the approach, but getting to the pin from the tee takes a monster drive.

After hole 3 the path doubles back along the left side of the fairway. The path is fairly well worn, but it took me a minute to make sure I was going the right way. There are other places where the transitions cross roads. A copy of the map may prove to be useful.

The course was full of disc golfers when I visited, as it was one of the first good weather days of the year. Use caution not to throw toward others on the fairway ahead of you. I came a little close to the group ahead of me on hole 14, and they let me hear about it. Rightfully so, as I should know better. I really got more distance than I expected on my drive, and it skipped to a stop about twenty feet away from one of them. I apologize again if they happen to read this review.

The Top of Rosedale Park is a lot of fun. If the drives are good and the putts are falling, you may even get under par. It takes consistent shot making to get there. Wind can complicate things on many of the open holes.

I shot a 55 to finish at one over par. That is not bad for me, especially on my first round at this course. I did miss a couple of makable putts. Birdies on hole 5 and 11 were outweighed by the bogies on holes 2, 15, and 16.

If you spend a few days around KC checking out the disc golf scene, Rosedale should be near the top of the list for sure. Both courses would easily be in my top 10 for the area.

His is my first play through of this course and it wasn't too bad. All of the tee pads were concrete and there was hole signage at each tee pad to show the hole shape and each basket placement. Most holes had at least 3-4 basket placements which is great but sometime hard to see where the basket is. This may be because I'm playing in December and everything is dead.

I like that on most of the holes even if your tee shot is a little far left or right, typically your second shot will still be an ok setup shot to get you close for a par. Something I haven't seen at any other disc golf course is large colored flags on top of the basket with the hole number to help find the baskets. Another good thing is that you can almost see all of the baskets from the tee pads which makes it clear where you're supposed to shoot.

Lots of mature trees that make for fun technical shots throughout the course. Good baskets and having multiple placements makes for a fun course to play more than once.

I found that there is quite a lot of rocks throughout the fairways and greens which can really eat up some discs if you were to play this course regularly. I wish there were more hazards other than mature trees to help with more difficult tee shots. I haven't played Rosedale under but I've heard that it is a little more difficult with window shots. I was hoping to get a little of that on Rosedale top other than hole 16 which is very cool and has you tee off having to split a medium ceiling/medium window tree gap to get to the basket.

I wish that there was signage at the end of each hole to help guide you to the next as it was hard for me to navigate sometimes. Luckily the locals are nice and had one play through with me to help guide me through.

I was told that this is a good course during the day but it is a sketchy place during the evening and night and would not really want to go over there after 5pm probably.

Overall this course seems to be an all around well set course that is mostly open with lots of big trees and multiple basket locations. Also, this park has a good amount of parking, porta-pottys (which is better than no bathrooms), tennis courts, baseball fields and other attractions beyond a decent disc golf course. I will be coming back to play this course again in 2018 when it gets warmer for sure.

Every tee has a nice tee pad all had some kind of seating around and a trash can.

Bathrooms close by, along with a shelter not far from the first hole and a number of benches by the first pin, which is awesome if you are meeting up with a group.

Nice signage showing the multiple pin locations, normally 3 different placements, didn't have the ability to show current placement.

The majority of shots are going to be the most challenging and you can tackle the shots in a variety of way. The front nine, will have many wide open shots, not HUGE holes, but decent. Being a LHBH player, the back nine is perfect of my game, as the majority of holes have a sit to the right from the tee.

In the past two years, the course has seen some changes in flow (between 9 and 10) and trees have been planted on 10 making it a very good looking hole.

I wouldn't say there is a staple hole, but this course is fantastic for beginners.

Course is at a public park that has other users which makes it very challenging to find good parking. They only have two small lots and if there are softball or kickball games those will fill up very quickly. None of the holes really bring the fields into play, so you shouldn't have anyone walking through fairways.

Decent course, not the best area, but the local disc golf club is very good at keep the course up to date.

This is one of the courses that rotates through my course selection I really enjoy the course to practice different kind of shots for more challenging courses.

The top course at Rosedale Park offers a contrasting and challenging complement to its Down Under counterpart. While the Down Under course features tight lines and technical challenges, the Top course provides ample opportunities to "let 'em rip."

Some of the best signage I've ever seen. The map at each teepad is colorful and detailed (though it wasn't always clear which pin position was being used).

An ever-changing course. Each hole has multiple possibilities for pin locations - for example, Hole #8 boasted SEVEN possible spots for the basket. In fact, the basket to Hole #6 was uprooted and moved by a gentleman in a pickup truck as my playing partner and I stood on the teepad, instantly making the hole longer.

The top course also offers an excellent opportunity for beginner and intermediate players to work on their accuracy and upshots/long putts. Precise driving will be required to garner many birdies.

Two of the holes (Hole #3 and #15) require walking back down the fairway after completing the hole. These holes could result in some congestion if the course is crowded.

A lack of variety in spots. While the back nine offers some gratifying elevation changes, the front nine is mainly flat with not much variance in hole distance.

The photos (from 2009) need updating. Several holes appeared to have been recently changed, including a modification on the back nine that resulted in much better flow and hole design.

The top course at Rosedale is an enjoyable challenge that is easy to traverse and less susceptible to previous precipitation. Combining the Top course with the Down Under course will result in a diverse and pleasurable 36-hole experience.

Long Teepads
Good Sinage
Lots of locals to help
Dynamic Discs down the street
Lost disc return
Cool drop offs for challenging holes

Poor navigation (hole 3) and others
Lots of rocks for possible chunks taken out of cheap discs
Personal preference but the baskets don't catch well for my spin putt

Good course, I perfer Water Works though
Needs to be longer with par 4s

Nicely laid out course. Good change of hole length and some elevation change. The baskets are moved frequently. The park is mowed and taken care of.

There are a couple huge drop offs just past the baskets on the first four holes.

We've played it once but we'd like to go back again. Hopefully when it's warmer out.

Location and the fact there is a second course on site is this courses best feature.

A never ending supply of pin positions.

Mediocre signage, nice tee pads, and benches on most holes.

acceptable variety in distance, but I did not find as strong of a variety in shots required and the long holes were wide open.

17 had a nice elevated tee.

No navigational aids I got lost at one point and wound up on the other course.

a truck was parked directly behind hole 9 making the hole impossible to finish safely.

10 and 11 were parallel with each other, 2 groups could easily be throwing on each others fairways, especially when 11's basket curls to the left behind hole 10's tee.

Hole 12's basket was just feet from the road.

Hole 16 played very close to property lines. 17 was also parallel with property lines.

you had to walk right over another tee pad to get to hole 18, which has a steep hill on right that goes directly to a very busy road. It is heavily protected by trees, but I still had one of my attempts hit a tree and roll all of the way down the road into the busy road.

There are a few opportunities for disc loss. I spent 25-30% of my time looking for discs in brush or high grass. I did not lose any though.

Back 9 does not offer much shade during hot weather. Holes are mostly wide open.

Lots of vandalism.

I was wishing I had played the other course on the property.

More pins, does not make a better course. The money put into these pins could have been put into far better use. There was no reason for 6 pin positions when many are just 10-15 feet apart.

If you play this course during the midwest championships and disagree, shoot me a PM and we can discuss it before the anonymous thumb. A thumbsdown means this was unhelpful, not that you are pissed I rated the course low.

Tees are nice with benches at most.

Right side holes.

Clean park. Nice tees. Benches at most holes. Most holes bend right right or have obstacles on left. close to Oklahoma Joe's. Plenty of parking.

Great layout all over Rosedale Park! I didn't leave feeling like they could have done more with the land they had. It snaked nicely between woods and open spaces, with more emphasis on open. Nothing ridiculously long, but lots of interesting holes to keep the game moving.

Several of the fairways and approaches have steep dropoffs that will severely punish a bad drive. There's a good amount of risk/reward and I thought the elevation changes were used very well.

Benches and concrete teepads at every hole, which is nice. Frequent trash cans and there were bathrooms at the beginning of the course.

Very pretty scenery for most of the course. With the exception of a few holes that play very close to Mission Road and some backyards, it was a very pretty play this fall.

This course makes good use of the land it has. I didn't feel it was lacking in any way, or that the designers could have done anything better really.

While this course is one of KC's oldest (I believe second oldest, built in 1984), it didn't feel too terribly dated or anything. I think the local club has done a good job adding pin positions and the like to keep things interesting.

I never got bored on this course. While it's fairly open in most parts, there are some tight shots, and the elevation changes mean you have to be careful with your drives or you'll end up having your disc roll down a hill.

Nicely spread out for the most part, only a couple holes play close to each other and even then it's not a huge deal (10-11 come to mind). Nothing like fellow older course Swope Park.

There is a whole other course you can play here -- more on that later, but it exists and is also 18 holes.

The navigation generally makes sense and isn't hard to follow. On 9, watch for the staircase on the right that leads you down to 10. On 3, you have a tiny path near the fairway you can take to get to 4. That's about all as far as tricky areas go if I remember right.

I tend to grade courses partly by how memorable the holes are the night after I've played. 3, 4, 8, 10, 11, and 15 all stood out to me, especially 3 -- might be my favorite hole on the course. That's a tight shot done right.

Very few blind shots. You have to shoot well on most shots, but if you're a beginner, just take it easy and focus on throwing straight, and you'll do just fine.

Multiple pin positions keep things very interesting, sometimes changing the par of the hole -- more on these later though.

I read multiple reviews complaining about the trash level on the course, but it seemed under control when I was there in mid November. Might not always be like this, of course.

What is up with the GRAFFITI everywhere?! Seriously, it's on everything. Benches, trash cans, baskets, tees, signs, everywhere. Not sure if it's from fellow DGers who think it's cool (it's not) or those in the surrounding area. This isn't really that bad of an area in relative terms so I'm not sure what's going on.

The course sees a ton of use; while it was fairly slow when I was there on an overcast Monday in November, I could tell it's well traveled. Not that the grass is all trampled or anything, but you can definitely tell it sees some use and you might have to be patient on a weekend or a sunny day.

The signs are getting a bit faded and could use an update. Also, there's no markers for which pin position is active. That's an issue because...

...okay, the pin positions on this course are a bit ridiculous. I saw a couple holes with 7 or even 8 pin placements. I mean, I like having two or maybe three, but it gets a little pointless when they're literally a few feet away from each other. There's not a lot of blind shots in the current positions, but some of the others could get irritating.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the fact that 16 and 17 play right along fenced yards, many of which have either unfriendly dogs or huge "NO TRESSPASSING" signs. Clearly the neighbors are not amused at DGers traipsing into their yards to get discs. Granted you would have to hit a pretty bad shot for this to be an issue, but it happens and it definitely made me play these holes more conservatively than I'd have liked.

Rosedale is very centrally located and easy to get to from almost anywhere in the Metro. Take I-35 south of downtown (or north of Johnson County) to the Mission Road/Southwest Blvd exit, and head south on Mission Road. The park is on your right after about a mile.

I was surprised to see so many reviewers mention the neighborhood. I mean, the Rosedale neighborhood of KCK isn't fantastic or upscale by any means, but it's no war zone and don't forget, it's just a few blocks north of Johnson County. Besides, it's an urban park. I wouldn't want to wander around ANY urban park after nightfall. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think if you lock up your car you should be fine. If you won't play here due to the "neighborhood", that totally cuts out Swope, Blue Valley, and Kessler park too. Keep your head on a swivel (as you should do in ANY large city), and enjoy the game. You should be fine.

Overall, this is a very fun course that players of all skill levels can enjoy for different reasons. Good maintenance (minus graffiti) and a good layout are key here. Beginners can enjoy an established course they won't totally bomb at; experts can enjoy a trip down memory lane seeing how the game has progressed since the 80s. Happy discing in KCK!

It is a fun course, easy to locate. The holes are very well laid out and finding your line is pretty easy once you get a feel for the course.

When the course is recently mowed, it is beautiful. There is a lot of variety on this course. I have found that every hole has potential for par, birdies are attainable with great drives. Ace runs on about 3-4 holes depending on pin placement.

Sometimes it gets kind of busy, but I have never found that to be a real problem. Other than that, I really wish that people would pick up their trash and keep the course a little cleaner- but I don't blame this all on disc golfers. The park is fairly busy by many people in the area

I love the people. There is always a great group of guys to sit and visit with around hole one. This is by far the most social course in the entire city, which makes it one of the greatest courses to play in the city. It makes taking a little bit of an extra drive worth while when you can sit and visit with Charlie and Gabby.

Very easy to navigate. Offers a variety of pin locations, distances, hole types, and shot selections. The course is well kept and maintained. It is in a multi-use park, but the course works around that quite well. Tee boxes are cement and there are hole signs and benches at each.

OB here can be very unforgiving on most holes, you'll either go down a giant hill in the woods or into someone's back yard. I suppose you could risk the attack dog and getting shot at to retrieve your disc from the yards, but let's face it man, that disc is gone. That being said, the neighborhood around the park isn't the greatest, so go during the day and not at 2:30 in the morning.

I used to play this course after work and never had a problem while I was there. Aside from 1 lost disc, I enjoy my experience everytime I go there. This is a tournament-worthy course and hosts them every year.

Nice variety of open, wooded, short and long holes. Well marked and easy to navigate

Played here in the 2009 World's. Kansas City probably has the best collection of DG courses in the world and this is one of the reasons why.

Great mapping
Tee Maps
Clear path to each tee/basket
Great layout/course plan

Looks a little older but well kept
Some of the tee maps are faded - expected over time
Some tees have all the marked baskets and others have one of many, unclear

I admit that I only played this top course and didn't have time to finish yet. Though I have a hard time finding any negatives for this course. Impressed with the level of deatail and the great layout to cover 18+ baskets (x2+). I can't wait to go back and finish this course and play the lower course as well. So far, the upper course is impressivly balanced and flexible for just about all types of play and ranges. Proximity to Oakie Joes is great too, and they sell discs!!!