Leopard Question

[DGfan68]

I like to build various bags with each one only using one specific manufacturer and compare how they compete with each other. I am currently building an Innova only bag and my current focus is the Leopard. I understand the Leopard is an understable disc, but can be used in many different ways depending on release, power, and the type and weight of plastic. Within the realm of the Leopard, can you experts please tell me which three plastics and weights would cover understable, stable and over stable? (Again, within the Leopard spectrum.) I have a couple of DX 150 class I found used and have been tinkering with them so I have some frame of reference. Thanks

[Aim For The Chains]

Champ 170+g = OS

Star/pro 165-170g will get understable with a little use

The 150dx you have for US.

[DGfan68]

That is exactly the kind of info I was looking for, thanks. It gets very expensive buying and trying.

[BogeyNoMore]

Aim nailed it... just in case you were looking for a 2nd opinion prior to making a purchase.

[Aim For The Chains]

That is exactly the kind of info I was looking for, thanks. It gets very expensive buying and trying.

Just keep working with your discs. The leopard is great from 150'- 400' and many other discs out there work just as well. I throw an MVP relay that is like my "star leopard" but comes down to learning good technique vs more equipment.

Good luck! Just pair a heavy premium plastic leo with your DX for now.

[august dupree]

Aim is pretty much right on here.

Definitely look at the Pro Leo at around 170 as a compliment to a Champ. The Pro starts off pretty much stable and becomes gently understable with a little use and stays that way for a good while. If you read up on the Leo on this board you will find a LOT of love for the Pro Leo. The 150 Dx would cover even more US shots and hyzer flips while the Pro is seasoning.

Heavy Champ Leo3 and a g* Leo3 would also create a similar pairing but a little bit more distance/speed (speed 7 vs. speed 6). I am very fond of the newer Leo3 personally.

[DGfan68]

Sounds good guys, thanks again. :thmbup:

[SD86]

Champ 170+g = OS

Star/pro 165-170g will get understable with a little use

The 150dx you have for US.

Steel on target.

By the way, since the OP is thinking of Leopards, think about a Leopard3 as well...

[Keller]

The G* Leopards are nice too for the middle stability slot. I've replaced the Pro with them. The last few Pro's I've had were really slick and with the shallow rim were a little difficult for me to grip.

[esdubya]

Is there any replacement for the CE Leopard? Mine are too valuable to throw now, sadly. I guess I throw a beat-up champ Teebird there now, but wondering of any of the newer released plastics come close.. Leopard3?

[august dupree]

Heavy Champ Leo3 start off pretty darn stable. But the plastic won't feel like CE. Pearly pinnacle Patriot is your best bet for replacing a CE Leo IMHO.

[BuzzzChief]

Agree, I sold off my stash of CE Leo's and switched to Patriots.

[tbird888]

I'd try a heavier Leopard for US and hit some trees with it. That 150 will get pretty insanely flippy pretty fast.

[mgamache8]

Get a pro leopard

[mgamache8]

I found some that are grippier like star

[zmannz1984]

I was a pro leo thrower for a long time, but now I have switched to the leopard3. My flat star 170 is flat, super understable and easy to throw and the champ glow is finally losing the sharp fade it had. Secret about pro leopards though: order factory seconds from dgu store. They have some sweet older runs piled up and the plastic feels good and takes hits really well.

[Jules B]

Is there any replacement for the CE Leopard? Mine are too valuable to throw now, sadly. I guess I throw a beat-up champ Teebird there now, but wondering of any of the newer released plastics come close.. Leopard3?

My leopard 3 flies straight and its way harder to flip in star plastic to me at first and takes a while to get even kind of flippy.

I find the light (150) DX leopard to be super flippy especially after a few rounds.

[joecoin]

Just keep working with your discs. The leopard is great from 150'- 400' and many other discs out there work just as well. I throw an MVP relay that is like my "star leopard" but comes down to learning good technique vs more equipment.

Good luck! Just pair a heavy premium plastic leo with your DX for now.


I'd like to see a Leopard get thrown 400'.

[kevdiv48]

I'd like to see a Leopard get thrown 400'.

Not far fetched at all. With a ceiling and slight tailwind it can definitely be done.

[mgamache8]

David Wiggins Jr. Throws his JK Aviars 400ft, so...

[tbird888]

I've seen Leopards thrown 400' by multiple people. What's the big deal?

[kinger]

G* is $ for hyzer flip turnovers....

[rakamkram]

David Wiggins Jr. Throws his JK Aviars 400ft, so...

Looking at the history of the world distance records on the PDGA website and seeing that Dave Dunipace threw a Wham-O/DGA Midnight Flyer 41 over 450 ft in 1980, I'm not sure which one to be more impressed by. I think there's a pretty sweet videos of GG throwing Aviars for distance that was really fun to watch too.

[Streets]

I'd like to see a Leopard get thrown 400'.

I've seen it as well. Very impressive. Glow Champion Leopard, hole 9, Trails DGC. Local pro. Awesome shot.

[joecoin]

Not far fetched at all. With a ceiling and slight tailwind it can definitely be done.

Not saying it's far fetched, I'm saying I'd like to see it. Because I know I'll never be able to do it myself.

[joecoin]

I've seen Leopards thrown 400' by multiple people. What's the big deal?

The big deal (to me) is that I haven't seen it.

Maybe you got a video to share?

[tbird888]

The big deal (to me) is that I haven't seen it.

Maybe you got a video to share?

I wish I did. The throwers have been bagging them forever and just crush them. I really do not like the feel of the crease in the wing so I never really gave them a serious chance, but seeing them bomb them makes me want to get over the feel.

[august dupree]

For what it's worth, I've seen guys mash Patriots out to around 400'. Does that count?

[bhadella]

That one guy with his name on the Leopard seems to throw them pretty well.

[corin_brown]

I like to build various bags with each one only using one specific manufacturer and compare how they compete with each other.

Yeah, I like my Leo (175g Champion), get one, but I couldn't really get past the first sentence of your post, which I find endlessly intriguing:

1) so each bag you own carries discs from a different maker?

2) why?

3) how many different bags have you built so far?

4) how many different bags do you plan to build?

5) are you conducting some kind of elaborate research project?

6) will you be publishing some kind of paper or recording a video that reveal your findings?

[Snap-it]

I've seen Leopards thrown 400' by multiple people. What's the big deal?

LOL...same here.

[Snap-it]

Not saying it's far fetched, I'm saying I'd like to see it. Because I know I'll never be able to do it myself.

DX, Pro, and Star Leopards really get up and go! Haven't tried G*.

[Jules B]

I field practice on lunch a few days a week. I throw my star leopard 3 300ft + pretty constantly. I've only been playing for 6 months, so someone weight a larger arm or better technique could easily get 400.

Dx leopard are hyzer flip and roller machines after a little use. The star leopard 3 needs to be beat pretty well before it begins to flip up.... Which takes forever! But then it stays in a sweet spot for a very long time, unless you play disc golf in a parking lot..lol

[Snap-it]

I field practice on lunch a few days a week. I throw my star leopard 3 300ft + pretty constantly. I've only been playing for 6 months, so someone weight a larger arm or better technique could easily get 400.

Dx leopard are hyzer flip and roller machines after a little use. The star leopard 3 needs to be beat pretty well before it begins to flip up.... Which takes forever! But then it stays in a sweet spot for a very long time, unless you play disc golf in a parking lot..lol

You must have freakish Star Leopard(s).

Thought you've only been playing 6 months?

[wims]

He's talking about the Leopard3, I believe it's more stable than the original leopard

[Snap-it]

Sorry, brainlock...how did I miss that? :(

[Jules B]

Sorry, brainlock...how did I miss that? :(

Yeah, the Star leopard 3 is way more stable than the Leopard. I can beam it flat and straight through tight gaps. The original leopard is way more overstable to me.