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mas30066 09-28-2022 09:27 PM

*Than. Even the new phone believes (firmly) that I have a speech impediment. Thinking about wiping everything but the center text on the Vanishes, but I'll sit with the stamp for a few days first.

Kp0c 10-01-2022 12:45 PM

Interesting indeed, I see you quite like the Uplink :P. Does it hold up alright in a bit a wind?

As for my mid set up, I ended up buying a few discs from a local retailer (nothing like going through a stack of the same mold to pick the best feeling one!) to replace my now OOP Axis/Vector combo. I bought 2 neutron Hex, a Matrix and a Reactor.

I played 2-3 rounds and did 2-3 small field work session since, and I must say the Neutron Hex is a really nice flyer. It seems to be a perfect Axis replacement. To me, it's more comfortable in the hand, seems to fly a bit faster than an Axis, handles power very well (relative to my power anyway) and can be shaped quite nicely. I tested low line tunnel shot up to 240' or so and the Hex was perfect for that.

I didn't quite test the Matrix and Reactor enough though to figure out if they will complement the Hex or just be redundant. I have to find a way to throw them a little more to figure it out. Might have to leave the Hex out of the bag for a week just to force me to throw the other 2. I'm definitely looking at bagging a mid that's more OS than the Hex, so hoping the Matrix or Reactor will fill that slot, but I'm thinking I should have probably skipped either the Matrix or the Reactor to get something more OS to have wider spread covered.

And now, I must say I'm quite intrigued with the Uplink! It's definitely on my next purchase list. I'm a LHBH dominent thrower, so turnovers are definitely important for my game, and I realize I don't quite have anything US in my current set up. The Uplink will probably be perfect for my US mid spot.

As for US fairway drivers (speed 6 to 9ish), I don't see anything in the MVP/Axiom lineup that I want. I love the Crave (bought a few with the Hex and they fly great) and I'm sure a beat up Crave will feel amazing, but in the meantime, I'd really love an US fairway that I can throw on a small hyzer and just have it flip a little bit past flat and just drift the whole flight. I'm eying the Streamline Ascend for that. I'm gonna search the forum for other's experience with it, hopefully it's positive. I can get the Crave to drift for quite a bit on a flat release, but I have to juice it a little, and it still has a bit of fight at the end. I'm hoping the ascend allows me to finesse it a little bit and still get some nice anhyzer lines.

I also bought two Insanity (159g and 17xg, both Plasma). I've only thrown them a couple of times, and although I can get some turn out of them, I can tell they won't flip as much as I'd like for the time being (I'm sure improving my form and getting more power would help make them more US for me - Max distance is probably around 375' for now). I also think my release isn't quite right them just yet, might have to adjust my grip or something. I thought they'd feel just like my Tesla, but not sure it's quite the case. Need more testing I suppose. I've looked in the MVP network for a speed 9 that would be more US, but nothing seems too appealing for now.

Anyway, thanks for your reply, it helps me thinker about the bag and all. Fun stuff for sure.

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Originally Posted by ThrowaEnvy (Post 3840270)
My current mid setup is....

Uplink or two.

3 envy

Hahaha. I'd grab a uplink, reactor, hex. They are all fairly desirable, nothing will be a total replacement but it's a nice span between em.

The uplink has the glide of an axis and the control of a theory.

Hex is tangent kind of flight and body, but more of a axis replacement with good glide (but not quite as much) and a lower power requirement. If you used to boot it hard and get it powered up you will like the touch you get with the hex to range. It's a very straight disc though, on par but it doesn't cut the same extreme single angles.

Reactor turns easier than a vector but also holds straight better. It has a more reliable hookup but is less likely to turn and burn when you push it over as far. The vector does 5 degrees of anny before getting touchy, the reactor can shape a full spectrum of turn and always comes back to fade when you want. Depending on weight or if it's eclipse, it's a touch turnover mid or a straight pusher. Spans a huge range of shots in different weights. You will find it is between the axis and vector, kind of.

Not a huge fan of the paradox, it's good but touchy, im investing a lot of time in the uplink. It's the axis for a ten year older and 100' shorter me.


Kp0c 10-01-2022 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by strunk flugget (Post 3840104)
I'll pitch in here too. Prior to MVP releasing the updated mids I was throwing the Wasp/Buzzz/Meteor combo. Now I am using the Reactor/Hex/Uplink. I also carry the Pyro but I don't use it as much as the Reactors. In fairness, I didn't throw the matrix or axis much but I know the Matrix is still in production.

The reactor, if eclipse, is very stable, 5 5 0 2...but in fission or neutron it's 5 5 -0.5 1.5. A lot of times I am throwing it about 85% where I need something to stretch longer than the envy but have that reliable fade with no turn in flight. Full rip it can sometimes get a baby turn but I am finding out that at full rip I tend to hyzer the disc a bit so I don't always see the -0.5 of the Reactor or the Volt for that matter.

Maybe the os mid I'm looking for could be an eclipse Reactor then... I currently have the Hex, which I love, and a Neutron Reactor. They are both new though, so I'm not quite sure if the Neutron Reactor will differentiate itself enough from the Hex to warrant a slot. Time will tell (and Fall wind will probably help me figure it out as well!).

Monocacy 10-01-2022 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kp0c (Post 3841100)
. . . I must say the Neutron Hex is a really nice flyer.

Agreed, I love the Hex.

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Originally Posted by Kp0c (Post 3841100)
I didn't quite test the Matrix and Reactor enough though to figure out if they will complement the Hex or just be redundant.

This is where I am with the Neutron Hex and Neutron Reactor. There is a fair amount of overlap, but there are also things that each can do that the other cannot. I may be going back and forth for a while.

Perhaps Reactor in another plastic (Eclipse?) would differentiate better from the Hex.

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Originally Posted by Kp0c (Post 3841100)
I also bought two Insanity (159g and 17xg, both Plasma). . . . I've looked in the MVP network for a speed 9 that would be more US, but nothing seems too appealing for now.

Recent Fission Insanity runs have been sort of gummy and pretty understable, without the finishing fade of the Plasma Insanity. I have been happy with 150s Fission Insanity in my understable driver slot. Might want to give them a go.

ThrowaEnvy 10-01-2022 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kp0c (Post 3841100)
Interesting indeed, I see you quite like the Uplink :P. Does it hold up alright in a bit a wind?

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And now, I must say I'm quite intrigued with the Uplink! It's definitely on my next purchase list. I'm a LHBH dominent thrower, so turnovers are definitely important for my game, and I realize I don't quite have anything US in my current set up. The Uplink will probably be perfect for my US mid spot.

As for US fairway drivers (speed 6 to 9ish), I don't see anything in the MVP/Axiom lineup that I want. I love the Crave (bought a few with the Hex and they fly great) and I'm sure a beat up Crave will feel amazing, but in the meantime, I'd really love an US fairway that I can throw on a small hyzer and just have it flip a little bit past flat and just drift the whole flight. I'm eying the Streamline Ascend for that. I'm gonna search the forum for other's experience with it, hopefully it's positive. I can get the Crave to drift for quite a bit on a flat release, but I have to juice it a little, and it still has a bit of fight at the end. I'm hoping the ascend allows me to finesse it a little bit and still get some nice anhyzer lines.
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I really like my 180g soft uplink, holds up well in the wind, within reason :D it hasn't let me down but it hasn't started blowing too hard yet. Been pleasantly surprised with the extra stability of the lightweight soft neutrons. I see you like stuff light. The soft neutron is the more stable uplink. If I was ranking my bag of em my 177 neutron's are the least stable, then 166 soft, then its twin with more dome, then the 180g soft.

The relay is still a good disc for that speed 6 slot, hyzer flip to straight, it will become redundant when your crave breaks in more but it will also be beat in further too.. The 155's throw nice.

Your insanity's will break in, I had a plasma I wasn't thrilled by, worked it for about three months then it was getting there but then I lost it. Haha. Monocacy is the insanity guy... I threw some CN 155's last season, beefy!

strunk flugget 10-01-2022 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kp0c (Post 3841102)
Maybe the os mid I'm looking for could be an eclipse Reactor then... I currently have the Hex, which I love, and a Neutron Reactor. They are both new though, so I'm not quite sure if the Neutron Reactor will differentiate itself enough from the Hex to warrant a slot. Time will tell (and Fall wind will probably help me figure it out as well!).

Right now my max weight neutron hex and fission reactor have very similar HSS and the reactor is just a bit more LSS. Reactor/Uplink is my current set up. Otherwise itís pyro/hex. But Iím considering picking up a resistor or kaxe which may offer more coverage and eliminate the pyro

Kp0c 10-01-2022 11:07 PM

Iím glad you mentioned hss and lss of the hex and reactor! Iíd say my limited throwing with both those discs (lhbh) goes in the same direction.
However, I played a quick nine from the shorts today with the purpose of improving my forehand. Every throws except for putts were lhfh. And I must say my neutron Reactor was so much easier to throw then the hex. The hss or oat resistance was much better. I felt like I could give it a good rip and it would just stay mostly straight then gently hyzer at the end. Nearly ace twice on 240ft shots.

While I was thinking the Reactor was redundant with the Hex, I think itís ability to handle my less than perfect fh form makes for a good argument to keep it in the bag. In fact, you might be correct when saying Reactor/uplink or Pyro/hex are duos that make more sense.

What about you, do you forehand your mids and how do they perform?

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Originally Posted by strunk flugget (Post 3841117)
Right now my max weight neutron hex and fission reactor have very similar HSS and the reactor is just a bit more LSS. Reactor/Uplink is my current set up. Otherwise itís pyro/hex. But Iím considering picking up a resistor or kaxe which may offer more coverage and eliminate the pyro


Kp0c 10-01-2022 11:16 PM

Sweet, new discs are fun, hope you like it.
As for the Sarah Hokom Neutron Crave, I bought 2, along a regular run proton, and I noticed the plh on both my SH signature is higher than on the Proton one. It could be sample variation, or maybe the Sarah Hokom has just a bit more meat on it, which would make it an even better candidate for your forehand!

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Originally Posted by mas30066 (Post 3840316)
I did succumb and order a Fission Hex. Hoping itíll function as a sort of long Proxy and just keep going.

Separately, I was marveling again the other day at the Crave as a Hokom sig disc. Itís not intuitive as a (checks notes) FH option.


Jacobpaul81 10-02-2022 12:18 AM

Picked up a few Fission Waves to try out for a Flippy disc to pair with my Proton Waves. Considering trying the Zenith for a wind driver. Anyone tried the Neutron Zenith vs. Proton Wave.

Muiriddin 10-02-2022 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kp0c (Post 3841100)
Interesting indeed, I see you quite like the Uplink :P. Does it hold up alright in a bit a wind?

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I'd really love an US fairway that I can throw on a small hyzer and just have it flip a little bit past flat and just drift the whole flight. I'm eying the Streamline Ascend for that.

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I've looked in the MVP network for a speed 9 that would be more US, but nothing seems too appealing for now.

Anyway, thanks for your reply, it helps me thinker about the bag and all. Fun stuff for sure.

Uplink does better than I expected, even with a bit of headwind.

Ascend or Relay depending on how floppy you want sounds like a fit for your drift disc.

As for 9ís I currently roll Wrath, Inertia and then ImpulseÖ I have two impulse one in max weight and one at 167. The 167 is way flippier than max weight and the max weight one is my main no wind hyzer flip disc currently.


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