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walde 12-05-2018 08:40 AM

What's going on here? Any love for the Gazelle? Latest post in July 2017!!

I'm wondering about Star and Pro Gazelles in the pro shop. I've felt one Star Gazelle (yellow) and it was pretty domey. Are they all like this? How do they fly? I have no idea about the Pros, would be nice to hear about those as well.

Monkeypaws 12-05-2018 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by walde (Post 3386509)
What's going on here? Any love for the Gazelle? Latest post in July 2017!!

I'm wondering about Star and Pro Gazelles in the pro shop. I've felt one Star Gazelle (yellow) and it was pretty domey. Are they all like this? How do they fly? I have no idea about the Pros, would be nice to hear about those as well.

I've been curious about those as well - my old DX Gaz has gotten flippy on me.

mostlynorwegian 12-05-2018 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by walde (Post 3386509)
What's going on here? Any love for the Gazelle? Latest post in July 2017!!

I'm wondering about Star and Pro Gazelles in the pro shop. I've felt one Star Gazelle (yellow) and it was pretty domey. Are they all like this? How do they fly? I have no idea about the Pros, would be nice to hear about those as well.

I'm a huge fan of the Gazelle, and have it in pro, gstar and star plastics. I bag g-stars in 168 and 173 and a max weight star.
The Star is slightly more understable than either pro, or g-star, and behaves more like my beat in DX. The pro behaves like my sweet spot DX.
The G-stars I have are both fairly domey, and the star is kind of in between, and not nearly as firm as other star plastics.
I also have the pro plastic, and it is kind of in between the g star and star for stability and is the flattest of all of them.
The star and gstars are a lot more forgiving in ground play and will either skip or slide to a finish, and the pro plastic, which is really gummy, has a tendency to want to catch the ground and roll out to a finish.
If I need the turn away and not look where it lands because I know where it will predictability. My main choice is the g-star plastic.

smarkquart 12-05-2018 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by walde (Post 3386509)
What's going on here? Any love for the Gazelle? Latest post in July 2017!!

I'm wondering about Star and Pro Gazelles in the pro shop. I've felt one Star Gazelle (yellow) and it was pretty domey. Are they all like this? How do they fly? I have no idea about the Pros, would be nice to hear about those as well.


I cannot keep them in the bag, but I think that is mainly because I throw a mixed bag. My Truths and Verdicts are such long discs that they operate almost like shorter fairway drivers. That is exactly what a Gazelle is, a short but deadly accurate fairway driver. If anything, the Gazelle is almost a longer stable midrange. So, I have a ton of overlap. Still, I will not trade away my Star Gazelles.

As you noted, Stars have a more pronounced dome than DX or GStar, but of the three, I prefer the Star because of their truer stability compared to the other plastics. I never gelled with the GStar. I know the Gazelle is not known for its glide, but the GStar had even less glide than the DX or Star. The Champion Gazelle looks pretty, but was even more of a glideless hog.

If I would go with a more traditional midrange lineup, I would see a huge need for my style of throwing to have the Gazelle back in the bag. If anything, it pairs really well with the FD and TeeBird.

Then again, this is all predicated on my style of throwing, and I know several Gazelle throwers who abhor the Stars for their dome. Give it a try and then make a decision.

walde 12-05-2018 01:14 PM

Thanks for sharing! The Star Gazelle I felt was indeed pretty soft for Star plastic. I wish there were some firm ones that wouldn't be so domey but I guess it's a bit too much to ask for unless a top pro starts throwing them and they would make a new run. For that matter, are there any pros that bag the Gazelle? I can't recall anyone and I've watched quite a bit of tournament coverage over the years.
Same goes for G-star, they're usually a bit too soft for my liking but it would be nice to give one a try.

DX Gazelle was one of my first discs and I loved how straight it was for me for a while. Now I only throw DX in the winter when I don't want to lose my favourites in the snow. The Champ and Champ glow I have go in and out of the bag, swapping them between Teebirds and FDs. All three are great molds but Gazelles have more sentimental value for me.

walde 12-05-2018 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by smarkquart (Post 3386607)
I cannot keep them in the bag, but I think that is mainly because I throw a mixed bag. My Truths and Verdicts are such long discs that they operate almost like shorter fairway drivers. That is exactly what a Gazelle is, a short but deadly accurate fairway driver. If anything, the Gazelle is almost a longer stable midrange. So, I have a ton of overlap. Still, I will not trade away my Star Gazelles.

As you noted, Stars have a more pronounced dome than DX or GStar, but of the three, I prefer the Star because of their truer stability compared to the other plastics. I never gelled with the GStar. I know the Gazelle is not known for its glide, but the GStar had even less glide than the DX or Star. The Champion Gazelle looks pretty, but was even more of a glideless hog.

If I would go with a more traditional midrange lineup, I would see a huge need for my style of throwing to have the Gazelle back in the bag. If anything, it pairs really well with the FD and TeeBird.

Then again, this is all predicated on my style of throwing, and I know several Gazelle throwers who abhor the Stars for their dome. Give it a try and then make a decision.

Yap, Champs don't have much glide and are pretty stable, but they're very controllable and can handle some wind. I feel like it will take a lot of beating in before they get straight. The Champ glow I have is very straight though, with a tiny bit of drift. I really like it and it would be nice to find a replacement for that in case I lose it. Champ Leopards are pretty close in flight so that's one option. But it's not a Gazelle :p

smarkquart 12-05-2018 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by walde (Post 3386609)
Thanks for sharing! The Star Gazelle I felt was indeed pretty soft for Star plastic. I wish there were some firm ones that wouldn't be so domey but I guess it's a bit too much to ask for unless a top pro starts throwing them and they would make a new run. For that matter, are there any pros that bag the Gazelle? I can't recall anyone and I've watched quite a bit of tournament coverage over the years.
Same goes for G-star, they're usually a bit too soft for my liking but it would be nice to give one a try.

DX Gazelle was one of my first discs and I loved how straight it was for me for a while. Now I only throw DX in the winter when I don't want to lose my favourites in the snow. The Champ and Champ glow I have go in and out of the bag, swapping them between Teebirds and FDs. All three are great molds but Gazelles have more sentimental value for me.

The two reasons I think that most pros do not throw Gazelles are:

1) It is an older disc with not much love. Therefore, most top players who are new likely never experimented with one because it was not a top seller or produced in large enough quantities in premium plastic to be noticed. Look at older players, you may see a few here and there.

2) The Gazelle is a stable disc, but it is a one-line wonder, meaning that it will lock onto that line and hold it. It will hold an anhyzer almost all the way to the ground; same for hyzers or flat throws. It looks onto the line and holds it. However, because of its shortness, you often do not see those strict lines in open and long courses. The Gazelle is better suited for courses with more obstacles. However, since it only holds one line, heavily wooded courses with doglegs or multiple turns do not play well with Gazelles. The Eagle, near the same speed and distance, has more turn and more fade, making it better suited at flexing lines or getting around or through multiple obstacles. Likely the reason more top players picked the Eagle over the Gazelle.

ODRB 12-05-2018 01:50 PM

I'm going to have to slightly disagree about one-line wonders for two reasons:

1. Teebirds. Super popular. One angle one line. That is what they are for. And lots of Gazelles fly like slightly shorter Teebirds.
2. Then there are Gazelles that fly like mini-eagles. Flat 11x, for example. Some flip, some fade. Heck, there are opaque 10x with flatter tops and high PLH that fly these Eagle-esque lines too.

But yeah DX Gazelles and more recent glow champ Gazelles do indeed pop up and lock onto lines.

nrihan 12-05-2018 02:11 PM

My first 11x disc was a forest green KC Gazelle. Loved that thing.

Alexplz 12-05-2018 02:25 PM

ODRB sent me a couple of champ glow gazelles. Pretty domey, very stable. Make a decent OS bookend to a spectrum of leopards, or a stand in for a S/OS mid. I was hoping for a slower teebird, got a faster roc. Nothing wrong with that, but I will say there is a vast difference between a gazelle and a teebird, more so than just one unit of speed on the flight numbers might suggest - when they gave the gazelle a glide rating of 4, they really meant it.

I wonder what it would have been like to be playing when the teebird was released - I know the Cyclone sort of blazed that trail but I've never thrown or held one.


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