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RoDeO 10-21-2020 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RowingBoats (Post 3646584)
You are falling over the top, not bracing correctly. Brace more like a hockey stop on ice skates, then extend the lead knee.

I tried that, felt more balanced but still 0% rotation.

bsammons 10-21-2020 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RoDeO (Post 3646628)
I tried that, felt more balanced but still 0% rotation.

The spine isnít the center of rotation. The lead leg and brace is. Hip rotation isnít a goal, itís a product of proper bracing. Take a look at the picture I posted last night and how I described it a few minutes ago and it makes a lot of sense as to where the power comes from.

sidewinder22 10-21-2020 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RoDeO (Post 3646569)
https://youtu.be/TReQAwxCr7M

I was trying really hard to stop my lateral shift and get that rotation. Never happened. My next video will be me doing the same but trying to rotate somehow once I land on the front leg.

You aren't shifting in dynamic balance ground up. You are tipping over top down.
https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-21-2020/b561PA.gif
https://i.makeagif.com/media/6-30-2017/I9OAbj.gif

scooby snack 10-21-2020 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by navel (Post 3646514)
Someone correct me if I'm wrong please:

Because when the front heel goes down to brace, and the back heel goes up to deweight, the hips are automatically turned just enough to spin around the center of gravity. They are never supposed to be turned forcefully.

When a correct throw is being performed:
The brace will stop the front hip in place and even push back just a an inch or two. And the back hip will start turning around the center. It's a spring! Everything else will follow effortlessly.
This needs to happen after brace, or else there will be no spring effect. If you turn your hips forcefully before brace it translates to:
*Trying to jump on a trampoline by pushing the leg straight forcefully before you have even landed from your previous jump
*Trying to shoot an arrow on a bow by drawing it back and then push it forward as fast as you can.
*Trying to make a push up by rotating your forearms and upper arms around your elbows and shoulders. This even sound confusing typing it out.


For a beginner it may seem like if you just try to forcefully magnify how your body reacts to an athletic skill. Then it will be more powerful.
What really is powerful is using forces to your advantage. It's much more powerful to let the hips brace and spin around the short lever that is being created if you travel forward and brace hard with just a little offset.

Youíre not wrong, just adding my .02

Hips will automatically align to stance. Planting in a staggered stance causes the hips to re-align AS the weight shifts from the rear leg to the plant leg, and also when the rear foot comes off the ground.

Rodeo sees hip alignment, and tries to convince everyone that rotation of the hips is where power is developed.

Power from the hips comes from the hips firing laterally toward the target into the brace. Then rotation occurs in the hips and on the heel of the plant foot, to relieve stress on the shoulder, knee, and back.

RowingBoats 10-21-2020 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RoDeO (Post 3646628)
I tried that, felt more balanced but still 0% rotation.

Load your shoulders so there is something you can unwind with this momentum.

scooby snack 10-21-2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RoDeO (Post 3646569)
https://youtu.be/TReQAwxCr7M

I was trying really hard to stop my lateral shift and get that rotation. Never happened. My next video will be me doing the same but trying to rotate somehow once I land on the front leg.

I thought you were supposed to be a baseball coach? You canít even perform a simple athletic drill.

RoDeO 10-21-2020 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder22 (Post 3646634)
You aren't shifting in dynamic balance ground up. You are tipping over top down.
https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-21-2020/b561PA.gif
https://i.makeagif.com/media/6-30-2017/I9OAbj.gif

How come the guy in the top video isn't spinning around shifting side to side if lateral shifting is supposed to cause rotation?

RowingBoats 10-21-2020 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RoDeO (Post 3646643)
How come the guy in the top video isn't spinning around shifting side to side if lateral shifting is supposed to cause rotation?

It can only cause rotation if there is a lever ready to receive the momentum. Hockey players don't just begin spinning when they stop, do they? No one here has said that rotation magically happens from a lateral shift. People are saying that a lateral shift is the most powerful way to generate momentum to then transfer further up the kinetic chain of a disc swing.

sidewinder22 10-21-2020 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RoDeO (Post 3646643)
How come the guy in the top video isn't spinning around shifting side to side if lateral shifting is supposed to cause rotation?

Look at his rear knee turning in, indicating hip turn.

seedlings 10-21-2020 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder22 (Post 3646651)
Look at his rear knee turning in, indicating hip turn.

What you did there. I saw it.


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