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ctvguitarist 04-14-2018 10:45 PM

Pro Line and Champion Spider question
 
Hey so just curious if anyone knows anything about this, I bought a champion spider off eBay because I liked my friends pro Line spider that was clear and sort of tacky feeling. The champion spider I got was more like a lid with plastic that had very little give and was bulby. I threw it in a river recently and needed a new one so I ordered a blue one. This champion spider is older in appearance, flatter, and much tackier feeling and is almost exactly the same as my friends pro Line spider.

I was just curious if anyone knows the history behind this. Was it just chance? Did the pro line turn into the champion and I got an early one? Just was wondering about it, thanks.

JC17393 04-15-2018 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ctvguitarist (Post 3297508)
Hey so just curious if anyone knows anything about this, I bought a champion spider off eBay because I liked my friends pro Line spider that was clear and sort of tacky feeling. The champion spider I got was more like a lid with plastic that had very little give and was bulby. I threw it in a river recently and needed a new one so I ordered a blue one. This champion spider is older in appearance, flatter, and much tackier feeling and is almost exactly the same as my friends pro Line spider.

I was just curious if anyone knows the history behind this. Was it just chance? Did the pro line turn into the champion and I got an early one? Just was wondering about it, thanks.

The first runs of what we now know as Champion plastic were indeed labeled as Pro Line. This was somewhere around 2003, I believe. Firebirds, Valkyries, Beasts, Spiders...just a few of the molds run in Champion plastic that were stamped Pro line for a brief period.

Samples:
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...ps2a6d2d38.jpg
http://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.net...e4dc0c6c3b.jpg

kw83028 04-15-2018 10:12 AM

What JC said is 100% correct. It's definitely possible that the "Champion" labeled Spider that feels similar to your friend's Pro-Line, was produced near the same time frame, same plastic.

brutalbrutus 04-15-2018 11:10 AM

Yea that pearly champ plastic they used when the Orc first came out('04-'05?)...*insertDroolface* It was one of the first discs I fell in love with when I first started...





I still cant believe I tried to throw that shot over the lake... :doh:

ctvguitarist 04-15-2018 01:22 PM

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Thanks a bunch guys! It's cool to see my friend and I have an interesting history between us of Innova's plastic transitions. Definitely won't be throwing this near any water.

GripEnemy 04-15-2018 02:09 PM

Another indicator is that stamp says multi purpose. Those are all older than "mid range" Spiders.

Ed McGovern 04-15-2018 04:40 PM

Ok so if you all own spiders and I own several, if you havenít tried rolling them you should. Will roll dead straight then fall over, amazing shot

ctvguitarist 04-15-2018 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed McGovern (Post 3297731)
Ok so if you all own spiders and I own several, if you havenít tried rolling them you should. Will roll dead straight then fall over, amazing shot

Thanks for the idea, never thought to try it but I have a downhill hole at my home course that would be worth giving it a go on.

lines 04-15-2018 05:39 PM

If you can find one with the mini proto stamp do what ever you need to do to make it legally yours. Those are C.E. spiders and they feel even better than the prolines. I do bag a mini stamp and a proline and throw them for @ 80% of my mid shots off the tee. The 'multi-purose' champ spiders are a touch more over-stable and still have a nice gummy feel. The most recent runs seem too stiff and the feel is a bit slicker. I'll throw one in if the weather hits above 90 degrees.

Jay Dub 04-15-2018 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lines (Post 3297748)
If you can find one with the mini proto stamp do what ever you need to do to make it legally yours. Those are C.E. spiders and they feel even better than the prolines. I do bag a mini stamp and a proline and throw them for @ 80% of my mid shots off the tee. The 'multi-purose' champ spiders are a touch more over-stable and still have a nice gummy feel. The most recent runs seem too stiff and the feel is a bit slicker. I'll throw one in if the weather hits above 90 degrees.

:thmbup:
Like these. The stamp has worn off the blue one that's always in my main bag during the summer.


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