The Crave is one of my three favorite discs in my bag. I couldn't imagine not having at least 2 at all times.

I like board flat Neutrons with a high PLH. They start out like a broken in Teebird, very straight with a late, dependable fade and no turn. As they season the fade comes later, and eventually they get a little high speed turn.

I ended up ditching the Volt for a combo of Crave & Wrath. The Crave powers down better and the Wrath fights wind better.

One of the areas where the Crave really shines is medium range forehand shots. It's my go to when I want to flick from the tee and need a lower flying line than I can get with my mids but don't want the big fade & skip of a more aggressive driver.

I agree with you that Volts feel a little slower than PD's. I've had a little more luck with their consistency though. All my Neutrons, Protons and Eclipse have flown about the same TB style flight for me, with FR's and Plasmas showing a little high speed turn.

I have watermelon Crave, Proton Clash and Neutron Resistor on slow fairway slot, but Crave/Clash combo doesn't see many throws nowdays. Lift and Electron Volt have taken longer driving duties and Tangent, Matrix and Pilot handles shorter cases.

Should work with Crave/Clash on the field to see how they fly again, I also feel like I often mess up my grip/release point when I use them now (rarely).

what does everyone use for hyzerflip and turn over putter drives and approaches

ive tried beating up a electron ion back in the day to a clovertop and puddle top but it actually still was just straight

ive also tried a plaz theory but its crap unless its a longer mid distance drive

i used to use a dx pna aviar back in the day for this shot

Glad you asked buddy.. I'm pretty happy with the proton Spin, a Vertex is a close second.

Electron Pilot.

Light weight E Atom does well for me. I’m currently using a soft Swan there but could easily go Atom.

With your love if the Ion, I would go with the Spin. Even a square finger like myself can throw it.

I used it for a while, went back and forth with the it, the Voodoo and the Atom. Eventually I came to the conclusion that I did not like the shape and tallness of either the Spin or Voodoo and the Atom wasn't understable enough. I went back to the Pure for a while.

I have been putting with it in midgrade Tui for the last year and a few weeks ago decided to try it out in premium. I do believe it is staying in the bag. Envy for stable drives, Atomic Tui for hyzerflips or turning drives.

spin is absolute trash too tall and bulky and too easily guided by the wind

atom is a decent mold but i agree too stable for this slot

what is the tui most like this is the first ive ever heard of this mold

why do you go swan

is it like the mvp electron